Hi everyone, hi Tom & Ed, personnaly I think it's a VERY VERY bad idea to continue your 2010 shows with the same tracklist than Roundhouse. People are coming to your show for many years to live a specific experience, with many tracks and influences mixed together, but not to hear an album in his completeness.
It was working to the Roundouse because Further wasn't released (a showcase more than a concert), but now everybody know the album, and personnaly I will not come back in Paris in november if it's to hear Further live (and live tracks very similar to albums tracks) and just some bonus hits like to the Roundhouse...
More, I think some people will be very disappointed if you continue like that, and it will be very bad for your reputation...

I don't want to feel the Further tour like the worst chemical tour ever
So please, it's just an advice, you should change the concept of this tour, people will be tired...

I guess they would do this format for some time since Further's brand new.
I personally would love to see this show - I love Further so much - I'd like to see it played back to back with the films, and then get another 1 hr of an old classics set. This tour I'm guessing will be a raving success.

They said they'd be changing it up soon. Have some patience!

There is an interview of Tom saying they gonna play this show all the year, and a new show only in 2011...
@ Jack : To see Further synchrnized with the visual I have the dvd for that...
I'm not going to see Chems live to see something I can have to my home...

It's a personal thing I guess, I think I'd love to see Further played back to back - it's not like they're not playing the old songs at all!
Also, I have all the other songs at home also, that's not the reason I'm guessing you go for the live experience.

Some of the Further tracks they played at the Roundhouse were also very interesting, such as Horsepower, which imo sounds much much different live. Perhaps they will mix things up even more for the tours later in the year?

Keep the Further part intact, but kind of switch it a bit on the second half on the classics. IMO, There should be some element of surprise when they hit up a new city . The Chems are versatile are they? And do they not have at least all of their classic tracks in front of them? TPPR, SG, TGP, EBW's, etc.

Just got to wait and see, if not, no worries.

I understand why you might be a little turned off by the idea, but Further is really a proper concept album especially when you include the visuals, I think putting it all together for a tour is a good idea. The only problem is its a new idea and we all know what 50% of people think of new ideas. The show is going to be so much more than watching it at your home, I think if you go you'll realize that. And I know for me and a few others I want to hear all the new album songs live, not one of them should stay home and not go to the concert. I think hearing further before seeing it played live would be more fun because you'll be able to appreciate the new stuff seen and mentioned, such as a wigging acid line on horse power. Plus, I'm sure when you add up the number of new/old songs they play during the show it equals out to the same amount, I think the only disappointing thing you should be worried about is mixing the old and new, which Tom already acknowledged and addressed would be on the schedule for next year... These guys know what they're doing.

chemicalmat, on 20 June 2010 - 06:26 PM, said:

I want to go to your place to see your 15 meters screen

I can understand the concern - the Chemical Brothers are taking a risk by playing their album start-to-finish live. There's not a whole lot of bands that do this! Been reading the comments on Facebook and Chemmunity to get an idea of what people are saying off the forums. It will be interesting to see more opinions from concert-goers as the tour progresses. But anyway. I agree with what Biff says about this 100%

I have a home theater set up but it's got nothing on the monstrous gear, massive screen and mega sound system of a live show. I'm not too worried that it will be like viewing Further at home. It's not as though Tom and Ed are going to walk out on stage with a giant remote, switch on the screen, stick in a DVD, go out for a bite then come back after it's done to play some classics. We may only see the Chems once, or a handful of times during a tour - it's Tom and Ed that have to play this set night in and night out. We can't have our band burning out on the road anymore than they'd want their fans to burn out on their shows. Although the 1st half of the set list might be the same across the tour, I would imagine Tom and Ed would work their mad space wizardry, change things up within the aspects of Further that would make it a real live experience. Rather than regurgitate the same experience we can easily get in our living rooms.

I think the Chems delivering this Further concept to us in a live setting is a bold move considering how their previous shows and how apprehensive we can be when it comes to change.

I trust the Brothers know what they are doing and will make their gigs special for us all.

whirlygirl, on 20 June 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

"We fear change..."

chemicalmat, on 20 June 2010 - 12:26 PM, said:

If you and I were reading the same interview, did he not just say that they would "eventually switch over"?

So what is the duration of a Further tour gig now?

Ah, I love the way everyone react when somebody don't agree with Tom & Ed...
Sorry but for me, to see a Chems concert is not to see an album played live, with the same track order, the same visuals AND live versions looking similar to album versions... For a showcase ok, no problem, but hey, we are talking about Chems concert ! Call me hater if you want, the fact I'm loving Tom & Ed doesn't mean I must do the sheep saying "oh yes ! It's ok ! It's fantastic !". For me it's an error they are doing, a big error...

I attended the roundhouse show. It was really impressive though I have to agree with you...

I hope they won't play the same setlist at "le Zenith". I like to be surprised!

For me, I go to the Chems shows to hear the tunes played on a sound system so big, that it makes my bones rattle. It's nice to hear the little differences and improvisations (such as in The Big Jump), and the transitions between tracks are simply epic! I'd fully support the Further for the first 45 minutes, then an hour of Chems 'classics' (which we'll always be arguing about, what's in and what's out). But I'd like to hear Further being performed truly live. Not sure how to say this without sounding disrespectful, but I'd be gutted if they pressed play on the DVD, then mimed their way through it (not that I'd ever imagine they would!). Everything about Further suggests experimentation, and it'd be amazing to see this transposed onto the live stage. I'd encourage Tom & Ed to "re-invent" Further on the stage, remixing as they go, whilst still playing the track in order and keeping the visuals - sure, some of the live experimentation won't work, but I don't think anyone will mind when put into the context that this album is unique - never been done before, so why not keep the concept going when they take it to the road?

I totally agree with Chemicalmat ! I don't like the way they do the show. I think playing Further back-to-back then old stuff is not a good idea. Especially because of the fact that the Further they play is not very different from the DVD version.
I think Further should be mixed with the rest of their discography, because it's a chemical album ! They shouldn't separate it from their old stuff cause it would mean it's not totally chemical you know...
And there are no surprise, first becuse we all know Further by heart, and second because the old tracks they play have always been the same for years. It Doesn't Matter, Under The Influence, Out Of Control...no surprise. Plus the visuals of the old tracks are the same as WATN Tour which isn't a good thing.

I said a few weeeks ago that I would create a thread to say more about my expectations for the tour so I'm gonna do it right now.

Aside from the Roundhouse gigs, the Chems are technically 1 show into their tour and already people (who haven't seen them live this tour yet) don't like their new show. If people weren't happy with this set, then us fans would be moaning about something else like how they don't play enough old songs, or they don't play Salmon Dance or whatever.


We are a tough crowd... It doesn't mean anyone's a hater because they are concerned and want the best, though. And it doesn't mean people are sheep just because they trust the Chems know what they're doing with their own show.

chemicalfan, on 20 June 2010 - 04:02 PM, said:

That is how I feel and what I'm looking forward to - if the Chems are going to stick with this set list for the duration of 2010. They are 1 show into this tour and if past tours have taught us anything, it's that the Chems show will continue to evolve as the tour progresses.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

I would love to think that everyone will leave their expectations on "how the live 2010 shows should be to me" behind and enjoy what's been given to them however knowing what crowds were like especially back in 2008 during the WATN tour I don't think that will happen. Tom did say during the triple J interview he knew people would be pissed off if they continued the same shows at Roundhouse for the entire tour so I think they know they are taking a risk. I think by the time they reach Aus (2011?) anyway their set should have changed. I know I would LOVE to see Further on a huge screen with ear busting sound but I also know a LOT of people wouldn't. Your right Whirly... it is a tough crowd!

I get anxious when I go to the shows, not because I have huge expectations but for other peoples expectations. Is it just me or do other people on this forum experience people expressing their feelings to you when they don't like something the Chem's have done and basically ask you why they did it that way? Like you actually know the answer. It's kinda annoying but when a Chem's song comes on everyone turns and looks at me for my reaction or something. So I freak out and hide! sorry now I'm just ranting!

I could just say if you know you not going to enjoy the gig then don't go but I know touring costs a lot of money so it would suck if people got stubborn and don't go!