Does anyone know where the chems get their drum rolls from. They sound so good so i assume they are sampled or recorded live but have no idea where they come from. Can't find any good sample packs.

If they are sequenced on a drum machine, does anyone have any tips on how to make them sound more live. Mine always sound so forced.

If anyone has any clue, i would be greatly appreciative if you share the knowledge.

They get them from drums

Dan - most of them are recorded by them and then sampled - take Horsepower for eg - I don't think anyone can make a roll sound like that unless there's a real drum involved (many in most cases).

JacksRevenge, on 27 June 2010 - 02:16 PM, said:

I think it's a sample. The same they used in the demo version of EBW5.
And most of their old beats are samples, either sampled from tracks or coming from sample packs.

I also have the same problem...

I've read Tom talk about their extensive drum recording process many times - I can't remember exactly where right now.
A lot our samples with great effects, but I'm sure a lot are recorded live n then worked upon. Saturate n Horsepower from recent times definitely sound recorded. A lot of Come with Us stuff also.

Actually, I think that all the drums from their big beat era were sampled. Block Rockin' Beats, Setting Sun...I'm pretty sure all those drims were sampled, and probably reworked thereafter.

We know that the beat of Song To The Siren was sampled on Meat Beat Manifesto's "God O.D".

Compare with chembros, my beats always lack of vitality...

Thanks for the reply guys.

Does anyone know any good sample cd's for drum rolls or songs that i can cut them out of? Feels like i've been searching for ages with no luck.

Dunno about sample cd's, but there's a few really good CD collections with loads of old 70s funk tracks famous for their breaks (one of them being the 'Ultimate Breaks and Beats' collection of 25 discs). It really is a matter of going through old funk tracks listening for sections that can inspire you to chop up and re-edit them to make something your own. I'm almost certain tho that for a while now they record a live drummer and then chop the recording to death to give it a more programmed n electronic feel (Let Forever Be for instance) instead of sampling old breaks.

3:51 into this...
http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

All it took was one track to make all those epic fills and as well as the main beat itself to Block Rockin' Beats.


If your curious as to what tracks the Chems have sampled over the years, here's a good place to look... http://www.whosample...cal%20Brothers/

Skey, on 28 June 2010 - 01:08 AM, said:

It's expensive, but it'll take some nice pre-amps, compressors, or guitar amps to get drums that sound big and beefy like that. that and/or a serious master mix.

Also of note (I found this after wandering around the whosampled link a bit) is this YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.c...hitmusicsingles
Lots of drum samples and potential drum samples there. Good luck producing!

Half the fun of finding great sample-able breaks and rolls is the discovery of new music on the way.

I have been listening to a lot of Sly stone, The Metres, Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock Commodores etc. etc. lately, and really enjoying them. not only that i find it fun to make mental notes every time i hear a break that i might be able to isolate, re-structure re-process and make it work in a new track.

the great thing with older funk and jazz records it the way they were recorded, not only do the drums of the 70's sound absolutely amazing to me (tape recorded, uncompressed etc.) but to make the most of the 8 track recorders the bands used to use, they would often track all the drums in the far left or right to save channel space. essentially turning 8 availible tracks into 16. ergo, it becomes increasingly likely that the drums will have many solo opportunities by themselves over in the left channel, without much competition.

go looking for new music, but the goal shouldn't be to find samples. it just comes when you start to really enjoy the msuic.

I think MLS8888 hit the nail on the head. Gonna go through those old funk records and see what i can find. Will keep you all posted on what i find.

dan123, on 28 June 2010 - 05:03 AM, said:

Try Silicon Beats:
http://www.siliconbeats.com/

Tons of quality free drum loops, plus you can order DVD's loaded with literally thousands of them.

Here's one, classic classic track, one of my all time favs... http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6Z66wVo7uNw 3.59 into this, really surprised the beats from this haven't been sampled as much as they should have.

Badge's post in this thread is essential, somebody sticky it asap!