Bit of a stupid question considering this is a chem bros forum, but who do you think is better overall chems or prodigy?



i think the chemical brothers are ace, just prodigy are better. what do you think?



prodigy and chems have toured together before and chems remixed prodigy's voodoo people bak in '94 and liam howlett featured chemical beats on the 'dirtchamber sessions' so they obviusly respect each other.



I think its time for a collaboration!

the chem`s are much better, anyway i really like the prodigy.

casino_royale Escribi�:

I think its time for a collaboration!

dont be silly. the whole idea of collaborating is to get something different to what you do. unless liam needs to kick start his faltering career and needs propping up with the kings of dance music production.

why do you think the chems are better?



Prodigy set the pace back in '94 when the created the hard-edged dance sound with 'music for the jilted generation' followed by the chems in with 'exit planet dust' in '95. Prodigy released 'firestarter', 'breathe' followed by 'dig your own hole'. Even when they toured together it was Prodigy headlining with support from The Chemical Brothers. I love the Chems tunes i just like Prodigy better because they created the sound before the Chems did and they do it better and there beats kick harder. I mean 'block rockin beats' is good, but 'breathe' is better, and 'hey boy hey girl' is ace!.. but 'smack my bitch up' wipes the floor with it.



Chems are good, Prodigy were always better.

sneakerbeater Escribi�:

casino_royale Escribi�:

I think its time for a collaboration!

the whole idea of collaborating is to get something different to what you do. unless liam needs to kick start his faltering career and needs propping up with the kings of dance music production.

let's not forget that Prodigy are above the Chems on this years festival bills, and Prodigy have had a far bigger tour than Chemical Brothers this year.



Im first to admit that AONO is abit weak in places, but it does have some strong tunes on there aswell. But its the same with PTB i think the new album is awfully weak in places.

It's hard to decide which's better. I like them both and in my opinion, I think they've got different styles so... But it's nice to read what other ppl think :)

totally dont agree chemical brothers have beenn a n influnece for so many electronic music artists. their music is by far superior.. e g when u compare push the button whuth allways ouytsenumbeder never out gunnedd there is not doubt who is the winner. liam howlett isa good but there is just no comparison. i belive tyhere uis no future fory the prodigy while the chemical brother c seem to be in ther prime. ptb i s a nother stepping stone for them. come wuth us, was a bit of a lety down except fopr star guitar which is one the best rtracks they have ever done. however ptb is potentially one of the best albums they have created.





long live the brothers.



prodigy good but thyyey are comparison for ed and tom

haha i mena no comparison

as far as i know the new prodigy album is well on its way already, i just think chems were always one step behind and push the button is abit crap!.. likewise always outnumbered isnt great either.



but yeah id like to see a prodigy vs chemical brothers treack

Chems by far. I love the prodigy though, just think the Chems are much better.



For one thing, you say the Prodigy created "the sound" before the Chems. That doesn't really fit becasue both groups have two very different sounds. I happen to think Prodigy's sound, even though it isn;t done this way, sounds very "cut and paste". Instead of sounds flowing and meshing together like the Chem;s, it is all stacked and arranged on top of each other or just in patterens. Guitar sound guitar sound guitar sound, bass boom bass boom bass boom, synth stab synth stab, back to guitar sound. The craftmanship just isn't on the same level as the CB's. Liam's songs still sound great though. He knows how to structure a dance sound that is for sure.



and then we have the following factors



1.) What is your favorite slow Prodigy song?



2.) What is your favorite remix that the Prodigy has done for another artist?







My point has to do with range. While the Prodigy makes damn good hard hitting dance tunes, they don't make the classic slow tunes that can melt your brain. The Chemical Brother's do. Tell me a Prodigy song that can compare to Alive Alone, Chico's Groove, The State Were In, Hold Tight lLondon, etc..

Even when you think about the faster, higher BPM tracks, the chems still have much more range and variety. Go from It Doesn't Matter to Belive or from Hay Boy Hey Girl, to Star Guitar. Prodigy just doesn't have that.

...and about the remixes. The Chems have tons of badass remixes that they have done for other artists that are still fresh sounding years later.Think about the remix of Swastika Eyes and the remix of Bottleneck Stomp. I don't know of a Prodigy remix that can compare to those two remixes alone....forget about all the other Checmical remixes.





see what I mean?

Mate whoever does something first doesn't make them better. I don't see the Chems following in Liam's footsteps at all. Both are influenced by the rave/techno movement somewhat, and have roots in old hiphop. They respected the Prodigy like anyone else at the time, just like the Prodigy respected the Chems (and even got them to do a remix of Voodoo people for them. Keith even vounteered to dance at one of the Chems gigs cause he liked them so much)... But they are completely different groups, with completely different styles. The Prodigy are more industrial punk dance, whereas the Chems are psychedelic big beat style dance. It all comes down to what style you prefer more.



If you want to play the "who does more faster is better game", the Chems have more remixes, singles and albums in a shorter amount of time, have a much wider range of styles and have done remixes for some of the biggest names in music. And they still haven't sold out and done big plugs of Reason or Korg synths whenever they can. IMO Chems have a much more intense and moving live show than the Prodigy could ever think about putting on. And yes, I've seen them both play live recently. Oh, and don't forget how Push The Button has actually been really well received by most people, whereas people are still going on about how crap AONO is. I don't care if he's making a new album at the moment, AONO is mindless crap. The Chems have matured, whereas the Prodigy just seem like tryhards now.

well its all personal opinion init!! why do i think the chems are better?? why do i spend so much time here??? i think they are infinately better!!!



yeah yeah yeah. the prodigy have had their moments. they started their career at the right time in the right place. growing up in the rave scene in the uk. i dont deny that 'music for the jilted generation' was a phenominal album or that liam is a very talented person. but i find the prodigy the band is not totally about the music. its also about trying to shock people and creating an image. they are a pantomie band to me. its just an entertaing act. where as the chems are purely focused on their music. i found 'fat of the land' to be an album more about being controversial and over doing the 'look how we rock!!!'. i though AONO was a poor album. it seemed to me that liam was headfucked by everything that he had been done before. it was a back to basics kinda album, but it didn't work for me. its just to noisy, not a complete sounding album.



what i love about the chems is they are fully imersed in what they do. look at their work rate, they churn out the albums pretty quickly but yet they are full of ideas and always sound fresh. i love the fact that when they are in the studio recording i can still go out to a club and hear them dj as part of their research and development for what they are recording. and when you listen to a chemical brothers album your getting an album that is complete package. an album that flows with peaks and troughs. a band who like to collaborate with many people to make their sound wider and far more intresting than limiting themselves to what they can individually do.



the prodigy helped the chems in the early days and gave them support slots, yeah respect. but look at what each band has achived from 97 onwards. there is no doubt who is the greater band. on a light hearted note, i think liam knew how strong the competion was in 95. after all didn't he send keith to pull the power of the chemical brothers live show when he danced on stage at their london's astoria gig. sabotage me thinks!!

nice one afro, and soupy you always talk a lot of sence on here (i'm thinking your left righ threads!!). thats the thing about the chemical brothers they have true diversity. thats what attracts me to their music!!!!



as for influence. no way were the chems influence majorly on the prod, far from it. they are far to opened minded for that!!! their influences are drawn from every where. 60's 70's, funk, hip hop, rock, indie, weird experimental electro music, you name it. its a fuckin melting pot of sounds that influence the chemical brothers sound!!!!!

Ditto what everyone in favor of the Chems said. Agreed on all points.



I'd like to expand on something that thesouphead already stated so elquently - Those songs that make your brain melt, and how they can work their way into the arrangement of a Chemical Brothers record.

To me the Chems' records feel more conceptual to me, like they obviously spent some time working on how the songs were to be arranged so in the end, you have one cohesive piece of music that's the sum of all its parts. Those peaks and valleys, those highs and lows, those foot stompin bangin tracks that are like an aural assault and then... when you don't think you can take anymore, you're given some breathing space with a slower, more melodic and psychadelic soundscape. Each Chemical record is a journey, to me.



No respect to the Prodigy, but I am not taken on a journey with them like I am the Chems. Then again, I don't think that's the Prodigy's style anyway. So no harm, no foul. It's all what you prefer.



I have enjoyed Prodigy very much in the past - good driving music, fun stuff to hear in a club. Their records do have some level of consistency in terms of song arrangement, and with AONO, perhaps it's too consistant. In a bombastic migraine inducing way that left me exhausted by the end. Maybe I'm just old ;) but that's not what I want out of a record. I can respect and understand what the Prodigy do and want to achieve. But simply put their style is one that I don't prefer over what I've found in the Chemical Brothers music. The Prodigy have yet to affect me on the same level that the Chems have. At the end of the day it's a matter of preference...



And that's why I spend so much goddamn fucking time here!!! ;)

Yikes!!! I meant to say,



"No DISrespect to the Prodigy..."



A horrible typo gone awry!

I agree with whirly, Prodigy is certainly good music, but not a single song of theirs inspires anywhere near the amount of emotion found in many chemical brothers songs.

A coupla years back the prodigy were my favorite (closely followed by the chemicals), but then i spent two weeks listening to nothing but the chems and i fell in love. And now i see the light, the chems are superiour and their music touches me in an unimaginable way

the prodigy were a joke ravey band i.e charlie says,everybody in the place!!then as liam himself said he heard the dust(chemical) brothers early singles-siren.chemical beats and his whole style changed.liam said in an interview that those early chem bros records showed him that you could rock hard at a more slow tempo...so tom and ed have influenced liam but can't really see it the other way round....chems have more emotional impact their albums are a trip ,prodigy is too one dimensional for me

well i think thats unanimous then!!

This comparison is difficult.... :o 8)

I like both of them,....but I love The Chemical Brothers !! :P