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Is music journalism dead?
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#1
Posted 27 January 2005 - 7:06 PM
I'm so tempted to write to the NME and Q letters pages to tell them music journalism is dead.
They spent all this time telling people "dance is dead", they panned the Chems' new album... and still the great CD-buying public says screw you and buys it anyway. X-D
And I've just heard a trailer on the BBC using Galvanize, which is another sure sign that the Chems' music is very much alive and kicking.
In fact, maybe we should all write to those magazines and have a good gloat. X-D
They spent all this time telling people "dance is dead", they panned the Chems' new album... and still the great CD-buying public says screw you and buys it anyway. X-D
And I've just heard a trailer on the BBC using Galvanize, which is another sure sign that the Chems' music is very much alive and kicking.
In fact, maybe we should all write to those magazines and have a good gloat. X-D
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#3
Posted 27 January 2005 - 7:19 PM
Reviews aren't that important for established acts like the Chems, but they are very important for up-and-coming artists.
If the album really had been a stinker, I would have appreciated being warned. But when the reviews are as blatantly dishonest as these were, because the magazines have an agenda, then they deserve to have their noses rubbed in it.
If the album really had been a stinker, I would have appreciated being warned. But when the reviews are as blatantly dishonest as these were, because the magazines have an agenda, then they deserve to have their noses rubbed in it.
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#8
Posted 28 January 2005 - 9:42 AM
hey guys.. ive been kinda lurking a lot recently.. had to come out of my hole for this one though.
back in the days of CWU and surrender, this board was a little more reasonable. when there was a less than butt kissing review of the chems it was actually discussed. not just flamed. yes, the chems are musical genius, but critics are there to do just one thing. be critical. people used to discuss the supremety of TPPR without being castrated. and questioning the newest album wasnt neccesarily a bad thing.
no, I dont think dance music is dead. but even as a devote chems fan I am beggining to agree with some of these articles. The chems used to dictate where electronic music was going. but more and more their sound is edging towards pop: less complexity, less depth, less with the pychedelic awesomeness that is TPPR, IDM, elektrobank, or TSU.
sure the new record has a big sound, but its really not as complicated as past albums. listening to it, a lot of sounds are samples of previous records.
the chems are still wicked, but whats up with all of this cultishness?
back in the days of CWU and surrender, this board was a little more reasonable. when there was a less than butt kissing review of the chems it was actually discussed. not just flamed. yes, the chems are musical genius, but critics are there to do just one thing. be critical. people used to discuss the supremety of TPPR without being castrated. and questioning the newest album wasnt neccesarily a bad thing.
no, I dont think dance music is dead. but even as a devote chems fan I am beggining to agree with some of these articles. The chems used to dictate where electronic music was going. but more and more their sound is edging towards pop: less complexity, less depth, less with the pychedelic awesomeness that is TPPR, IDM, elektrobank, or TSU.
sure the new record has a big sound, but its really not as complicated as past albums. listening to it, a lot of sounds are samples of previous records.
the chems are still wicked, but whats up with all of this cultishness?
#9
Posted 28 January 2005 - 10:13 AM
Cat, it's nothing to do with cultishness, I'm not even a particularly huge Chems fan (I was more into Orbital and Underworld). However, PTB is an exceptionally good album and the negative reviews from magazines like Q and NME strike me as being very dishonest.
Those magazines have been pushing a "dance is dead" agenda for some time now, and they aren't prepared to let the fact that PTB is actually a good album get in the way of their story.
The problem for them is that people are listening for themselves and buying it anyway. :)
For the magazines in question, it may have dented their credibility somewhat. It's like when a child finds out its parents have been lying about Santa and the tooth fairy etc, it leaves them wondering what else they may have lied about.
Those magazines have been pushing a "dance is dead" agenda for some time now, and they aren't prepared to let the fact that PTB is actually a good album get in the way of their story.
The problem for them is that people are listening for themselves and buying it anyway. :)
For the magazines in question, it may have dented their credibility somewhat. It's like when a child finds out its parents have been lying about Santa and the tooth fairy etc, it leaves them wondering what else they may have lied about.
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#10
Posted 28 January 2005 - 5:31 PM
yea. at the same time, i dont want to defend music journalism. everything in it i have read thats not about particular artists is either "genre x is dead" or "subgroup genre y is the next big thing!(even though its a slight change in what has been played for years."
for example: recently a mag was talking about something called "dirty house" which they described as "whats hot" and "surely to be the next big thing!" what they didnt realise is that it was just dj's mixing old school acid and some less tightly produced tracks. HOW IS THIS ANYTHING NEW?!!!??!?!
another point: electronica? where did that word come from?
for example: recently a mag was talking about something called "dirty house" which they described as "whats hot" and "surely to be the next big thing!" what they didnt realise is that it was just dj's mixing old school acid and some less tightly produced tracks. HOW IS THIS ANYTHING NEW?!!!??!?!
another point: electronica? where did that word come from?
#12
Posted 28 January 2005 - 6:49 PM
Another thing is that there aren't any magazines that people get really excited about - When The Face and NME were at thier height they had really interetsing things and and people looked forward to buying them. Now 'music journalists' are just chancers who want a career in the media and don't really care about sharing really brilliant new music with as many people as possible.
The internet has had a big part to play in killing magazines too - as things can become old news before magazines are printed.
The internet has had a big part to play in killing magazines too - as things can become old news before magazines are printed.
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