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New Chems Tonight On Radio 1 !
#81
Posted 21 October 2014 - 8:30 PM
I don't like the poppy vocal, no psychedelia.
The trap/edm backing track just isn't my cup of tea. Ok the growly synth at the start is alright, but the rest just feels really .... Meh.
Think someone above said it could be a skrillex tune. Says it all really.
Pleased the stuff they have been playing out doesn't sound like this.
Sorry guys, don't mean to hate but this doesn't feel like the chems I know and love.
#82
Posted 21 October 2014 - 9:43 PM
The vocals, though, except for Lorde's, are super-meh. The good thing about this song, however, is the utter destruction of the usual-pop-soft-song-intrumental-structre a track of this type would usually get when not produced by the chems. The synth is good and it's recoginzable as a Chems instrumental (e.g. the Scale-like arpeggio).
I'm not a fan of that beat, though, that Whitenoise described as [put it in here, I've forgotten the name of that frigging genre and am glad I missed out on that anyway] and the vocals definately ruin what's left of it. An instrumental might save it to some extent.
#83
Posted 21 October 2014 - 9:54 PM
Ben_j, on 21 October 2014 - 2:00 PM, said:
http://www.deezer.com/album/8933353
Can't find it on Spotify How did you find it?
I think it's OK. Synths are cool, instrumental would be nice. It's cool to hear new CB material.
With Lorde doing the curatorial does that mean she selected the Chemical Brothers to contribute on the soundtrack? I think it will be a soundtrack only track, a bit like Keep my composure (although that resurfaced on the brotherhood compilation).
P.S. did Galaxy Bounce start as album track (Come with us) or was it written for the soundtrack for Tomb raider (and later resurfaced on the singles '93-'03 compilation)
#85
Posted 21 October 2014 - 10:21 PM
#87
Posted 21 October 2014 - 11:00 PM
Csar, on 21 October 2014 - 4:43 PM, said:
The vocals, though, except for Lorde's, are super-meh. The good thing about this song, however, is the utter destruction of the usual-pop-soft-song-intrumental-structre a track of this type would usually get when not produced by the chems. The synth is good and it's recoginzable as a Chems instrumental (e.g. the Scale-like arpeggio).
I'm not a fan of that beat, though, that Whitenoise described as [put it in here, I've forgotten the name of that frigging genre and am glad I missed out on that anyway] and the vocals definately ruin what's left of it. An instrumental might save it to some extent.
It's trap, it's a broad term for the "sound" of most modern rap, and don't worry about it. 90% of the genre is 90 times less subtle than This Is Not A Game, and that's saying something. Doesn't matter though. I'm not a fan of the Chems because of the genre they write in, I'm a fan because I love their musicianship period, in whatever style of music they're working in or going for. I mean, you couldn't count the number of genres they've written in on both your hands. And now they did trap, which it doesn't offend me in the slightest, because it's The Chems, and whatever magic it is they're bringing to the mix is what I love about it, the subtleties to the extremities. Even what they manage to do with the vocals (primarily what's going on in the background) is really enjoyable. I'm not attacking you or anything for not liking it in spite of all that, and I'm not saying it's their best track ever either, it could be a lot better. But IMO it's still great.
Speaking of subtleties, I'm loving that wonky off kilter sort of violin sound that comes in during the pre-"chorus" bits. It's almost certainly synthesized and it sounds beautiful, but somewhere inside there's just this beaten rusty dark-side to it, like it's been through a war.
TINAG feels a lot like a "let's see how much we can get away with considering we also have to impress film executives who are trying to impress teenagers". There's a fair amount of insanity to it, but a very careful and calculated safe amount, it doesn't go too far (I can think of more than a few ways this could be weirder and it would be better for it). It makes me wonder if the Chems made any rougher/less pop mixes of the track that were rejected. Or if the execs ever said "blah... hey let's send Miguel over to croon and yell semi-syncopated words over this experimental mess, that'll make it sexier". The funny thing is if you look at the comment section of YouTube, it's either fans who love it and are okay-to-upset with the vocals, teenagers complaining about it being "rap", or old woodwork fans saying it's the worst thing ever. To make a horrible analogy, Miguel's presence on this track is like bad air freshener: it doesn't take away the nasty Chemical smell, it's just sitting on top and now it smells like both, to the displeasure of quite a few!
#88
Posted 22 October 2014 - 5:17 AM
Yes, there's things that are true. They included almost every style of music into their songs, they experimented with genres in a way that revolutionize the way we listen electronic music, masterful compositions, they introduced us a form of experimental psychedelia sounds like never before, and they still innovating and refreshing their sound with every release they make. But c'mon guys, the fans can't be blind, the fanaticism it is not a good thing my friends, it's make us think and see very good aspects on every time and we need to be objectives from time to time (and this is a fan speaking, someone who's been listening from the beginning of the chemicals). It is clearly that they took a erroneous path with this song, even if they thrown sound elements that identified them as The Chem Bros, TINAG diverge from every aspect that makes the Chemicals unique.
The rework of a style like hip hop trap it is not a bad thing, it is totally acceptable into the production of electronic like any other genre style, but the way they have put together the structure of the song (that is including the beat, melody, vocals, etc.) it is not suitable to the minds that created many of the complex tunes we've heard in the past. I'm not saying that the chem bros should go back and rehash some old ideas and make the same thing all over again, all i'm saying is that they are capable of doing better. IMO, this is not a good song, by releasing this song they can be forced to enter in a market that restrict ideas, skills that could be used in a better form. it's a shame indeed, but at the end, is a subjective matter, some people will like it and some people won't, just remember that some things should be done in the right way. My opinion: I don't like this song (maybe a instrumental version should get it right).
#93
Posted 22 October 2014 - 8:55 AM
Biff, on 22 October 2014 - 7:17 AM, said:
When Golden Path came out, a lot of people really didn't like it here. I loved it, that's why it was so frustraiting
Amazing. I always assumed that it 'clicked' for everyone as it did for me.
Next time you need to defend Golden Path, let me know
#94
Posted 22 October 2014 - 9:28 AM
Nekcore, on 22 October 2014 - 7:17 AM, said:
Yes, there's things that are true. They included almost every style of music into their songs, they experimented with genres in a way that revolutionize the way we listen electronic music, masterful compositions, they introduced us a form of experimental psychedelia sounds like never before, and they still innovating and refreshing their sound with every release they make. But c'mon guys, the fans can't be blind, the fanaticism it is not a good thing my friends, it's make us think and see very good aspects on every time and we need to be objectives from time to time (and this is a fan speaking, someone who's been listening from the beginning of the chemicals). It is clearly that they took a erroneous path with this song, even if they thrown sound elements that identified them as The Chem Bros, TINAG diverge from every aspect that makes the Chemicals unique.
The rework of a style like hip hop trap it is not a bad thing, it is totally acceptable into the production of electronic like any other genre style, but the way they have put together the structure of the song (that is including the beat, melody, vocals, etc.) it is not suitable to the minds that created many of the complex tunes we've heard in the past. I'm not saying that the chem bros should go back and rehash some old ideas and make the same thing all over again, all i'm saying is that they are capable of doing better. IMO, this is not a good song, by releasing this song they can be forced to enter in a market that restrict ideas, skills that could be used in a better form. it's a shame indeed, but at the end, is a subjective matter, some people will like it and some people won't, just remember that some things should be done in the right way. My opinion: I don't like this song (maybe a instrumental version should get it right).
You are not beeing objetive as long as you don't keep in my that the track has been produced for Hunger Games. What would you expect? Another psychedelic madness? Just no.
#95
Posted 22 October 2014 - 12:23 PM
WhiteNoise, on 22 October 2014 - 1:00 AM, said:
Speaking of subtleties, I'm loving that wonky off kilter sort of violin sound that comes in during the pre-"chorus" bits. It's almost certainly synthesized and it sounds beautiful, but somewhere inside there's just this beaten rusty dark-side to it, like it's been through a war.
TINAG feels a lot like a "let's see how much we can get away with considering we also have to impress film executives who are trying to impress teenagers". There's a fair amount of insanity to it, but a very careful and calculated safe amount, it doesn't go too far (I can think of more than a few ways this could be weirder and it would be better for it). It makes me wonder if the Chems made any rougher/less pop mixes of the track that were rejected. Or if the execs ever said "blah... hey let's send Miguel over to croon and yell semi-syncopated words over this experimental mess, that'll make it sexier". The funny thing is if you look at the comment section of YouTube, it's either fans who love it and are okay-to-upset with the vocals, teenagers complaining about it being "rap", or old woodwork fans saying it's the worst thing ever. To make a horrible analogy, Miguel's presence on this track is like bad air freshener: it doesn't take away the nasty Chemical smell, it's just sitting on top and now it smells like both, to the displeasure of quite a few!
Ah yeah, thanks, Trap it is!
I think you misunderstood my statement which had nothing to do with the Chems trying this or that genre. It's just that I don't really like these beats, or rather the flow thereof. It reminds me of those "latino" pop beat-machine type of songs (also Miguels vocals) - can't recall that genre right now - which I dislike very much - and no, I'm not a racist.
To be frank, there was a time I listen to the Chems because I mistakenly thought they "represented" a specific genre. I soon came to realize that this is absolute nonsense and have broaden my mind ever since. So I don't care either what kind of genre they're diving into (I don't even believe it's a category within their mindset when producing music, they just do what they like to do).
Reading on this website http://www.complex.c...me-miguel-lorde it appears Lorde picked a Chems track and invited that Miguel guy to "enhance" it or something, but we don't really know the genesis of it all, so it's pure speculation.
Anyways, I can't make myself believe either Tom or Ed would be satisfied with the final outcome of this song and actually like to listen to it themselves, given these ugly vocals, because I think it diminishes their track. I rather like to believe that this was just commissional work of some sort or, as the article above suggested, was driven by Lorde's (or other execs') influence.
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I do hope this wasn't the rationale behind this release, and actually, I doubt it. On Hanna (and with all their music of course) they've already showed that they don't give a damn what others might think of their style and came up with something unique in the movie score industry and delivered a true chems score gem that never conveys the feeling of compromise.
Anyways. since yesterday, the synthline has been stuck in my head - which is a good thing I guess. But please, get rid of that singing voice. It's annoying.
#97
Posted 22 October 2014 - 1:25 PM
Everyone needs to calm down, its one song and as we know won't be a guarantee of the album itself. If anything, it does remind me that could be on the hanna soundtrack too. Meaning you shouldn't think they adapted to a popular genre and evolved it on there own journey. Maybe also everyones forgetting how heavy and crazy the chems can be as well and some have gotten too old to deal with it ha.
I've bought it from i tunes so I can hear the other little sounds going on this little beast thats caused a stir.
#100
Posted 22 October 2014 - 3:27 PM
sandelic, on 22 October 2014 - 4:53 AM, said:
For that, it's great.
It's not for CB album. Stop panicking
I can't agree with this. Galaxy Bounce was made for Tomb Raider, arguably a teen movie, and that track was great. Also, we are used to quality and integrity from The Chemical Brothers and I don't think there is ever an excuse to "dumb it down". Citing a teen soundtrack doesn't mean we should enjoy an inferior track.
Some fans are going to like everything they do. I like most of what they do, but as I said before, this one is generic and disappointing.