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#1 WhiteNoise   User is online

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:14 PM

I'm doing a t-shirt screen printing project for one of my classes at high school. I have 3 shirts to do and for one of the shirts I'm going to try to replicate Tom's awesome tank shirt.

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I need a little help though. My trouble is, I can't find a big enough image of the shirt to get a good idea of what the font is like. All the ones I can find (and I've searched plenty) are too small for me to accurately imitate the font the word are in. Does anyone here have a good shot of it? Specifically InChem - I know you have the shirt, you could take a picture of it?

Already got the tank:

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They used the tank in the live visuals for Galvanize (sans broken turret), that's what I used for the drawing:

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So I just need the font. Any help would be great :geek:
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:31 PM

The picture is from a French protest movement in the 70's, (78?) they were posters used for galvanize visuals and all the ptb singles and album. None the less they were posters w/lots of writing and good for font. God speed google!

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:38 PM

Sorry to dbl post, here we go;
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 12:28 AM

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 12:34 AM

inchemwetrust made an excellent replica of Tom's shirt! He wore it to the Hollywood Bowl. Maybe he'll come here and help a brother out. :)
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 1:45 AM

Lol, I didn't even know that this T-shirt came from mai 68.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
And I will rape
Each one of you

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For those who haven't seen them, I only have one thing to say.....Ha Ha!

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i didn't wear pants at home ;)

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 2:12 AM

kosek - thanks! :grin: That's really gonna come in handy, especially the original tank poster.

It's cool how much of The Chem's art is inspired from outside sources - like the WATN artwork: http://www.thechemic...-based-on-this/
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 2:39 AM

Whitenoise, show us the finished work! :D
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 6:34 AM

View PostWhiteNoise, on 07 October 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:

I'm doing a t-shirt screen printing project for one of my classes at high school. I have 3 shirts to do and for one of the shirts I'm going to try to replicate Tom's awesome tank shirt.

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I need a little help though. My trouble is, I can't find a big enough image of the shirt to get a good idea of what the font is like. All the ones I can find (and I've searched plenty) are too small for me to accurately imitate the font the word are in. Does anyone here have a good shot of it? Specifically InChem - I know you have the shirt, you could take a picture of it?

Already got the tank:



They used the tank in the live visuals for Galvanize (sans broken turret), that's what I used for the drawing:



So I just need the font. Any help would be great :geek:


First off, I never seen that pic of T and E, and in my opinion, it really looks like they were kick back and weren't doing no publicity shoots or mags of some sort. really genuine of all the pics that i've seen of them!

Anyway WN (and for those interested), i'm kind of just woke up in the middle of sleep (gotta get up in the morning at 4am for work) and saw your post. If you can wait tomorrow, I can upload the Tshirt file (I mean files) so you can print it, but I would prefer you to take to a professional (I'll explain this as well on Friday) and have them print on a shirt with vinyl lettering and size to your shirt size.

read this....from my post from Facebook June 3!

'i went thru a couple of font banks and i found it impossible to find the exact font used for Tom's shirt and the pic ( 1 http://sphotos.ak.fb..._6127934_n.jpg) Understand that the original art work was basically painted (probably stencils) for the street art in 68 in paris, so in this case, I have a couple of pics of Tom wearing the shirt (2 http://www.index.hr/...peresin_625.jpg ), and if you noticed, some of the letters from the pic (see 1) above can be used for Tom's 'Nous sommes le pouvoir' shirt ( see 2). The tank is intact so the when it his the heat press, it will be perfect. the other letters will be drawn manually (UPDATE: actually traced) but im gonna try to make it close to the original font.

What we learned..Tom's shirt was custom made! Letters to be made: N M P V and then i'm done.'

I'll have more to explain Friday, and by then, everyone can be wearing the shirt!

Philip
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 2:48 PM

View Postinchemwetrust, on 07 October 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

...and by then, everyone can be wearing the shirt!


Right on, I knew you'd come through!

It could also come in handy for Tom. I mean, one day he's going to pull that shirt out of his suitcase and it's going to be so threadbare it'll far apart in his hands. He's had that shirt for ages!
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 2:49 PM

View Postkosek, on 07 October 2010 - 08:28 PM, said:

*Epic series of familiar-looking images*


That is so freaking awesome.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 3:38 PM

OK let's bring some more:

Push The Button head:

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I lost my original Push the Button CD but I remember there were mechanisms like this
with tracklisting (and on the LIVE 05 EP)

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The fist from Push the Button tour visuals:

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 6:19 PM

Well, actually all the PTB era artwork seems to be based on mai 68 O_O

This explains the political lyrics on Left Right...
Roses are red
Violets are blue
And I will rape
Each one of you

View Postinchemwetrust, on 12 August 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

For those who haven't seen them, I only have one thing to say.....Ha Ha!

View PostThePumisher, on 04 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

i didn't wear pants at home ;)

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 1:33 AM

View Postinchemwetrust, on 08 October 2010 - 01:34 AM, said:

Anyway WN (and for those interested), i'm kind of just woke up in the middle of sleep (gotta get up in the morning at 4am for work) and saw your post. If you can wait tomorrow, I can upload the Tshirt file (I mean files) so you can print it, but I would prefer you to take to a professional (I'll explain this as well on Friday) and have them print on a shirt with vinyl lettering and size to your shirt size.

Ok, great! I have plenty of time to work on this, so you can upload the files whenever you need to. Since I'm doing this for my class I'm still going to have to do a manual screen print, but I'll be sure to do a professional print at some point.
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Posted 09 October 2010 - 2:22 AM

I might try a stupid pun but I'm afraid it'll be unfunny...
Roses are red
Violets are blue
And I will rape
Each one of you

View Postinchemwetrust, on 12 August 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

For those who haven't seen them, I only have one thing to say.....Ha Ha!

View PostThePumisher, on 04 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

i didn't wear pants at home ;)

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 2:29 AM

View PostThe bloke off the internet, on 08 October 2010 - 09:22 PM, said:

I might try a stupid pun but I'm afraid it'll be unfunny...

Let me guess - a '.shirt' file?

ba-dump *kisssk*
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Posted 09 October 2010 - 7:15 AM

How it all started..

Fire up Photoshop and open the following...

1) a new blank document

2) The picture 'salaires legers chars lourds'

3) a pic with Tom wearing the shirt 'nous sommes le pouvoir'

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By looking at the pic above, we want to get the best possible way to acheive the look of tom's shirt, but we need to borrow some elements of the 'salaires legers' pic.NOTE: THE SALAIRES LEGERS PIC IS THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL ART THAT WAS USED. ALSO NOTE THAT THIS 1968 ARTWORK WAS STENCILED AND THEN PAINTED OVER POSTERS, WHICH MAKES IT VERY UNIQUE, SO WHEN WE (THAT'S US) MAKE TOM'S SHIRT, WE WANT TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE ORIGINAL ARTWORK INTO TOM'S 'NOUS SOMMES' SHIRT.

The first thing we can do is cutout (or tracing a copy) of the tank from the 'salaires' pic.
You can use Photoshop or Illustrator. I used Illustrator and used 3 layers. I named them,
from top to bottom, Layer one, Layer two, and Layer three. Layer one will be blank, and your pen tool will be the color white. Layer two will be the 'salaires pic', and layer three will a black background. I then traced the the pic using the pen tool.

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The tank is finished! We will break the cannon (like tom's shirt) in PS in a bit!
With the other 3 documents that we have already opened in PS, were gonna go ahead and grab the tank from your Illustrator window and drag it to the blank document in PS. Now you have 4 windows inside PS. Save your PS file to your computer.
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Posted 09 October 2010 - 7:16 AM

Now the HARD part!

First, Select the polygonal lasso tool and select the layer where the Tank is. Now select the part of the cannon that is going to be broken. Once you lasso the area of the cannon, you will then see the dancing ants, now hit Ctrl + C, and then Ctrl +V. The part of cannon that has been cut is now on a new layer. Select this layer and then select the box 'Show Transform Controls'. Now you can rotate the broken cannon to actually look like the one on Tom's shirt.

The tank is done, so lets move to the text part of it! Let's look at both the 'Salaires' pic and Tom's 'Nous Sommes' pic. as you can see, the letters from 'Salaires' pic are pretty unrestricted, meaning the spacing between letters (tracking) the lack of a bassline, and the rugginess of the letters give it personality of its own. In this case, we must keep these letters in intact, and they cannot be edited because the artwork is a one of a kind. Note: If there IS a font of this, don't use it, because the font will probably have smoother characters, cleaner lines, and will lack the integrity of the original artwork. WE DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS!

Look at the 2 pics, the 'salaires' pic, and the Toms 'nous sommes'. As you can see, some of the letters from 'salaires' can be used for our 'sommes' shirt. So I copied the these letters from the 'salaires' pic by using the polygonal lasso tool and then pasting them into the tank document.
(This is probably the hardest part to when I was making this shirt.)

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The other letters that you need to complete the 'Nous Sommes Le Pouvoir' are N, M, P, V. These letters will have to be traced as perfectly as possible from the 'sommes' pic (This is the really hardest part of the shirt). The P can be done more easily by making a copy of the 'R' letter and trimming to look like a P.

Once all the letters are all done, your artwork will be complete.......oops....not yet....!
Save your PS file on your computer.

Get the Tom's 'Nous Sommes' pic and drag into your tank document. Make sure the 'Nous sommes' pic is the bottom layer. Now, set the opacity for the tank and the letters to at least 50 percent because now you will have to allign the tank and the letters to tom's 'nous sommes' pic. By doing this, your making this shirt more precise as possible. The below pic shows the tank and letters are now 50 percent transparent and you can see the 'nous sommes' pic right below it. Use arrow keys to for more precision.
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Once you have the tank and letters alligned, save your work! Now delete any layers that you are not using anymore. Just keep the letters and tank on a single layer (or layers) Now save the file as a EPS file (this format can be used and read by vinyl lettering cutting machines to print on your T-shirt. If you save it as a pdf, tiff, jpeg, or png, etc, the printmaster may convert the artwork into vector based (outlines) before he prints it on the shirt. If he or she does this conversion, please ask to look over to what he or she is doing because sometimes the conversion might alter the lettering and might ruin the way you wanted the artwork to look like in the first place. (Remember what I said about the integrity of the original artwork :)

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Here's the file
http://www.zshare.ne...30686749eee2b9/

@WN
Use this as a guide! I think you can do a much better job on the letters than I can. Oh and one more think. On Tom's shirt, if you look at the word 'Pouvoir', look closely at the letter 'o'! It looks like there's something inside it. It might be a target reticle or a peace symbol!! It's hard to tell, so I put a peace symbol on my shirt anyway.

Good luck!
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Posted 09 October 2010 - 4:52 PM

View PostWhiteNoise, on 09 October 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

Let me guess - a '.shirt' file?

ba-dump *kisssk*



No, that was actually...























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Commical Brothers ! LULZ!!1!


Ima hangin myself now...
Roses are red
Violets are blue
And I will rape
Each one of you

View Postinchemwetrust, on 12 August 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

For those who haven't seen them, I only have one thing to say.....Ha Ha!

View PostThePumisher, on 04 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

i didn't wear pants at home ;)

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Posted 09 October 2010 - 11:38 PM

View Postinchemwetrust, on 09 October 2010 - 09:15 AM, said:

You can use Photoshop or Illustrator.

What is the main difference between Photoshop and Illustrator? Never worked with Illustrator but it looks similar. Great work by the way.

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