No shit

Metallica gig at Madrid in a few hours. Look how excited I am...

Not excited to see MetallicA live ?!

I have some bad news for you...

Saw them before and well... Sorry, but for me metal is the same thing over and over. But in Spain there´s A LOT of metalheadz, including my brother, so I´m obliged to go with him.

GuerraRelampago, on 14 June 2010 - 07:44 PM, said:

This is blasphemy. I must cut your head now.

Maboul59, on 15 June 2010 - 04:11 AM, said:

Hahaha, proceed!

Well, been last night at Metallica gig. Freezing cold, horrifying sound, thousands of heads before us...But also people on the verge of tears, and lighters at full power, and fireworks, and all the same stuff, the same old tricks... Before them, Motorhead. Very funny, very very fast execution of the tracks. It seems they wanted to pick up the check and get out as soon as possible .

Anyways, Lemmy made me remember my old Hawkwind CD ...

^^ I think I saw that fail on Tosh.0 once. I like how the guy appologizes to the woman after pantsing the guy.

GuerraRelampago, on 14 June 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

You do realize that for many metal fans, electonica is the same thing over and over.

WhiteNoise, on 15 June 2010 - 04:30 PM, said:

Yeah I know, but I don´t care .

But I mean, electronica as a label includes a wide display of styles and nuances. You can listen from Eric Prydz to Eno, DNB, techno, dubstep, I don´t know, a lot of different things. And artists like the Chems, whose music is a rich blend of diverse stuff. In electronic music, there´s always room for the surprise factor.

Honestly, I can´t see the differences between the different metal "sub-genres": my brother presented me Mastodon as a sort of second coming of Jesus Christ. When I heard them i thought it was the same old shit. The kind of feeling that I never get listening to Joy Orbison.

But it´s only my opinion.

If you can't make the difference between industrial metal, symphonic metal and thrash metal (obvious differences), I can't do anything for you.

By the way, there are some kindss of electronic music that even electronic music listeners describe as "the same thing all over and over again", which is also stupid. Hardcore for example. This style isn't very popular among most of the electronic music listeners.

Electronic music and metal share some similar qualities--both can take one tone or mood and push it to an extreme.

I associate metal with a lot of anger, some sadness, and generally with a huge expression of a emotion that resonated with me when I was a young teenager. After exhausting the emotions and getting what I needed out of the genre, I never found the music enjoyable to listen to again.

Electronic music, on the other hand, has stayed with me for fifteen years, and I don't see it leaving my life anytime soon. There is a sense of adventure and exploration with this genre, and I continually find myself impressed with what people end up doing with it.

What electronic music does best is take the child-like sense of bewilderment and awe and push that to an extreme. And I don't mean "child-like" in a negative sense; there is freedom in completely letting yourself go in those awesome peaks in electronic music, a feeling that I associate with the adventures I took as a child into an unknown backyard or neighborhood.

People get what they get out of music for their own reasons. An argument can be made for not being able to let go and move forward, but everyone moves forward at their own pace. And sometimes people don't allow themselves to move forward throughout their entire lifetime.

If Metallica and Megadeth work for you, go for the gusto. It just didn't work for me for very long because, well, I don't have all that much to be angry about...

Ben_j, on 15 June 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

Oh, and this is F*CKING hilarious.

MadPooter, on 16 June 2010 - 02:17 AM, said:

Yeah, I was almost rofling for real

Associating metal with anger is like associating electronic music with gayness. This is a stereotype.

But I totally get your point about the childish feeling of electronic music, this is the feeling I've always had with Chemical stuff and with 90's rave music.
I also understand what you mean with not being able to listen to a genre any more, cause it's the same for me with house music. When I started to listen to electronic music, I listened to a lot of house, but I can't listen to it any more now, cause I got fed up with that, and also cause I discovered a lot of marvelous stuff, like Goa trance, psychedelic speedcore or the Chemical Brothers (of course !), that house will never be able to equal.
On the opposite, I used to listen to a lot of rock and metal before I started to listen to electronic music, and I don't have any trouble to do that again.

But metal is a genre which is at least as wide as electronic music, you just can't sum metal up to MetallicA.

Maboul59, on 15 June 2010 - 06:16 PM, said:

...no, I listened to metal for three years. The associations I have are there for a reason, and I could offer a lot of different hard rock and metal tracks that are, indeed, based on anger. Take Pantera's "Fucking Hostile," for instance.

You can't take one example and apply it to everything else. The fact that some tracks are based on anger doesn't mean that every track is.
That's the reason why I compared it with the stereotype of electro gayness, cause some electro listeners are actually gay, but not all of them you know.

A topic close to my heart.
I got into music mostly through the 60-70s rock n roll route back in high school - expanded to hearing metal in college, and loved it - even today there are bands that i try and follow (Maiden, Stratovarius), but honestly I don't hear much of new metal bands anymore - they don't do much. I listen to a lot of new rock bands though (Bloc Party, Killers, Muse, Porcupine Tree, Phoenix, She Wants Revenge, etc.
I got into electronic music, first being exposed to Goa trance - dabbled in it for a about 6 months before I discovered big beat, n never looked back. Sadly most of my friends are still stuck with trance 10 yrs hence, and hence I'm back to being a loner as far as music choice goes. Well, whatever.

But I agree with Maboul - the stereotypes suck - metal's not all about anger, Maiden never was about anger for eg.
Also, the anger helps kids I think - its great if u can channel your frustrations and vent them with music - but I don't think that's what metal's about today - very interesting points raised by Sam Dunn's second film - History of Metal - where he covers the spread and popularity of metal in the third world (not traditional markets), and finds out it's not about anger or revolt at all.

The current lot of house music sounds virile to me (most) - that only means I don't connect with it.