Oh okay now i get it. Thanx Whirl!

irish fan Escribi�:

yeah you can get addicted to the stuff pretty easily. there banned in ireland

Not so much really, from what I've read. Roughly 1/3 who try it will really enjoy it, 1/3 will find it really uncomfortable and not try it again, and 1/3 won't mind it but won't like it enough to be bothered to do it again (or frequently at least).



Me, I like it, but the fact that chronic usage at large doses is shown to produce holes in the brain known as Olney's Lesions means it's a treat to be enjoyed only every once in a while.



Also, it's very important to make sure that you get syrups/pills with only Dextromethorphan (usually Dextromethorphan HBr) as the active ingredient. Formulations with acetaminophen (paracetamol/Tylenol) are very bad (potentially fatal) for your liver at very high doses, while large quantities of guaifenesin will make you puke your guts out. VERY VERY important you get Dextromethorphan alone.



Additionally, many cough syrup formulations now use sorbitol as a sugar substitute so the product can be used safely by diabetics. Sorbitol in large doses WILL give you brutal diarrhea. Nothing too unpleasant, but make sure you stay by a toilet.



Cheers!



(I just wrote my test and decided to take the whole day off, I think I'm going to cold extract some Tylenol #3's w/codeine and spend the afternoon in a hazy bubble since I don't have any greenery.)

Oh, yeah, don't do DXM without reading this page:



http://www.erowid.or...q/dxm_faq.shtml



It's a very well-organized, thorough FAQ on DXM. Don't necessarily take it as the bible, but it is well-researched and factually correct to the extent that I can determine.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

(I just wrote my test and decided to take the rest of the school day off, I think I'm going to cold extract some Tylenol #3's w/codeine and spend the afternoon in a hazy bubble since I don't have any greenery.)

D'oh! My dad is down to his last T#3, so I ran out to the store and bought some T#1's with codeine. I was a little nervous since you need to get them directly from the pharmacist, they usually ask a lot of questions and I'd never done it before.



But I'd cautiously probed my professors last year about what it's validly used for and when it would be better than non-narcotic options, so I just spun a little story about picking it up for my mom, who "is having dental problems and can't get in to see her dentist for a couple days". haha, anyone who knows me knows I'm a very smooth liar. I managed to put lots of concern into my voice and I was dressed respectably, as usual.



Ten seconds and $5 later I have 100 pills of T#1 w/codeine. The solution is currently in the freezer, crystallizing out the acetaminophen. Did 20 pills = 160 mg codeine. Should be pretty good. I've never done cold water extraction before, so I'm kinda excited. It's like a science experiment. Wish I'd picked up some diphenhydramine to potentiate it, but oh well. I did get a bottle of DXM on a whim, but it's only 250 mg. Will have to get another bottle in a week or so and go for a third plateau sess.



Will keep you all posted. Hopefully I will be somewhat awake by the time I have to work tonight. That's what ephedrine is for, I suppose.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

My eyebrows also shot up a bit when I heard the quantity of DXM. Most I've done is around 200-225 mg, I believe. Since I'm always alone when Robodosing I prefer to keep a little bit on the more conservative side of things and spice up with a joint or two. Produces a very enjoyable, collossally stoned feeling that is insightful, occasionally visual, and heavy, warm, and comfortable.



I would like to hit the third plateau, which I glimpsed for a bit a couple months back. I'd never felt a sensation like that before in my life, floating, like my soul was being pulled from my body through my head, and my body was stretching, walking on my tiptoes from the tension. Lasted like that for about 30 minutes before returning back to a more second plateuish heavy stone. Of course, that was also the day I got my EBW8/9 vinyl in the mail so had that on constant loop on the stereo too.

heh. I'm a bit of a moron.... I meant that I'd done about 200 mL, which actually works out to 600 mg DXM. Which should've put me on the verge of a 3rd plateau dose. Plus the two joints I smoked that afternoon, no wonder I was experiencing things a bit out of the ordinary.



And the bottle I bought today is 250 mL, not 250 mg, so that's 750 mg DXM. If I do the whole bottle at some point, that's about 10mg/kg, or well into the third plateau. Not today, thanks, but maybe in the future...



The part I bolded in my quote: it really doesn't due justice to the feeling I had at the time. It was pretty spectacular. I recommend working your way up to those doses, as I did, but it was worth getting there.

Hm...I dont feel like drinking loads of cough syrup to be honest.

I dunno if i want to start hallucinating u know! I once tripped out from too much mud ( well not too much but just a little bit much :P ) and altho it was a wicked experience , i think i have a fucked up conciousness or something.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

(I just wrote my test and decided to take the rest of the school day off, I think I'm going to cold extract some Tylenol #3's w/codeine and spend the afternoon in a hazy bubble since I don't have any greenery.)

D'oh! My dad is down to his last T#3, so I ran out to the store and bought some T#1's with codeine. I was a little nervous since you need to get them directly from the pharmacist, they usually ask a lot of questions and I'd never done it before.



But I'd cautiously probed my professors last year about what it's validly used for and when it would be better than non-narcotic options, so I just spun a little story about picking it up for my mom, who "is having dental problems and can't get in to see her dentist for a couple days". haha, anyone who knows me knows I'm a very smooth liar. I managed to put lots of concern into my voice and I was dressed respectably, as usual.



Ten seconds and $5 later I have 100 pills of T#1 w/codeine. The solution is currently in the freezer, crystallizing out the acetaminophen. Did 20 pills = 160 mg codeine. Should be pretty good. I've never done cold water extraction before, so I'm kinda excited. It's like a science experiment. Wish I'd picked up some diphenhydramine to potentiate it, but oh well. I did get a bottle of DXM on a whim, but it's only 250 mg. Will have to get another bottle in a week or so and go for a third plateau sess.



Will keep you all posted. Hopefully I will be somewhat awake by the time I have to work tonight. That's what ephedrine is for, I suppose.

Let me know how that works out...



Apperently, the best way to take it is anally.

Yeah Darkstar , U Nutty Professor!

I just finally got it down the hatch. Fuck, I spilled quite a bit, accidentally dumped my filters back into the solution at least three times, forcing me start again. Man, I think I'd be lucky if I got 2/3s the dose of codeine I was hoping for (and probably got more acetaminophen than I would like). I was so close to just dumping it out and considering it a lesson learned and make sure I have a better apparatus next time. Would've done so and pounded the bottle of Robo if I didn't have to work in five hours.



And that codeine solution is one of the grossest things I've ever put down my throat. I used far too much water when rinsing out the bowl, meaning I had two full glasses of solution to put down. Give me the sickly sweetness of cough syrup any day! (I actually don't have any problem putting down 200 mL of cough syrup. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.)



So, yeah, should be feeling it in about another 15 minutes I figure. Just sitting and chilling to the Trentemoller Essential Mix. I feel a very slight buzz in my scalp but I think that's more anticipation and the fact that it's freezing in here.



Definetly need to perfect my technique with the extraction. It definetly has promise and I will make it work a lot better next time. Need to go steal some laboratory grade filters from school again. Used coffee filters and they weren't that great. Can't remember where I left the last stack of like 30 of them I took last year from my biochem lab.



I also don't have a needleless syringe around here, as far as I know, 'stash, so we'll have to save the rectal injections for July. You can go first if you'd like. }:-) (I do plan on seeing if I can get a couple bottles through customs. Shouldn't be a problem and I'll just pull the ignorant "oh really, sir? I had no idea it was regulated like that. Yeah, sure just confiscate them. No prob." Oh yeah, and I'll be needing more ephedrine in a couple weeks, so I'll pick you up some.)



In the length of time it's taken to make this post, I can feel the codeine coming on a bit. So far it's just a bit of a slow, hazy feeling coming on. Slight, but definetly there. I doubt I'll get any real euphoria due to how much I spilled (not that much, but enough). I'm tempted to go pop a couple more just to top up.

Just took a booster dose of 6 more T#1's (=48 mg codeine). This extraction went very smoothly. Getting better. Feeling nice and comfy and relaxed right now, listening to the Trentemoller mix.



Looking forward to this boosting it up 'cause I am in a very happy and content place.

Really chilled and sedated. Would probably prefer to just be stoned though. Next time, higher dose, better extraction.

i love opiates.



I think I'd rather have vicodin than e.

Maybe I need more codeine, but other than the first thirty minutes, it was pretty mild, which it shouldn't have been since (excepting what I spilled, I took, uh, well over T#1's today). I took another 3 T#1s and a clonazepam about an hour ago and I feel pretty much normal. Getting stoned and taking two lorazepam before going to bed Saturday night was much more enjoyable.



I remember the euphoric glory of the Endocets (oxycodone) back in the fall and this was not even in the same ballpark. Hell, last time I tried T#3's, I had four of them and a bit of DXM and it was good only for about half an hour before fading back to sobriety.



I haven't done any E for about 4 1/2 months now. Don't miss it but will still probably do it at some point. No real hurry though. May not do it until July unless some literally falls into my lap. I like stimulants and psychedelics more than depressants, but I'd like to relive that euphoric opiate feeling again.

I like codeine. I like that woozy melty feeling. The only thing I don't like is the next day if you have to be up with things to do.



What's better is tussionex which is a hydrocodone suspension liquid - extended release. It's highly addictive and not many doctors prescibe it. I got real sick one time with asthmatic bronchitis and couldn't stop wheezing and coughing for nearly 8 hours straight before I went to the hospital- so the doctor prescribed me tussionex. It feels thick and gunky, almost like gell going down, but it doesn't really taste like anything. The relief was instantaneous. What was nice is that I was so glad not to be coughing I could actually relax, enjoy the buzz, cuddle up in my soft warm blankies and zone out to cartoons. X-D

I took quite a large amount of codeine plus some more codeine and then, oh yeah, a little more codeine. And a clonazepam. It was fun only for a very short while and then I didn't feel much different from normal. And then I went to work. I felt a little shaky the first little bit, but I think the clonazepam helped me find work not too bothersome. Really nice shift tonight at work.



Now I bought me an eighth on the way home (it's really nice that my dealer/friend is on the drive home). Time for some proper high. Mom just came down and busted me rolling a joint, gave me crap, now I'll go outside and smoke it in the garage next time she goes for a cigarette. Still so surreal. And this is a pretty damn huge joint. I get to sleep in a bit tomorrow and only have one class so tonight is a getting kerbaked one.

dude, can you at least TRY not to get busted? bwah

Apparently not. I have to smoke in the garage if I smoke at home, which means she has to know. I at least was going to roll the joint without her knowledge then break the news to her that I was going to get high. So, I chatted with her for about 20 minutes, told her I'd be back in a few minutes and went downstairs. About five seconds after I get my gear out, she's coming down the stairs. I managed to hide my stuff but she noticed that it "smells a bit skunky down here". I just grabbed my baggie and threw it to her. X-D Assured her that I wasn't smoking in the house (I'm actually not) and that I'd be heading to the garage in a few minutes.



So, yeah, we have really good convos while I get baked, then I come back downstairs and throw on a movie or listen to tunes. Last night, however, I was watching some sports highlights on the television upstairs. Next thing I know it's 5AM and my dad coming down to get ready for work wakes me up.... Oops. He doesn't yet know I'm still getting baked, so I just pulled the fell asleep on the couch excuse (which was true enough).



I'm having a great day so far. Got to sleep in without missing class, feel very refreshed and excellent, only one class which is now done, washed my car, and now I have an entire afternoon for movie, pizza, stoned. And tonight I'm actually seeing the ladyfriend. Yay me!

Woah@ Icannot see staight at all, haha my typing is bad noe..I'm cooked.

Saw the lady tonight. We ended up hanging out at one of her friend's apartment. Her friends are cool, good guys, thankfully. Smoked some hash with them and watched a lot of TV. Hopefully next time will get to spend some quality time with just her. As always, still don't know if this is going anywhere. But I spent no money and got high as hell off hash for free, so it was an alright night. Going outside for a cheeky J right now as a nightcap. Have to be up early tomorrow.

Buzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........