20 GB Network WALKMAN with HDD

ATRAC3plus and MP3 compatible

Sony 'G-sensor' technology protects your hard disk's content when dropped

Extremely long playback time of 30 hours with built-in battery

Large 7 line (1.5 inch) LCD with green backlight

SonicStage� 2.3 software for easy music management and unlimited transfers of your favourite tracks

Supports all popular digital audio compression formats: ATRAC / MP3 / WMA / WAV

Can store audio, video, and data files (Word, Powerpoint, ATRAC, MP3, JPEG, MPEG, etc)

Fast music and data transfer via Hi-Speed USB connection

Durable aluminum body

USB power charging

Supplied accessories: headphones, rechargeable battery, USB adaptor, USB cable, AC adaptor, carrying pouch, SonicStage� 2.3



One of the smallest, lightest and sexiest audio players yet and it is a Sony. Store all your songs in MP3 or high quality ATRAC format on the embedded 20 GB hard disk - all in a device no bigger than the palm of your hand. As this is a hard disk-integrated audio player, PC files and pictures can also be stored. Easy access from your PC and fast data transfer make the NW-HD3 the most versatile Network WALKMAN from its family



So this or an iPod?

It says it stores data as well as audio, I don't think the iPod can do that, does it?

i thought the mini ipods cant take data. the normal ipod definately can, bloody useful having a portable hard drive!!

mini ipod can take data











cunt

Stop with your terrible language!



30 mins battery life with the Sony HD3! that's rather impressive I think. The iPod battery life is up to 12 hrs.

ow mcuh they want for one ??

iPod: �208

Sony NW-HD3: �220

what advantages are appealing to you igg

got myself a philips jukebox yesterday for 180 euro holds the same as a mini ipod also has a FM RADIO also is a mass storage device. has battery life of 10hrs with charging of one. nice and now full of every chems song ever released and most of the mix albums. X-D

i got the 20gig phillips one, its great

Well EBW, battery life, storage, price and size.



lets break it down..

Battery Life

iPod: 12hrs

HD3: 30hrs



Storage

both 20GB's



Price

iPod: �208

Sony NW-HD3: �220



Size

iPod: W: 6.1 cm (2.4 inches) H: 10.4 cm (4.1 inches) D: 1.4 cm (0.57 inches)

HD3: (W x H x D mm): 90 X 62.1 X 14.8



Weight

iPod: 158g (5.6 oz)

HD3: 130 g

ah You wrote before that it had a batt life of 30 MINUTES and I was thinking. Now why the hell would any want something like that?



it seems like that sony has the edge over ipod in almost every category. and it's only 12 pounds more (which i think is well worth it for all the benefits). Read some reviews online that compare all of them and see what they have to say.[/b]

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I believe it's igg's picture of those sony's that's making this thread stretch so far.

chemd'up Escribi�:

i got the 20gig phillips one, its great

i got the 2gb one still lovely

:? -- the Sony is just so... incredibly ugly! Maybe it's just me...



Also, don't trust the battery life statement from either companies: The Sony one and the iPod will both give you around 8 hours life or less, especially in Iggy's case, as you refuse to listen to low-quality mp3s.

If I'm not mistaken, the Sony battery life quote is when listening to a continuous playlist of 64kbps files (and the iPod quote is done using 160kbps files, with playlist switching, etc). One must consider that you'll be using files probably at about 256 -320kbps (I'm guessing here) and that you likely won't listen to one playlist continuously without pausing, skipping, fast-forward, etc, or even switching playlists entirely.



Furthermore, and this is the point I always make, there is a reason the iPod is the best selling player, and this factor isn't easily compared with the sort of comparison posted; the iPod is the one that just works. And it feels right. You just plug it in, don't think about it, and it works. Browsing on the iPod is perfect, as the scroll wheel is designed for humans. Finally, it's the balance between all the features where the iPod wins out; everything comes together just wonderfully and there are little touches that do make a difference.









notes:

- the iPod was the first player allow the hard drive to contain data files; all iPods have this capability, mini or otherwise

- the iPod is cheaper...

- the damage prevention system (protects data in falls) was designed by Apple and they filed for a patent over a year ago

- Firewire is faster than USB

Damn it Glako, you had to come along with your logical reasoning just when I thought I had made a decision! :'(



When will they just start to make industry standard stuff, that way decisions wouldn't be so hard!

I know a hand full of people who recieved there iPod, and in the first week needed to send it off to china for repairs.

I also heard you can't change the battery in an iPod. When it starts to lose it's battery time, you have to send it back to apple so they can replace the battery at a charge.