There certainly is mixing involved thats what Tom does. I think Biffs bang on with his sum up but I'll just say a couple of things to the people here who all think its all coming off a tape or CD backstage.

Firstly - A live sound like the Chems have needs to be split up into channels otherwise it would sound just like a CD playing through a PA. Note the difference between a DJ playing a Chems track in a club and what the Chems sound like live. There's much more dimension to their sound live. Like Biff says a fair amount of what they do during any given track will come off samplers a nd sequencers filtered through Toms mixing desk which he has complete control over. Other parts like those fantastic analogue noises they seem to be using more and more of are done live . Hence the more than subtle differences you can here from gig to gig. For example they added some fantastic little analogue noises over Star Guitar at RockNess when I saw them during the summer, I've never heard them doing that again since with that track. A tape recording I think not.

Secondly. It costs them personally a huge amount of money to ship all that gear around the world when they tour. Do you really think they would do it if it weren't all really needed? Also at festivals over the years where I've seen their roadies set up before their slot I've more than once seen them having difficulties getting stuff patched in. T in the Park 2004 they were late coming on after much faffing with a bit of kit.

I don't think all of that was a put on just to make them 'seem' like they're doing it for real.

You people really know your stuff! I am impressed. Slipvin has never experienced the Chemical Love live, hence his stupid trolling comments.

This time he was just ironic, me thinks...

he probably saw the computer for the visuals and mixed it up thinking it was the music. it is definitely possible for them to play life with all the stuff i listed on stage

I wonder hwow it was back in the day, when they first started playing live, on the singles dvd there is some cool footage

"You people really know your stuff! I am impressed. Slipvin has never experienced the Chemical Love live, hence his stupid trolling comments."

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Um, yes I have. And it leaves you empty and sad and alone. And after you discover the truth behind the question all you can feel is that your mind was raped by fake loveless sounds coming out of a black box!!!

slipvin is totally one of these guys:

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...always hating on the rest

hahahaha i might have to agree

he is the one on the right

He reminds me of one of those old men who yells at the t.v and trys to luer young girls into his little house with candy and popsicils.

I've never come across those men before. I'm going to stay indoors from now on, I suggest you do the same.

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"I wonder how it was back in the day, when they first started playing live, on the singles dvd there is some cool footage"

It would have been the same. I saw them live in 97 and the sound wasn't fundamentally any different to how it is today (if anything they were louder then) Toms always had his mixing desk and has always controlled the mix 'live' from the sampler(s) and backing sequences.

To give you some idea of how difficult a job he and Ed are actually doing there was a documentary on TV a while ago about Pink Floyd's Dark side of the Moon. In it Dave Gilmour was talking about the mix of DSOTM and about album mixing generally and getting the right balance of sounds. He said that for him the mix is always where the real performance of an album takes place and not so much in the actual playing of the instruments themselves. Remember, what you hear at a Chems gig is a live mix of all the prerecorded sequenced and sampled parts not to mention all the stuff they improvise over the top. The fact that they've become so good at it shows if you listen to how their live sound has evolved over the years as its become more and more detailed and complex.

"He reminds me of one of those old men who yells at the t.v and trys to luer young girls into his little house with candy and popsicils."

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I bet you like meat popsicils.

slipvin is cool

Slipvin I bet you didn't know I was 16 right. And all that sexual induendo is probly illegal right.

mhm

lol

@Toby : the mixing during a live doesn't have to be as perfect as an album. If a sound is too loud, clipping, etc, it won't be very noticeable, unless you listen to the live with headphones pluged to the desk, in an isolated box without the crowd. On the other hand, an album has to have a perfect mixing, because people will listen to it more "closely" and any little imperfection will be noticed at once.

Yeah i know it doesn't have to be as perfect but I was just trying to illustrate the point that live mixing is a performance unto itself. And a difficult one at that.

Slipvin I bet you didn't know I was 16 right. And all that sexual induendo is probly illegal right.

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Not in my country it isn't babe.

Yeah, and his sig shows clearly what he prefers the most! Uncle Slipvin: "Give it to me, ya naughty little teddy bear! Quack quack"