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Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:03 PM

I think Autechre is an experiment which its results were to find out whether people would actually listen to random indrustrial type noises presented to them as a song. It seems people have been falling for the con that Autechre is actual music.



The only thing great about this 'band' is the artwork on their sleeves.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:11 PM

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:20 PM

^well there we have it people. A prime example of what i'm talking about. They have been told that this is the music to listen to, it's different, it's cool, so they listen, but not with their ears, but with their minds.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:28 PM

Arranged? I don't think so. Usually something arranged has an order. From what i've heard, it's quite random. It reminds me of an industrial area where people are hammering metal and dropping things.




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Posted 12 March 2004 - 1:32 AM

I'd actually call it laziness, not randomness.
He put on a turn-down collar, a black bow, and wore his Sunday tail-coat. As such, he looked spruce, and what his clothes would not do, his instinct for making the most of his good looks would.

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 11:55 PM

From an interview...



Autechre deplore such attempts to get a handle on them. As Sean Booth tells me when I meet up with them in East London, on the eve of their latest Warp album Draft 7.30, they believe their music is about evading all forms of "meaning", signification or representation - hence its oblique twists and turns and metamorphoses, its edgy, near pathological determination not to touch down where anyone has trodden before.



"We are absolutely not trying to represent or duplicate anything at all," declares Booth. "We're purely interested in being creative. I like to have space to wander around... I don't like to have to be tied to something. I like to be able to listen to something months later and have forgotten things. Which isn't easy when you build a track around a theme or idea, because that's the only thing people remember. I like not providing that basic template."



Autechre's approach is strictly antithetical to most popular music, which is essentially either nostalgic (be it retro-derivative, mischievously postmortem or sentimentally redolent of bygone summers) or it's written with one eye on 'classic radio' posterity, overeager to familiarise itself with you, become the stuff of future revivals, flecked with associations and connotations. Autechre, by contrast, make no such deposits in the memory bank. Their modus operandi is not unlike the theory of a purely 'non-associative' electronic music posited in the 1950s, except Autechre wriggle free even of that definition. There are actually allusions and references in their work - it's just that they're so obscure, only they and perhaps a couple of their mates get them.



Frank Zappa's old saw about writing about music being like "dancing about architecture" is among the most overrated quotes in the rock lexicon. However, Autechre, whose music is 'about' only itself, do present a particular problem. Even the garrulous Booth and Brown clam tip somewhat when the topic of their music arises. That's partly out of a reluctance to give away secrets, partly because it feels like a betrayal of its pristineness. Descriptive passages which, for example, compare abstract sounds to the noise of household objects, are helpful pointers, but hopelessly subjective. More useful are visual representations, like Alexander Rutterford's confounding yet meticulously exact computer-animated DVD transcription of their track "Gantz-Graf" (2002), which would almost certainly have made Wassily Kandinsky's head explode with rapture had he ever been able to see it.



http://www.deelan.co...re/wire-230.htm



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Posted 20 January 2007 - 5:01 PM





ok, download the video to Autechre: Gantz Graf :o



The director apparently created the idea from an LSD trip he had. Anyway, this video is amazing. Visually one of the best things i've ever seen.



Here's a youtube version of it, but I recommend you download the 200MB version of it from somewhere and watch it full screen.



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nfwD05XA2YQ



All assuming you haven't seen it before ;-) which you may have done.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 5:58 PM

Interesting . . . but, damn! Ouch, my ears . . . They've really made a long player?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 6:28 PM

Csar Escribi�:

Interesting . . . but, damn! Ouch, my ears . . . They've really made a long player?




Yes. More than one.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 6:32 PM

You know, I like this kind of "music". I really enjoyed listening to Venetian Snares "Rossz Csillag..." lately.

It may not have the harmony of a Radiohead album, but Caustic Window's "Compilation" for example, has a lot of emotion in it. It's just that the emotions are rage, fury and uneasyness. }:-)

And, Grantz Graf has one of the most interesting yet simple videos I've ever seen.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 6:47 PM

autechre is NOT like aphex twin, not at all.



autechre is way too boring to be aphex twin because all autechre feels way too intentional. it's saying the same thing over and over again "THIS IS DIFFERENT! THIS IS INTERESTING! C'MON MUSIC DOESN'T HAVE TO FLOW AND FOLLOW THE RULES!" you see, I hear Aphex Twin saying that the first time and then he does something that comes straight from within
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 6:51 PM

What a thread revival!



I like Autechre as I like Aphex Twin.

They have some great songs, but some other ones that I just skip.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 7:20 PM

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

autechre is NOT like aphex twin, not at all.



autechre is way too boring to be aphex twin because all autechre feels way too intentional. it's saying the same thing over and over again "THIS IS DIFFERENT! THIS IS INTERESTING! C'MON MUSIC DOESN'T HAVE TO FLOW AND FOLLOW THE RULES!" you see, I hear Aphex Twin saying that the first time and then he does something that comes straight from within




Well, yeah, that's exactly my problem with autechre, they sound generally the same in all albums. Because of that, they get boring very very quickly.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 8:48 PM

soundwarrior Escribi�:

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

autechre is NOT like aphex twin, not at all.



autechre is way too boring to be aphex twin because all autechre feels way too intentional. it's saying the same thing over and over again "THIS IS DIFFERENT! THIS IS INTERESTING! C'MON MUSIC DOESN'T HAVE TO FLOW AND FOLLOW THE RULES!" you see, I hear Aphex Twin saying that the first time and then he does something that comes straight from within




Well, yeah, that's exactly my problem with autechre, they sound generally the same in all albums. Because of that, they get boring very very quickly.




No.



This is music for intellectual beings. People who don't 'get it', clearly don't have the brain power to comprehend this music. People like you, for instance.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:50 PM

So you don't listen to them as well? X-D



Well, as for me this music is fine for commercials when things morphing or the like, as seen in ipunks video. But listening more than 1 hour to them would probably demage my ears. Not because it seems to be random. It's not. I could hear some snare-like emphasizings of the sounds that were intended, i guess. Rather it's the fact that it would bore me . . .
E(argasm) = m(usic) x c(hemicals)²

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 1:47 AM

I like that they're trying to genuinely do something different, but please don't ask me to sit down and listen to one of their albums from start to finish in one sitting!



It seems like they're more preoccupied with how the music is made rather than the end result. They don't care how to music makes you feel. It's a pure intellectual wank. Sometimes this can be interesting, sometimes I enjoy listening to a track purely to blow my mind with production techniques and glitchy sounds and go "holy shit, I didn't realise you could do THAT with sound, how did they do that??". But the 99.999% of the time that I listen to music I listen to it because I enjoy the way it makes me feel. Chemical Brothers do amazing things with their sounds, but what makes them amazing is how they actually affect you. Aphex Twin too, he does amazing things with sound that just twists your head inside out, but it's got feeling and emotion (however twisted) behind it too. Autechre just don't have anything behind their music IMO.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 5:47 AM

i haven't heard much from them, but what i have heard i've liked; i believe the e.p. that i've got on vinyl is the "basscad ep"; its good shit

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:32 AM

How's this for experiMENTAL!?



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Hw2CsBz_cKY



http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7eOYqR_Lz9w
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