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#5121 Darkstarexodus   User is offline

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 3:57 AM

whirlygirl Escribi�:

It's a good thing you've packed those things of your ex and boxed them away. I can see how going through all of that would result in pangs of sentimentality and emotion. I think since you've done well by given yourself time to step away from that situation and give yourself some time to heal (plus throwing yourself into studying and being social without holding back). Going through the final remains of something that once was is not easy, and seeing the photos from start to finish helps in closing that chapter.




I hadn't consciously left the stuff around, I just genuinely spend so little time in my room and do a cleanup job so infrequently that it was only a couple weeks ago that I noticed I had things still hanging on the wall from her. Of course, I also had a shelf of my bookcase dedicated to us, but I'd long since started using that to stash some of my intoxicants (I figured it was about as ironic a gesture as I could make. I get amused by small things.).



I only looked through a few pictures but I tried to see if I could still see what I saw at the beginning and I did. And I tried to see if it was still there at the end and it wasn't. It was reassuring.

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 1:08 PM

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So I�m playing a DJ set (DJ battle) on my campus (In the midle of the fucking CAMPUS!!) this friday, I'm getting very nervous, too much people :-| ,all DJ�s here only play trance so that�s pretty much what people knows here as electronic music and probably is what all the other 3 DJ�s are going to play, I�m not sure if people would like my combo of breaks,electro and acid.



I decided to open with EBW8 . 8)





TOO NERVOUS ARGH!!! :-D




MX! How'd it go mate?

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 2:20 PM

exams in a month doing my head in. only thing keeping me from insanity is the summer plans

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 6:42 PM

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Just finished my final piece for my second project in Art - Its about Guantanamo Bay and how its wrong etc.



No offense to all you Americans :-// :P



http://img393.images...nallargeob3.jpg




Hell man, I'm not offended in the slightest. Gitmo is one stain on the history of humankind that should not be forgotten. IMO as an artist, if you feel strongly about something that violates the fiber of your being then you should not feel the need to apologize bringing emotion like that into your art.



Nicely done - I like how Amnesty International is incorporated into the piece. Did you get to choose the subject matter, or was the assignment specifically on art/politics?




My teacher suggested Guantanamo. - I pursued the idea. I showed it to her today - she said she didnt like it cause it never went well with my preparation work - which is mainly around the bottom of the picture.



What I was thinking of was just doing some american flags to explain why its there, give it a reason why its in the final piece lighten the richness of the american flag then - bring on a stronger colour on my actual work because at the end of the day thats what is being assessed. Anyhow I was talking to someone last night they said the burning flag suggests violence. What do you think?



Anyhow its a good one for prep work - I need to make her happy :/

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 6:47 PM

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mX. Escribi�:

So I�m playing a DJ set (DJ battle) on my campus (In the midle of the fucking CAMPUS!!) this friday, I'm getting very nervous, too much people :-| ,all DJ�s here only play trance so that�s pretty much what people knows here as electronic music and probably is what all the other 3 DJ�s are going to play, I�m not sure if people would like my combo of breaks,electro and acid.



I decided to open with EBW8 . 8)





TOO NERVOUS ARGH!!! :-D




MX! How'd it go mate?




Yeah, I'm curious too how this one went!



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Foxy, I like the work. Keep it up.

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 8:32 PM

I've been on this forum for just over 2 years now. I'm proud. 8) X-D

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 8:34 PM

Yes, !!! is playing Winnipeg in May!!! I am stoked. Can't wait for this one. Tiny, intimate venue too. Same place I saw MSTRKRFT. Great stuff.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 2:48 AM

Foxboy Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Foxboy Escribi�:

Just finished my final piece for my second project in Art - Its about Guantanamo Bay and how its wrong etc.



No offense to all you Americans :-// :P



http://img393.images...nallargeob3.jpg




Hell man, I'm not offended in the slightest. Gitmo is one stain on the history of humankind that should not be forgotten. IMO as an artist, if you feel strongly about something that violates the fiber of your being then you should not feel the need to apologize bringing emotion like that into your art.



Nicely done - I like how Amnesty International is incorporated into the piece. Did you get to choose the subject matter, or was the assignment specifically on art/politics?




My teacher suggested Guantanamo. - I pursued the idea. I showed it to her today - she said she didnt like it cause it never went well with my preparation work - which is mainly around the bottom of the picture.



What I was thinking of was just doing some american flags to explain why its there, give it a reason why its in the final piece lighten the richness of the american flag then - bring on a stronger colour on my actual work because at the end of the day thats what is being assessed. Anyhow I was talking to someone last night they said the burning flag suggests violence. What do you think?



Anyhow its a good one for prep work - I need to make her happy :/




Welcome to art school, where the final product is all about making the instructor happy! :P



The burning flag can suggest a couple of things. When a flag is burned on the steps of the capitol building in Washington DC it is a sign of protest. When the American flag is burned on the streets of Baghdad, it is not only a sign of protest but a sign of hatred for everything the US stands for.



Either way - it's offensive and disrespectful to a lot of people no matter who is burning it and why it's being burned. The flag burning issue in the US is always met with criticism even though here it is protected as freedom of expression. When the flag is burned by angry mobs overseas, the issue becomes infuriating.



Now for the criticism (it's constructive, I promise)! While Gitmo is a stain on human history, it may not be necessary to use that catch phrase as a dominating force in your final piece because the message ends up being redundant. If you wish to continue to incorporate Amesty into your piece then there must be something within the art's message that reflects Amnesty's aims. So you may want to tone the negativity down and focus on what's been the aim of Amnesty Int'l since the beginning and that is "you can make a difference".



If you want to incorporate Amnesty International into your work, then it might be a good idea to look at the graphics Amnesty has used in the past. Their graphics are bold, high contrast, memorable. The candle with the barbed wire has beomce a universal symbol of human rights and the message is clear and the art is powerful and to the point. The message (the candle with the burning flame) is one of hope born from the confines of barbed wire that that surrounds it.



I can see your teacher's point - the American flag dominates your work too much and human rights - no matter what country is violating it - should transcend nations.



Most politically influenced modern art - even if it their aim is to gear up the war machine - the most memorable art imo is that which is high contrast, bold and stark, clear and to the point (see old soviet union propaganda art is a fantastic example of what I'm trying to get at). It's propaganda art which has one purpose only and that's to get people to stop and absorb what the message is saying. The artwork of Amnesty (even though they are a-political) is still propaganda afterall. You don't have to compromise your style because the bottom half of your work on that piece is very, very good. That should be the dominating force behind the piece. But it couldn't hurt if you sharpened things up, made things more high contrast and less sketchy. (squint your eyes and look at your drawing, it's a good trick to 'feel out' contrast). Instead of saying "a stain on human history" in your piece, bring in some bold red colors, show some stains on the bandages over the people's eyes. No need to go overboard, but use of color in strategic spots can create just as much if not more emotional impact on a poster than words can, sometimes.



If you want to make a political statement about how the US is fucking things up royally yet keep the spirit of Amnesty International, I'd say make the candle and barbed wire image more prominent in your piece somehow - ditch the burning flag and instead incorporate the flag design of stars and stripes into the barbed wire. And bring out those reds especially to drive the point of "stain on human history" home. Last of all if you want fire, don't forget to put some color on that flame.



Anyway - those are just some suggestions and I hope I don't come across as harsh or anything. I think you have a good foundation and the content you already have is strong, but if you want to wow your instructor you may have to revisit the drawing board. Sometimes less is more when putting a point across. I feel for you though - it's hard coming up with ideas and it's doubly hard putting those ideas on paper.



Crap. I've written a friggen novel.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 3:25 AM

Excellent - Im so fuckin stealing this Whirly - hope you don't mind. Its okay - I can take criticism and what you wrote made a lot of sense and is a really good idea - which I plan to use.



Thanks a lot - I really appreciate it, and like I always knew you'd give me a top band response as always like.



Cheers again.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 3:56 AM

Cool, Foxy! I really want to see how this turns out!!
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 6:49 AM

I've been away due to our company's acquisition of another, and getting the resultant product in or building.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 2:20 PM

What's with the location whirly? :(

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 3:04 PM

It's all good, mc marsh - it's a quote from Blade Runner (inspired by some ramblings on the board a little while back).
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 1:19 AM

I love that quote. I use it all the time.



wake up, time to buzz.



wake up, time to fuck.



wake up, time to sleep.



etc.



and the new one:

wake up, time to DINE IN HELL TONIGHT!

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 2:22 AM

Consumer Escribi�:





and the new one:

wake up, time to DINE IN HELL TONIGHT!




X-D




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Posted 16 March 2007 - 3:38 PM

:-D Muhahaha!



300 doesn't open here until April 5th though :(



So I signed up to myspace only to discover that there's a separate sign-up just for artists! doh! account deleted.



Try again tomorrow. :)

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 3:43 PM

what the bloody hell? type d e l e t e d and it becomes SPAM POSTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED?



Bwahahahah!



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Posted 16 March 2007 - 5:22 PM

Yo - Well for anyone who doesn't already know - I do Drama/Theatre Studies and well we've been working on this play which has been inspired/based on another play called 'Easy Stages', if any of you have read/seen it.

Anyway it is about an amateur stage crew with stereotypical characters [Stressed stage manager, Wannabe stage manager, Veteran old lady, Over the top dramatist, Camp/Gay guy, Preppy/dumb girl, and then my character Sleazy slick guy who loves himself], so yeah its an amateur stage crew who are really bad at their job and never get the stage movements right and always fuck up and this creates comedy[its a slapstick comedy]. There are a few relationships going on, Dave - me is trying to get it on with Phoebe[Preppy girl], and everyone hates daves for being so outright disgusting/creepy, the only one who finds this appealing is the gay guy.

The stage manager who no one likes and the wannabe is trying to steal her job.



Anyway we done a live performance today for about 100 people and it was kinda scary but we got such a good fuckin response, we - atleast I didn't think anyone would laugh, but it came to a point where we had to stop for the crowd to stop laughing cause we couldn't hear ourselves speaking.

They thought it was halerious but we had skipped alot of it out and it kinda of dipped in performance at times, - we didnt mean this obviously but atleast now we know what to do etc. But jeez i was so stoked people laughed and then afterwards everyone was saying what a great play it was and I was so chuffed! - Couple of juniors were asking for my autograph and all it was funny. X-D





My french teacher was there [And she hates me, thinks im a no good for nothing and I hope that changes my opinion of her even if we didnt skip shit!]



Anyhow just thought I'd let you guys know, I think we're going to record it.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 5:48 PM

I made a friend angry today...



My friend wants to go on a big roadtrip from South America to Canada. �'m not really up for that because , altho i love this person , i couldn't sit with her in a car for 2 months.



3 weeks was more than enough because she annoyed me and a roadtrip is a big thing , u need to go with people who u feel totally cool with.



Anyway i told her honestly that i can't go on a roadtrip with her because she annoyed me on the roadtrip before and we already talked about this annoying things.



Anyway she is really insulted now , and she wants to know what i find annoying. So i told her honestly that i think its annoying that she always thinks she knows everything better than everybody. A lot of times she does , she had a high education, but its the way she says those things. It's so fucking annoying when people find themselves so fucking smart.



Anyway , her answer was " Well , youre probably annoyed by me because i do know a lot of stuff and youre annoyed that u DON'T know it "



I'M SO PISSED OFF! Here is somebody ( Me ) Who knows i'm not fucking Einstein , who only did a low education and who loves to learn and accepts it when people know more than her. And this is somebody who KNOWS me telling me the reason why i am annoyed is because she knows all those things and i don't !!



Plus , she says that my irritations with her come because of my moodswings. True , i am one big moodswing , but for example , Mips has not annoyed me ONCE in that whole roadtrip.



And according to her i like to talk a LOT about myself and thats why its hard to to be around me. This is true , i like myself a lot , but nobody has ever said anything about that to me. According to her i always want to be the center off attention and when i'm on the phone with people they dont get a chance because i only talk about myself.



And now i get "The world does not revolve around you"

I dont want to be pissed off but i am !!!

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 6:40 PM

Aw, that's too bad, Jeans. These things usually heal with time and it's probably a good thing that the both of you got things out in the open.

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