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#21 Chrisman   User is offline

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Posted 15 March 2005 - 7:16 PM

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'People are pretending to like it beacause it's Daft Punk.'





Thats the biggest load of bullshit I have heard in a long time.




Saying something is bullshit without explaining is like eating a tire. It's useless and makes you look like an idiot.



As far as I'm concerned, I don't think it's not possible. Some people might worship Daft Punk so much that their opinions about this CD became, somehow, different from the opinion they would have had if it wasn't a daft punk album.



Like "WHOAAAA NEW DAFT PUNK ALBUM!!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! WOOO THIS VOCODER SOUND REPEATED AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!!!!!! GENUIS!!!!!!!! MY GOD THESE GUITAR RIFFS, NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO DROP THIS SYRINGE YOU ALL WHITE DRESSED BIG MAN!!!!!!"



Been there seen that. They might think that some tracks are actually _good_. 8O Believe it or not.

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Posted 15 March 2005 - 8:16 PM

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People are pretending to like it beacause it's Daft Punk. If it was made by another band they wouldn't be that positive...






i have to disagree with you in that case, sorry - but that would mean that quite a lot of people pretended to like PTB just for being a Chems release...
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Posted 16 March 2005 - 3:35 AM

Does anyone remember in an earlier thread someone stating that the what was released on the net wasn't actually the full album....has anyone who downloaded that heard the actual album to verify? Based on the comments I've heard it sounds like that was actually the whole album...& based on that I must say that the new daft punk is asscrap! Only song that I'm a sucker for is Make Love and I say I'm sucker for it 'cause I don't even think it's even that great.. :'(

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Posted 16 March 2005 - 3:57 AM

Since it was released today, my store played this throughout the day so I only got a chance to listen at stop-gap intervals as I was running around doing my job.



But anyway, the (I think it was Human After All) song is all right, I can see this working out well in a club, it was quite catchy. Actually there appeared to be a couple of catchy tunes. But that was pretty much the standout track *so far.*



There was one song playing later on (didn't catch the name of it) but it went on for what seemed like 8 minutes of the same loop. Have to say I was not very impressed with this one, the production seemed a bit flat and "lacking" as others pointed out - too much of the same repeat/repeat/repeat/repeat that seemed to stretch for ages, and I know Daft Punk are much more capable of musical depth than that!



To be reasonable, things always sound a lot different in the chaotic atmosphere at my work: regarding what happened with my initial thoughts on Prodigy's AONO vs. when I actually got it home. Loved AONO when I heard it first at work, was unlistenable for me at home. So for me to be judging this new Daft record in its entirety isn't really fair... just yet. I may feel a lot differently when I get the record in my car or at home. But I can't say what I heard today will have me clawing my way through other coworkers for a promo copy...
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Posted 16 March 2005 - 4:38 AM

I don't think it would be easy for anyone to make a good follow up to Discovery and Homework, and I also think that the listener should judge this record considering those great albums.



When Homework came out it was the right stuff at the right time, being innovative enough to make people think: "this is genius"; I think they managed to put some freshness into the dance music scene without being too "ahead", making it easy for everyone to state that that was a masterpiece, exactly what people wanted, you know.



When Discovery was released it pushed their sound to an even more "commercial" appeal, passing the test of the second album, always hard for every artist on earth; plus, the videos (that were amazing also for the singles off their first album) were really well done, and Interstella was an interesting idea, making Discovery almost a "dance concept album", which is something that makes me think they had lots of ideas and they took their time to work on the project.



When I listened to Human After All I cannot say it was a little disappointing at first; not only because the tracks are kinda left there, but also because I could listen to it just four or five times, then I started to get bored. The fact that later on I read it was put together in six weeks didn't help, and now I consider it like a sort of e.p., thrown in the music business to make hardcore fans happy, nothing more.



I always considered Daft Punk one of the best dance acts because they used to focus on sounds and production, but they always kept an eye to the melodic side of their music (these times often left aside); but more than one thing is missing here. Where's the club anthem? Where are the sounds that make an 8 minute continuous loop seem a 2 minute song because of their perfection? And after Interstella you're saying you're not giving me anything else but a 45 minute album?



Since there's little of everything here, I'm starting to think that either they want to prove that what really counts is the idea itself (and they left it "unfinished" on purpose) or there were some restrictions in the "making of" this album that we cannot know, or that we will know only in the future.

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Posted 16 March 2005 - 3:00 PM

I hate to say, but An-types spot on, it really does all sound the same to me. Robot Rock I think is the only highlight, maybe Brainwasher Live or in a club....It's not a very home listening album and you couldn't play it in a club which leaves me the question...where the fuck can u play it??



Homework was great, and I just bought Discovery yesterday so Im hoping that the past (Discovery) will be better that the future (Human After all).



Pains me to say the above, as i love dance music and dont want to see it die out, but the Chems new album is what all good dance albums should sound like.



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#28 Slipvin   User is offline

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Posted 16 March 2005 - 3:11 PM

Buy this instead:





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Posted 16 March 2005 - 7:40 PM

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Buy this instead:









super discount 1 is even better!
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 3:27 AM

Well, I just got a super deluxe advance promo of Super Deluxe 3. :P It's gonna rock da hizzy.
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 3:28 AM

Can't tell a fucking joke to save my fucking life. nevermind.
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 4:16 AM

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Can't tell a fucking joke to save my fucking life. nevermind.




Super Deluxe 3 eh? X-D

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 6:18 AM

Slipvin Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Can't tell a fucking joke to save my fucking life. nevermind.




Super Deluxe 3 eh? X-D




It's hot. A must-listen! ;)
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 11:52 AM

Saw an advert for Human after all on the TV (about 3 times now)

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 6:38 PM

I find it strange that my first post (after lurking for quite a while) is about Daft Punk but never the less;



I was really looking forward to this album for a long while. I bought it when I was in America and after travelling a long way I finally got to listen to it at home. If hype ever killed an album it was this one.



Although this may be a contradiction in terms people who have listened to the album will understand me when I say the only pattern here is repetition. Although some may say that other artists are guilty of the same repetition, a complaint I have heard launched at the Chems and Prodigy before now, but they always had at least one kicker in their songs; a standout moment in virtually every track that got your heart racing and sent the crowd into a frenzy, however H.A.A is flat and boring. With some tracks really poor...I'm talking Scooter poor.



I have heard people say "If this wasn't Daft Punk you wouldn't be happy with it". I feel totally the other way, if this wasn't Daft Punk, and a debut album from a new act, I may be inclined to say it's OK, but because Daft Punk have a legacy to live up to I am taking into account their other albums. No progression, a step in the wrong direction and flat.



Some tracks are OK, such as Human After All (which looks as though it was put on at the start of the album because of this, I know from personal experience that if that wouldn't have been at the beginning I wouldn't have reached the end) but they are a drop in the Ocean compared to the rest.



However...



It is how Daft Punk now bounce back from this calamity that concerns me. This album will not put me off Daft Punk, everybody has to go through a flat phase once in a while, they are...

HUMAN AFTER ALL!

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 11:49 PM

I was thinking that as well. When I first listened to the album I thought "they've lost it", but in the back of my mind I reckon in time it will be considered a low point in their career.



Lets hope its not the end of Daft Punk.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 5:34 AM

I thought they lost it after the Franz Ferdinand remix. Shite that was.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 10:17 AM

I reckon they sort of did it on purpose. This must be one of the most anticipated albums of all time and they knew that, but I don't think they purposefully made a crap album. Apparently, this is them "experimenting" 8O

I'm just glad it isn't another Discovery, I think they covered the soppy, love Disco with that 1 X-D



I think they're also trying to say "who says you can't do a 10 track, 45 minute album?!"



At least they're still pushing barriers and not churning out the same ol'

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Posted 20 March 2005 - 2:40 AM

Review:



Ideally, the physics of record reviewing are as elegant as actual physics, with each piece speaking to the essence of its subject as deliberately and as appropriately as a real-world force reacting to an action. In that world, where this is just another record by another dance act, Human After All is passable and hardly special.



But in my head, where items like Homework and Discovery and-- oh, what the hell-- "Music Sounds Better With You" and "So Much Love to Give" are allowed to be admitted as evidence, and where the weight of expectation and precedence get to have a say, this feels like not just a failure, but a heartbreaker.



The rap on Human After All is that it was recorded in two weeks, which should've been our first clue that it was going to surface as a droopy flower. Such cavalier recording approaches fly in the rock world because listeners are forgiving of minimal production methods; hell, as any Julian and Fab'll tell you, under the right light, they'll even embrace them. In rock music, where descriptors like "raw" and "ragged" are virtues, finesse is not only unnecessary, it's often discouraged. In dance music, where the illusion of performance has to be sculpted, finesse is more critical-- make a record in two weeks and 99.6% of the time, it'll sound like it was made in two weeks.



Turns out Daft Punk are (mostly) human after all, because from a compositional standpoint, this sounds like it was made in about 19 days. Even the good stuff sounds painfully extemporaneous, like early sketches of tracks that deserve to be much better. Take the title cut-- a slick, vocoder-driven track that, despite being one of the better offerings on the record, has such a clinical build that it registers as patterned and completely starved of joy. It's Daft Punk going through the motions and, for the first time in their career, sounding like cynics.



If there's a defining thread to Human After All, it's that there's very little here that rings with wonderment or joy. The songs that make the most overt stabs at those emotions still sound like vague approximations of better songs that preceded them: "Robot Rock" is a poor man's "Aerodynamic", "Technologic" a poor man's "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger", and so on. Ultimately, it's the phoned-in "Television Rules the Nation" that confirms Daft Punk's slackening standards; they give us nine proper songs after four years and this is one of them?



In the end, it's not as if there aren't things to like about Human After All-- both "Make Love" and "Emotion", for example, are totally charming. I just wish that they didn't come at the expense of Daft Punk's mystique. Then again, if the point is to be rock, maybe on some totally boring level, they've succeeded admirably: What's more rock'n'roll than hitting the self-destruct button?



-Mark Pytlik, March 15, 2005



Source: http://www.pitchfork...after-all.shtml

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Posted 20 March 2005 - 5:37 AM

would love to see a flip the switch style remix of this album.

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