Slipvin Escribi�:

chemd'up Escribi�:

all musical respect now lost for them



full respect however still remains for exploiting the fans! its not even them on stage for half the gigs, and not even them producing the songs!





french wankers

Daft Punk rules.



Homework is a classic. Way better than, let's say... PTB.



Your hatred towards them is quite pathetic.

likewise

you and PTB....

Slipvin Escribi�:

chemd'up Escribi�:

all musical respect now lost for them



full respect however still remains for exploiting the fans! its not even them on stage for half the gigs, and not even them producing the songs!





french wankers

Daft Punk rules.



Homework is a classic. Way better than, let's say... PTB.



Your hatred towards them is quite pathetic.

Catch a grip slip. Quit dissin PTB its getting kinda old now that Chemical 6 is on its way.

Homework sucks! I like daft punk but most of it is pretty fucking boring compared to their later stuff, I probably would say if their recent live sets were an album that would be the best but homework is so easily produced where as something like oh i don't know PTB actually had depth to the sound not one loop and a 909

I have to agree with Slipvin (about Homework, not Push The Button!)



I'm not someone who says I'm a fan of Daft Punk, so my opinion might not wash here which is fine. It doesn't mean I don't have respect for them because I do - despite what my significant other may think - I'm just not someone who'd say "yeah, I totally dig em man" just because I had nothing better to say. And I don't have anything deep to add, any truly thoughtful criticism toward anything newer than homework other than it's just a bit too house, a bit too repetitive and it's not something I would listen to. But I will say that, for example, in my opinion songs off Human After All... I think those songs work better mixed into other things (I'm thinking of a dj spinning records in a club) rather than being great stand alone tracks. In that aspect, Daft Punk works. Their songs are meant to be played out in clubs and mixed into other songs - at least to my ears anyway. And I can respect that.



But whether their sampling is gratiutous or clever is really a matter of opinion. DJ Shadow's Endtroducing is brilliant and clever and that we can all pretty much agree on - but even that album has been tossed aside as gratuitous in other circles, if that makes any sense.



For the record I really enjoyed Homework. But maybe for different reasons. I haven't listened to it in a good long time, years to be honest - but yes, hearing it takes me back to a time that only months later changed forever. It's part of a series of fond memories. It was pretty much a generation ago and it is what it is. We can pick apart production values and compare them to recent works which is fair enough. But sometimes production doesn't mean it's the end all be all - there's music out there that may have weak production values but can be raw and powerful all the same. But on the argument of production with a band that started out young like Daft Punk, fine tuning the production values is just the natural progression of things in a band's evolution - much like how the production values of Exit Planet Dust aren't quite on par with say, Push The Button (sorry Slipvin!!). I just got done reading a big thread from 2005 that touched on that - so I thought I'd chime in. For what it's worth.

*walks into thread*



*smacks head with hand*



*walks out of thread*

Bosco Escribi�:

*walks into thread*



*smacks head with hand*



*walks out of thread*

*smacks Bosco silly*

iguanapunk Escribi�:

ghostyflakes Escribi�:

big deal...they reinterpret the songs, sometimes the difference is big, sometimes its minimal. they're consistent at what they sample/"rip off" and don't come off as having big egos or making any big statements. there's way bigger fish to fry than calling daft punk (or any other electronic musician) a hack for borrowing from existing songs. everyone's guilty.



do you dislike rap too? or the idea of a dj set being a piece of music on its own?

Are you aiming this at me? I hope for your sake you're not.

oh yeah im looking at you, sport. are you mad? do we have internet beef.com now? just saying.

i havent even listened to daft punk lately, actually, but this robot rock song everyones talking about, they just fell off the wagon a bit.



did everyone see this debate about timbaland supposedly biting some young norweigan (i think?) group's song for a nelly furtado song? it brought a lot of age old controversy with it. i personally think its laughable for anybody at all to think timbaland is a hack, but yeah, worst case scenario if he DID steal a song, it's just a stain on his record and doesn't null his record entirely.



or remember when the chems got in some trouble for supposedly plagiarizing tomorrow never knows for setting sun? i know i rolled my eyes.



any and all art, it's truly rare to be free of some level of plagiarism, it's human and it's part of evolving. painters, djs, writers, everyone does it. no, that doesn't justify it, but it's enough to dismantle's somebody's crediblity entirely.

^^^ OOPS, "not* enough to dismantle"

I've not listened to the sample posted but I can't be bothered thinking about if its really them performing (why would they pay someone else to take the credit for music they've created themselves?), if its live etc etc. I thought they were awesome in Barcelona back in July and I've just bought a ticket to see them at the Wireless Festival in Leeds 8).

mc marsh Escribi�:

I've not listened to the sample posted but I can't be bothered thinking about if its really them performing (why would they pay someone else to take the credit for music they've created themselves?), if its live etc etc. I thought they were awesome in Barcelona back in July and I've just bought a ticket to see them at the Wireless Festival in Leeds 8).

Aw, man... such a shame we missed each other there. That was a beautiful f_king experience, wasn't it?