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Droning sitar effect: how to?
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#1
Posted 31 July 2005 - 8:32 AM
So, how do you make the droning sitar effect? I have a few diferent samples of a sitar and I want to know how to manipulate it into the droning type. Thanks in advance (been meaning to ask this for a week >.<)
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#3
Posted 01 August 2005 - 12:34 AM
what id do: (only because i like fucked up noises, keep in mind this would probly not give oyu the sound your after, i just though id add my 2 cents)
get the sample, and elastique stretch the motha to tha shiz. THEN slap a shit load of delay (two delay units working on different delay ratio's) and Verb on it, also send heaps of that to a send channel with a nice filter on it, and automate that whilst the sitar plays. NOW, give a second send challel another two delay unitz (both now with almost unlimited feedback) and then slap a distortion unit (turned all the way down) after that. turn up the send to that channel about half way through playing the sample. and enjoy the truly fucked up crazy delay, now slowly turn up the distortion...
there you have it... fucked up noise 1, ittl probly last about 2 mins too ;)
get the sample, and elastique stretch the motha to tha shiz. THEN slap a shit load of delay (two delay units working on different delay ratio's) and Verb on it, also send heaps of that to a send channel with a nice filter on it, and automate that whilst the sitar plays. NOW, give a second send challel another two delay unitz (both now with almost unlimited feedback) and then slap a distortion unit (turned all the way down) after that. turn up the send to that channel about half way through playing the sample. and enjoy the truly fucked up crazy delay, now slowly turn up the distortion...
there you have it... fucked up noise 1, ittl probly last about 2 mins too ;)
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#8
Posted 01 August 2005 - 9:31 PM
If you have a WAV program like Sound Forge what you can do:
1. Take the second half of the sound of sitar note, so after the string is plucked.
2. Copy it, and put it into a new window.
3. Reverse it.
4. Then Copy that part being played foward, and mix it into the window with it being played reverse.
The reason I say second half is because if you have the noise of the sitar being plucked it will come out funky, that way now you have a loop that can be played continously. I've done this and it comes out great.
Enjoy
1. Take the second half of the sound of sitar note, so after the string is plucked.
2. Copy it, and put it into a new window.
3. Reverse it.
4. Then Copy that part being played foward, and mix it into the window with it being played reverse.
The reason I say second half is because if you have the noise of the sitar being plucked it will come out funky, that way now you have a loop that can be played continously. I've done this and it comes out great.
Enjoy
#10
Posted 01 August 2005 - 9:55 PM
Thaks Biff, that sounds like it would work, I kind of thought about doing that, but I wasn't sure if it would work and I was too lazy to try.
Drone boxes sound really cool. Wish I had one.
Drone boxes sound really cool. Wish I had one.
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#11 toomuchstash
Posted 01 August 2005 - 10:00 PM
This was like 14 years ago, in the days before e-bay... he had this friend of ours who was indian, and who went there every year, bring em back.
Whirly's mom was going to bring her a sitar when she went a couple years ago, but didn't want to carry it on the plane.
Whirly's mom was going to bring her a sitar when she went a couple years ago, but didn't want to carry it on the plane.
#12
Posted 02 August 2005 - 12:20 AM
Well I've been fantacizing about owning a sitar for ... like... years, and I finally managed to get one (tough thing to do here in france), and it is at the same time awesome and kind of disappointing (as it is a very difficult instrument to master, plus mine is kind of a cheap one)...
Anyway, the funny thing is that, despite actually owning a sitar, i still use a drone sample lifted from the beatles tommorrow never knows... It is great, as it is quite long (you've got the drone and you can actually hear a few soft strokes on the drone string before the drums kick in), and has a very soft attack...
Probably because I'm better at mastering my faithfull Akai S2000 than the sitar...
It is really a great base to create sounds with. It is very easy to loop as the sound in itself is quite blurry (you can crossfade or stick the same part of the sound, reversed, at the end of the forward soun to make it longer - ping pong loop), plus it gets even deeper if you stack two or more identic samples, slightly detuned, maybe playing with the pan or the filter... this sound is very rich harmonically speaking, so it is an ideal ground for a low pass filter, and you can create more percussive instruments messing around with the envelopes...
God, the hours of fun I had with this sample...
Anyway, the funny thing is that, despite actually owning a sitar, i still use a drone sample lifted from the beatles tommorrow never knows... It is great, as it is quite long (you've got the drone and you can actually hear a few soft strokes on the drone string before the drums kick in), and has a very soft attack...
Probably because I'm better at mastering my faithfull Akai S2000 than the sitar...
It is really a great base to create sounds with. It is very easy to loop as the sound in itself is quite blurry (you can crossfade or stick the same part of the sound, reversed, at the end of the forward soun to make it longer - ping pong loop), plus it gets even deeper if you stack two or more identic samples, slightly detuned, maybe playing with the pan or the filter... this sound is very rich harmonically speaking, so it is an ideal ground for a low pass filter, and you can create more percussive instruments messing around with the envelopes...
God, the hours of fun I had with this sample...
#14
Posted 02 August 2005 - 5:43 AM
I would've loved it if my parents brought me back a sitar when they travelled to India! The main reason why she didn't bring me back a sitar is because she said they were so huge, and she's so tiny, like 4'11" and the ones she looked at were taller than she was, and she really didn't want to lug it around all over - can't blame her really but it would've been funny to see this tiny little American woman lugging around this massive musical instrument. X-D
Anyway, about those drone boxes. They weren't the more traditional shruti boxes, they weren't a bellows instrument. The ones I worked with were electric, and they had their own speaker port, and they were very simplistic - the ones I've seen on the internet have a lot more knobs it seems than the ones we used to play around with. They were really really cool - Frank had some of the coolest gear!
When we used to work on music it was fun to just turn them on and listen to them drone, seriously... relax and let your mind float downstream and after a while you could hear patterns or even melodies within the noise. Kind of like hearing things that might or might not have been there... It's sort of hard to explain (I'm sure mippio knows what this phenomenon is called! ;) ) It was inspiring to do this because the droning acted as sort of a foundation to musically build on, you'd find yourself humming a tune or picking up an instrument and picking out a melody that accompanied the droning.
With the drone boxes, you could affect the phase and adjust the pitch and key, although that was sort of difficult to get the pitch just right so it was in tune with the instruments.
It would be neat-o to get ahold of those drone boxes, just something cool to have when kicking about and experimenting with playing music. I think they go for around $150 U.S.
Anyway, about those drone boxes. They weren't the more traditional shruti boxes, they weren't a bellows instrument. The ones I worked with were electric, and they had their own speaker port, and they were very simplistic - the ones I've seen on the internet have a lot more knobs it seems than the ones we used to play around with. They were really really cool - Frank had some of the coolest gear!
When we used to work on music it was fun to just turn them on and listen to them drone, seriously... relax and let your mind float downstream and after a while you could hear patterns or even melodies within the noise. Kind of like hearing things that might or might not have been there... It's sort of hard to explain (I'm sure mippio knows what this phenomenon is called! ;) ) It was inspiring to do this because the droning acted as sort of a foundation to musically build on, you'd find yourself humming a tune or picking up an instrument and picking out a melody that accompanied the droning.
With the drone boxes, you could affect the phase and adjust the pitch and key, although that was sort of difficult to get the pitch just right so it was in tune with the instruments.
It would be neat-o to get ahold of those drone boxes, just something cool to have when kicking about and experimenting with playing music. I think they go for around $150 U.S.
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#15
Posted 02 August 2005 - 5:51 AM
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Thats really helpful, thank you Consumer... hey, you have the same name as my local grocery store!
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