Or no shell fish. Or segrating women during 'her time of the month'. Or the right to sell your daughter into slavery.... it really never ends, the double standard and selective readings.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 8:51 AM
One of my roommate's friends dressed in a cheer-leading outfit for Halloween. He walked over to a party in the Mission here in San Francisco, and on his way a father out with his family yelled at him to go home because there were "children present."
A. It was Halloween.
B. How those children were actually harmed in any way by witnessing a man dressing up in costume is beyond me.
Once again, this was in San Francisco, and it shows that it's rather unfortunate that we still have such a long way to go. But much like the idea that integration between black and white people is a very normal, common thing, homosexuality and queer identity will one day be embraced as well.
It's just, you know, harder to convince people to tolerate homosexuality than it is racial difference. No one could stand up and say that any black person chose to be black. ;-)
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:12 PM
yeah, Prop 8 passed. California is less liberal then we all thought...
and a Senate recount Minnesota... it figures something like this would happen to Al Franken
tom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:
This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:33 PM
they wanna take it to the state court....which just so happens to be in the gay capital of the world... so this certainly wont be the last we hear of this...
tom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:
This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
#27 whirly
Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:48 PM
I predict gay rights will be the next big wave in the ever-evolving civil rights movement. Gay discrimination is still socially acceptable for whatever reasons, so we have a way to go in terms of tolerance.
I don't think this is over, either.
I want to know what this fresh hell of a proposition means for the thousands of gay marriages already in existance. We can't very well overturn their rights, nor are we upholding the California Constitution by not affording other gays the same rights as those in their community who were lucky enough to have gotten married before the ban.
Pooter - you're a law guy. What's your legal take on all of this?
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Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:53 PM
send all the gay porn you people got to the Knights of Columbus headquarters.... yes, I'm especially talking to you Chrisman
tom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:
This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 12:13 AM
Looks like opponents of Prop Hate have filed suit to block this proposition from being enacted.
http://www.sfgate.co.../BA3B13UM63.DTL
I imagine when this goes to court it will be struck down like Prop. 22... There are obviously details that allowed this proposition to be put on the ballot, because it's not just a repeat of Prop. 22.
I guess the suit is arguing that this is a "constitutional revision" that requires signatures from the State's legislature for enactment. I'm not quite sure how this will put a stop to the proposition being enacted, but there has to be a consideration to prohibit the denial of fundamental rights being put in to -any- state's constitution.
#31 chemdup
Posted 06 November 2008 - 1:28 AM
can anyone start a proposition?
if so why dont we start one that says the chems are the one and only spokespersons on electronic music and they should be held closer to god than the president!
god->the chemical brothers->the almighty dollar->oil->the president
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 8:15 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2...laws/index.html
Ah, I get it now: Legally what a few groups are trying to do is say that the process of -changing- the California Constitution can't be done through an initiative, it can only be done through the legislature. If the Cal. Supreme Court agrees with this legal theory, then it basically nullifies Proposition 8; in fact, it will basically mean that another initiative like Prop Hate couldn't be voted on again. Or, rather, if another Prop Hate were passed there would be a guarantee that it would be struck down by the Court.
The idea that one of the functions of the constitution, both California and the United States, is to protect minorities from majorities, in essence granting equal rights, does in fact mean that something like Prop Hate shouldn't be allowed to even be voted on. It pisses me off that people believe in equality only when it doesn't affect them.
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 7:57 AM
California & Oregon are in the same boat: we have some of the most liberal cities in America, however, when you leave the cities and go out to Bumstink County, they're like anywhere else in America: normally humble people with freaky hatred towards people/groups they've had little to no interaction with. It's so fucking easy to hate a race, religion, or person of different sexual orientation when you live in bubble and never interact with them.
People need to travel more and talk, break the communication barrier and see that other people are human beings with usually good souls. People try to make the world easy and therefore predictable and certainly living out in the middle of nowhere makes it easy to hate people when you only see token representation of the on the idiot-box.