Yo,



I'm trying to start making tunes on my computer, so far i have Cubase Sx, Reason/Rebirth, Battery, Kontact loads of synths a good sound card and a midi keyboard.



Can i make anything sounding decent with with this?



I'm hoping to make tech house/techno and maybe some chems inspired type stuff but it seems pretty complicated for now.

yes you can definitely create something decent with that setup. But remember: Loads of fancy hardware and software doesn't make good music on its own!



I know you're just starting out and probably don't want to or cannot budget buying real hardware (I'm betting that all that software is wavez). But hardware synth sound soooo much better than software. Reason is pretty ok, (I haven't fooled around with rebirth at all). I say this because I hear countless times of fruity loops syth that sound like crap because their programming is extremely simple and un imaginative and because When I switch from fooling with software synths to my 808 ex I'm amazed at how much better hardware is than software. I have heard some very high quality soft synths lately though (read in future music, the names escape me).



Good luck to you and really listen to music that you think is great. the key to good music is LAYERS. Most songs I hear produced by aspiring artists are ~3-5. If you go in and listen to a chem's songs with a Channel canceller you hear stuff that goes "subconciously" listened to when you play the real song.



Give us a taste of what you're doing. I'm always available to give constructive critism.

Cool,



I had an MC505 but i lent it to a friend and it got stolen - DOH!!



I can make up a song (well i know how to) on reason but im lost with Cubase SX, i'm gonna figure it out soon, someone told me id be best using reason within Cubase so im gonna try it that way. Yeah i like tunes with new sounds you notice everytime you hear them.



U should try rebirth. It makes some crazy acid sounds.

I've never used cubase before but I really think i should.



Disco I'm going to send you a pm

Now that doesnt mean all hardware is better sounding than all software. You just gotta pick and choose. FLs and Reason can both be used to produce quality tracks, you just gotta know how to use them. Like battle warrior said, the soft synths in FLs are crap, but thats where vsti's come in and replace them. I have cubase SX and you wont get anywhere the first time without a manual. And you friend is right. Use little loops and samples you create in Reason or FLs, export them as wav (or whatever you can export) and sequence them in cubase. It may seem like a waste of time but it makes the over all sound and ability to switch stuff around in the sequencer better than if you were to sequence it is FLs or Reason. Rebirth, I find is a great way to create acid lines or basslines. Dont touch the friggin drum sequencer in rebirth if you have Reason. I find reasons Dr.Rex drum slicer thingy works quite well. ReDrum also works well. I was told by a sound engineer to stay away from hardware as much as possible.

I don't know i think the hardware vs software thing is a bit pointless now what with soft synths like vanguard or the arturia synths even some of the freeware synths sound fat like triangle 2 and the polyiblit in particular and if a sound sounds thin you can always thicken it up with creative use of delay or chorus. And as for cubase sx once you get your head around it it's a great piece of software to use and rather than importing waves from reason into it why don't you just rewire it into cubase? Off topic i hope to be getting my upgrade to sx3 this month it's got some great new tools in it.....cant wait :)

seems decent to start with. most hardware made these days isnt too much of a step up from software because its all digital anyways. and when you have hardware (like me) you have other things to worry about.



you might want to consider getting some sort of midi fader box, doing everything with a mouse is a REAL hassle.

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I'm trying to start making tunes on my computer, so far i have Cubase Sx, Reason/Rebirth, Battery, Kontact loads of synths a good sound card and a midi keyboard.



Can i make anything sounding decent with with this?

No way. You still need Sonar, Orion, Logic (some pro tools too!), FLStudio, Buzzmachines, Soundforge, CoolEdit, every moog in existence, surround sound setup with studio quality monitors, racks of vintage gear, your own legion of sound engineers and a completely sound insulated bunker in a private tropical island to even begin. ;-)



Sorry if that's a bit hostile attitude but I'm assuming here that since you ask if these programs make any funny noises then you must not had the time to actually use them. You would be very well off with just Cubase, some synths and the keyboard (that has kept me busy for a couple of years). You will get really frustrated if you try to understand all of these programs in a one go. It's either that or you might use them without understanding them, which would lead you to loads of presets and no originality.



Please let us know if you come up with anything nice, there's a POST YOUR MUSIC HERE - thread somewhere gathering dust (since everybody is too lazy).



As for the hardware vs. software, Triangle II and PolyIblit are great examples but this one tops them on sound quality (or so they say) http://www.greenoak....stal/about.html . I'm hooked on vst.

Thx for the help,



So far....



Lol



Ok then ive managed to get reason to work with SX and everything seems ok but how do i record dr rex loops from reason to SX. If i hit the to track button then it doesn't record into a midi track in cubase and I cannot isolate it.



Im trying not to use to many programs at once soundertow, I think reason and cubase will suffice for now, maybe battery for some crazy drums.



A degree in physics would help for this stuff man.

"A degree in physics would help for this stuff man."-Discobiscuit



Thats actually not as daft as you might think knowing things like 1ms of delay = 1ft of square space can be helpful in placing your sounds into a virtual space, you know back to front perspective is just as important as left to right. if i could i would like to recommend a great book for dance music production called the dance music manual by Rick Snoman, heres the link

http://www.amazon.co...1452219-7757219



Soundertow yeah i got crystal it's fairly similar to ni's absynth dont you think, great for evolving pads and fx sounds :)