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#1 JacksRevenge   User is offline

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 10:04 AM

Ok, I came online today morning, and suddenly see a million new threads - all noobs starting threads about various aspects of WATN - IT'S KINDA PISSING!!


Since these discussions will not die, I'm putting up a thread for all discussions related to WATN, because goin through some of the threads - I did see some wonderful thoughts about the album/ various songs, and sad they'r all getting lost.


So here's the place to put everything WATN. It was really no point deleting the old thread with a million spurting every five mins like zombies!


Noobs - ONE RULE : DO NOT ask for album links/ beg/ flame on this thread - or stash will just ban yer noob ass - deleting posts is too much trouble. If he doesn't have banning priveleges yet, he'll personally send mail bombs to all of ye.

No seriously - pls keep this thread clean of flames and begging pleas for the album - you aint getting it on the official forum. We've always been wonderful to new people on the board - just show some respect for the Brothers, the music, and some basic decorum - trust me this is the best board on the web, and you'll know soon why if stay around and get to know us.


Ok, to start - I'd like to post a beautiful thing Whirly wrote somewhere about Battle Scars and Midnight Conversation - I think these gems need to be archived, so here it is :


(damn, I can't find it now with all those gazillion threads - whirly please repost)


Edit : Found it!


"Anyway - on with Battle Scars. whirly Spoilers:


I can see where the wait for this song to take off (like how lots of Chems songs do) may not appeal to everyone which is fair enough. I already have an emotional attachment to the song, and feel it's one of the Chems most reflective and in many ways, introspective song at least for me. What I mean, is that to me it perfectly depicts what it's like getting older and having this weight of life and passing time on your shoulders. Strangled by the rent, a child born in a world of scorn, not really knowing where you're going or what purpose you have only that you're on this path called life... You get through it, the final charge as you're walking into that setting sun, looking for that brand new beat - and what's left is you're older and wiser because history's catching up at last and you've got the scars of life to show for it. Maybe I'm just looking too deeply into this song, but it hits me on many levels that are intensely personal. I also love Willy Mason's voice, reminds me a lot of Johnny Cash (who I adore). I love the vocal delivery. And I love the references to time which is something I never seem to have enough of. For me, another reason why I really dig this tune... Not everyone's going to see and hear this song like I do, but I am confident with where I stand with Battle Scars, so I'm not trying to argue. I just wanted to put those thoughts out there because I think this song is a 10'er.


With A Modern Midnight Conversation (cow bell!!), there is something about the bass, the funky parts that remind me of Denmark (or more like Denmark's much better looking older brother, heh). I liked it on first listen but wasn't entirely sure. For me, this one's the only grower on the album but I do think it's delivery is lush, the song beautifully produced the only way the Chems can do it and it deserves more play than a push on the skip or off button. To me the most beautiful parts come in at around 4:40 where the song breaks off into these... I don't know how to describe it other than... the song breaks into these prisms of sound that conjure up images in my mind of light bursting through stained glass in a cathedral. And there are these illustrious swooshes of sound that play like wind through the trees. The twinkly parts at the very end, as they drift off into hyperspace... I'll say listening to this while star gazing last night brought me closer to this song. "


Whirly - I think that "I don't know how to describe it other than... " and the description that follows is wonderful! I know exactly what u mean, let's just call it "chemical glint" from now. That whole feeling!



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 10:12 AM

To start, I had a thought on my mind.

When I got the album about 10 days back, everyone was touting Burst Generator as the best song on the album.

I still don't completely agree, they are all gems, and I love em all for different reasons, but some toked up listening in a more spaced out setting revealed the true beauty of this song.

I think this is the ideal successor to the private psychedelic reel - it's got the same glint all over the song - it actually could fit in right in the middle of a set taking the set to a fuckin crescendo and bring it back down and build it up again, or with a little bit of tweaking at the end, it could very well be the most beautiful album closer in a long time. I loved Surface to Air, but it was somehow too short, this song is perfect - maybe a longer edit would be all folks need to close the evening on the same psychedelic high as the Reel.


Having said that, I think the way it goes into A Modern Midnight Conversation is amazing - that song like Whirly said is a fucking grower! I LOVE it now, I don't think Slippy's brief mention of the Scissor Sisters in some kinda vague reference to the sound of this song is valid. This is like an evolved Hold Tight London - or an extension, with a bad mean bassline that really kills! Only the Chems can put vocals like this on a song in fuckin 2007, and getaway with not even being remotely cheesy - once the song grew on me, I love the vocals - they'r so beautiful, and the tune is lovely. I LOVE the bassline!


More soon!


(I figured since most of us are busy, and not getting time to write full length "reviews", this'd be a nice place to post random thoughts on a song u'r listening to from the new album and feel like writing about).


I'd love to write again about All Rights Reserved, I already wrote in many threads, I'll come back to it, but it's one of my fav vocals songs on this album - the lyrics are so wonderful, and so's the melody. A brilliant collab. I've had "Undertaking Copyleft for Flying Sideways" as my msn handle for days now!



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 11:17 AM

So I caved today, saw it all over the torrent sites and couldn't resist. Listened to the album once really loud on headphones, and I honestly think it's their best yet. Absolutely love every track. In fact, I think All Rights Reversed is probably the weakest track... Every other track had me with a big grin on my face, totally loving it. It'll probably grow on me though, and I can definitely see it's appeal, the vocals are very cool, and the track itself sounds awesome but it just didn't click straight away (neither did The Test and I fucking love that track now!) And funnily enough, I think A Modern Midnight Conversation is a masterpiece after only 1 listen. Fucking awesome track. Salmon Dance is fucking wicked too, hilariously cool track. And all the rest, Das Speigel, Burst Generator (!!!), We Are The Night (!!!!), Battle Scars.... I really can't do it justice in words, the whole album is just perfect, totally unexpected but exactly what I wanted from a new Chems album. The Gods are better than ever, and they're reminding me what I loved about music in the first place (!!!!!!!!!)




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 12:30 PM

I'm trying to work out what the lyric is in Burst Generator - "it's holding up"?




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 12:33 PM

Even I tried that hearing that part seriously yesterday, but the song kicks in so fast I forgot. Will check today but it is something to that effect.

Btw, apologies for the loads of typos in my earlier posts (damn I wrote reserved instead of reversed again, the irony!), was typing furiously with my boss hovering all around me - heh!


N whirly u mentioned that wind sound - hehe - the Chems ripped Floyd! ;) Just kidding, but that constant wind sound is SO exactly the wind sound Floyd used a lot - a lot of bands have too, it's a regular effect on any keyboard, but it rocks!


N I just saw the fabric thread - damn, there's an extended version of all rights reversed! I SO want!



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 12:44 PM

I'll be quick...I'll probably post more in depth when I've listened to it more and I'm not at work...but All Rights Reversed is FUCKING WICKED. My favourite track on the album. Just fantastic.




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 12:52 PM

For me, they're all outstanding tracks, some hit me hard at first listen, some needs a bit of growing time...That's the way I think a perfect album should be.

I think the intro is awesome, it's like a beast is coming to eat you up, makes me a little nervous in the best possible way, like waiting for the chems to come on for a live set, you think they will open the coming sets with "No Path to Follow"?

The following title track is just a real banger, I almost couldn't breath when it kicked in the first time a heard it, wicked!

I haven't seen so much discussion about "The Pills Won't Help You Now". I can't believe how good this song ends the album, the vocals are incredible and I love how it picks up the pace towards the end, beautiful!


Also, does anyone else find Willy Masons voice a little similar to the voice of Interpol's Daniel Kessler? Maybe even more Johnny Cash as whirly said though...




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 1:19 PM

I love the build up of burst generator, from the first couple of bars you can tell it's going to be epic.


1:40 in, the way it just climbs is awesome, killer beat.


advice to others though, to hear this album at its best you need a system thats got a nice amount of bass, the laptop speakers just dont do it justice, whereas through my home stereo it sounds sooooo much better.


Letdown for me is the intro to the album, think it could of been better.


The way that We are the night starts reminds me of The Sunshine Underground, love all the little electronic robotic noises on the build up.


All Rights Reversed, wasn't too sure about it the first play, now after the 4th/5th time i'm feeling it a hell of a lot more, possibly enough to say its the best vocal collaboration on the album.


Saturate, don't really need to explain how I feel about this, loved EBW 8 over 9 so glad to see its inclusion on the album, the edit I feel is superior to the longer EBW version (could just be my short attention span lol)


Do It Again - although its getting a fair bit of negativety, it's been played to a fair few of my friends who are not hardcore chems fans and its gone down very well, maybe its just people drawing too much from their old material that is stopping this from being approached as it should be.


Das Spiegel - loved it when Colin Murray played it, though his voice irritated me and he talked halfway through it, in high quality the tune is 10x better - rate it highly


Salmon Dance - deffo marmite, hardly anyone seems to get it, as said before the gf thinks its crap, but I love it, does raise a few eyebrows though!


Modern Midnight Conversation - can't explain it, shouldn't like it but I do, not an easy one to talk about, can listen to it loads but don't know what to make of it. Deffo a grower....


Battle Scars - I hold this up high along with the Pills wont help you know. Both collaborations are amazing, but still feel All Rights Reversed is the better of the 3. The Pills wont help you know is definently the best song to put at the end of the album, and draws the album to a close nicely.


Overall, i'd rate this higher than PTB, but I didn't really rate it to be fair, only liked 3-4 of the tracks, thought it was weak, whereas this is deffo a return to form :)




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 1:50 PM

PTB Rocked hard! Like all other Chems! It's just not fair to badmouth it now since this album is IN and HOT with all of us right now! Drat!

And Adam - those sounds are from the Sunshine Underground! :)



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 2:56 PM

Aww, thanks for the kind words, Jack!! I could talk and post a mile a minute about this album. I love it so much. I have a lot to say and want to get some more thoughts up, that is for sure. I'm finding it hard to verbalize on these songs and put them in writing because I've got a million and one thoughts going through my head all at once!




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 3:00 PM

"A Modern Midnight Conversation" is fucking awesome Is like The Chemical Brothers fucking Daft Punk in the pooper, the last part of the song when the wall of sound is maximized it's INSANE.


"Burst Generator" well people know I have been so obsessed with this!! :D




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 3:15 PM

Let's hear it for the title track!

I've said a lot already - but I think it's gonna be one helluva live opener - straight fuckin shot thru the chemical cannon into hyperspace at the speed of light! I LOVE the intro - i hope they make it more badass live, before they kick into We Are The Night - everyone's heart's gonna explode, and then it's gonna kick in that they'r hearing/ witnessing this live finally - I can't imagine the smiles!

WHAT A MOTHERFUCKER OF A TRACK!! A fuckin powerful tornado! Come With Us was my fav opener till now as far as powerful badass openers go, because of similiar effects, but this also right up there, and like fucking fast - it dont give u time and has u flying right away!


I miss BIG drums a wee bit on this album, except of course those thundering monsters on Saturate, - hope they put in big drums on burst generator live, pull it into 20 mins - it's seriously the new reel. The perfect show closer.


mX - chems fuckin the punks? Kamon! They'r light years ahead to even warrant a try! Punks are fun, but human after all.



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 3:26 PM

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 3:30 PM

I also love the mix from Burst Generator to Modern Midnight Conversation....15 seconds from the end of BG I was like 'C'MON!!!'




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 3:32 PM

yes! That was one of the better parts. I still love the salmon dance. Just everything about that songs makes me feel great!



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 4:04 PM

Is this intro someway related to sneakers youtube flick? Or is it just an opener for their live tours? Because I fucking love what I heard from it so far.



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Posted 21 May 2007 - 4:20 PM

I just had a really crazy idea of Burst Generator and TPPR mixed togethor in the new live show 0.o;; I actually think the show would be better if they were seperate on second thought.

Someone mentioned a mix of EBW 8 and 9 and that sounds like it would be wicked! Maybe something like those EBW9 sirens and whispers interspersed within 7 would be so amazing!


The start of WATN I love because it not only has the Sunshine Underground synth, but it has some parts from Enjoyed and I think a wee bit of Under the Influence synths too!


Well, my brain is about to shut down from all the awesomeness and lack of sleep, but I want to say that I really like A Modern Midnight Conversation, Battle Scars, and WATN. The only grower for me is All Rights Reversed, which took me a few listens to get.


OH! Does anybody else hear a really distorted "Rock Lobster" sample from the B-52 song in WATN? :D Anyone?!




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 4:50 PM

Just a notice,


Everybody who prematurely discusses the album before it's release date will be banned from this forum.


I hope this message is clear?


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Posted 21 May 2007 - 5:00 PM

That's quite a change of opinion from the "chemical txt" on the homepage:


"If you've heard album feel free to express yourselves..just didn't want links"


Who do we believe?




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Posted 21 May 2007 - 5:02 PM

Fuck off forumadmin. We'll send slipvin after ya if u'r seen around again.



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