I think it has everything to do with the Chemical Brothers. For all intensive purposes, only the tiniest fraction of anything remotely called music, is locked out of the mainstream media. The Chemical Brothers represent a genre of music that, for some reason, has been relegated to the underground and I think that is criminal. If people could actually hear their music, I believe all age groups could and would appreciate what they and others like them are doing. This stranglehold of the airwaves keeps many different forms of music out of the public consciousness thus destroying or severely limiting the scope of audio innovation. This is the age of pluralism, as so evidenced by the work of the Chemical Brothers, so by presenting a radio program free from the scrooge of corporate mandated play lists & genre specific formatting has everything to do with them.
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#22
Posted 19 January 2003 - 1:06 AM
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If people could actually hear their music, I believe all age groups could and would appreciate what they and others like them are doing.
You are so fucking right. But they have to hear it, you can't play it for them. If they heard TPPR come on their fave radio station, they'd be completely stripped to the bone. They wouldn't be able to turn it off because their pathetic fake-music muscles have disappeared. They would be lost in the Psychedelic Reel and then at the end of the track turn off the radio & fall to their knees, unintentionally bowing to the brothers. And then they would never hear such a thing on the radio again, and join the "underground" crowd. But not everyone can be underground, can we?
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#25
Posted 19 January 2003 - 8:15 PM
I honestly and truly believe that all music is capable of transgressing boundaries both cultural and social if people allow it. I remember being so worried about what other people thought of my musical tastes and being so worried about what was played on the radio. Yes it would be nice if everyone could hear what I'm hearing but it's not going to happen - not because my taste in music is better than anyone else's but because it's a matter of others' tastes and opinions and I'm fine with that. To each his own. Also people go through musical phases. It depends on where their lives are taking them - I'm sure you all have a story of how you got into electronic music. I'm sure sometime down the line you'll have a story that will describe how you got into other kinds of music. But personally I don't give a shit what other people think about my music tastes - I got over that years ago and trust me you'll be better off if you do your own thing. The state of the music industry is ever changing and ever fickle. You know, music can be a universal thing if people open their ears and at least give it a chance but in the end it boils down to opinion.
This is kind of cute so I thought I'd share as an example. On a Chemical related note - when I was working in a record store after Come With Us first came out. I didn't work on the floor much but I was putting some stuff out racks and The Test was playing throughout the store. I noticed a frail little old man hobbling around who was kind of looking like he was lost so I went up to him and asked him if he needed any help. He said, "What is this playing right now?"
I was more than happy to tell him of course. Wow, an old timer who was asking about the Chems, that doesn't happen to me every day!
He asked, "Is this whole record like this?" And I had to be honest because, no, imo the whole record isn't like The Test. And he said, "This is such a beautiful song, it doesn't sound real... like anything I've ever heard before." And he looks up again to what I don't know, and says, "So innovative... I wish there was more music that's like this song."
OK, so he didn't go off and buy the record and I didn't expect him to (I'm a crap sales person and he was a bit of a hard sell because he was very unfamiliar with electronic music) he just listened til the end of the song and hobbled his way into the Classical section of the store but see, there are people out there who have ears and an open mind. [/img]
This is kind of cute so I thought I'd share as an example. On a Chemical related note - when I was working in a record store after Come With Us first came out. I didn't work on the floor much but I was putting some stuff out racks and The Test was playing throughout the store. I noticed a frail little old man hobbling around who was kind of looking like he was lost so I went up to him and asked him if he needed any help. He said, "What is this playing right now?"
I was more than happy to tell him of course. Wow, an old timer who was asking about the Chems, that doesn't happen to me every day!
He asked, "Is this whole record like this?" And I had to be honest because, no, imo the whole record isn't like The Test. And he said, "This is such a beautiful song, it doesn't sound real... like anything I've ever heard before." And he looks up again to what I don't know, and says, "So innovative... I wish there was more music that's like this song."
OK, so he didn't go off and buy the record and I didn't expect him to (I'm a crap sales person and he was a bit of a hard sell because he was very unfamiliar with electronic music) he just listened til the end of the song and hobbled his way into the Classical section of the store but see, there are people out there who have ears and an open mind. [/img]
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#26
Posted 19 January 2003 - 8:55 PM
What a great story and it proves the point that, regardless of age, class or creed, people can appreciate all types of music if given the chance to hear it.
My radio show is on a adults standard station here in Richmond, Virginia and I get countless calls from older folks calling to say how much they enjoy things that conventional wisdom says they wouldn't. I played Tricky's, "She makes me wanna die" after George Jones's,"Why Baby Why" and I got a call from a nursing home outside of Richmond asking me who that great song was by. Now, they request it every other week. The underground is only the underground only because it is locked out of the mainstream. What has and always will be underground could, should and will appeal to outsiders if given the chance to do so, I believe. The Chemical Brothers being the perfect case in point.
Nothing fills me with a greater sense of unmitigated glee then to play songs that people haven't heard and have them call up and say how much they enjoy them. I want to destroy the massive corporate conglomerates who strangle the healing, redemptive power of music by cutting it up into genre specific packages. People should be exposed to a wide range of audio expression because god is the summation of us all. The next time you hear one of those contemptible radio stations spewing forth their trite, sanitized for your supposed protection, bile realize the grave injustice they are putting forth. They need to be eviscerated for their smug indifference. There needs to be a concerted effort to do away with the corporate monopoly of the nation's airwaves and the sooner the better.
My radio show is on a adults standard station here in Richmond, Virginia and I get countless calls from older folks calling to say how much they enjoy things that conventional wisdom says they wouldn't. I played Tricky's, "She makes me wanna die" after George Jones's,"Why Baby Why" and I got a call from a nursing home outside of Richmond asking me who that great song was by. Now, they request it every other week. The underground is only the underground only because it is locked out of the mainstream. What has and always will be underground could, should and will appeal to outsiders if given the chance to do so, I believe. The Chemical Brothers being the perfect case in point.
Nothing fills me with a greater sense of unmitigated glee then to play songs that people haven't heard and have them call up and say how much they enjoy them. I want to destroy the massive corporate conglomerates who strangle the healing, redemptive power of music by cutting it up into genre specific packages. People should be exposed to a wide range of audio expression because god is the summation of us all. The next time you hear one of those contemptible radio stations spewing forth their trite, sanitized for your supposed protection, bile realize the grave injustice they are putting forth. They need to be eviscerated for their smug indifference. There needs to be a concerted effort to do away with the corporate monopoly of the nation's airwaves and the sooner the better.
#27
Posted 19 January 2003 - 10:26 PM
Nicely said boopst and a very good story whirlygirl. My dad just loves The Test. It is indeed the best track on the album.
For quite some time i thought that the music that i listen to is the best and all others are just crap. That was like 3 years ago and now i am matured (i guess) enough to say once you get into any genre and start exploring and experimenting you might just love it.
For quite some time i thought that the music that i listen to is the best and all others are just crap. That was like 3 years ago and now i am matured (i guess) enough to say once you get into any genre and start exploring and experimenting you might just love it.
#28
Posted 20 January 2003 - 11:43 PM
bopst: I agree with you about those corporate bastards packaging genres. They hire producers to make pop background 'music' which is crappy, so that the vocals are highlighted... The Test is an excellent example of what music should be - melodic, harmonic and *with* the vocals. Not cold sounds, boring 4/4 beats, tiring lyrics, and bad singing. Record companies should be searching for talent, not sex appeal.
However, I have no argument with people listening to different genres from electronic. I listen to most music apart from electronic myself.
But I complain about people who put down electronic music and who listen to stripped down electronic music. Well, I'm rambling now.
However, I have no argument with people listening to different genres from electronic. I listen to most music apart from electronic myself.
But I complain about people who put down electronic music and who listen to stripped down electronic music. Well, I'm rambling now.
He put on a turn-down collar, a black bow, and wore his Sunday tail-coat. As such, he looked spruce, and what his clothes would not do, his instinct for making the most of his good looks would.