HA ha that scene has to go down in comedy history, i've never seen so many people crying with laughter in a cinema my face was aching after that scene great film X-D

I hear the Kazakhstani government aren't too pleased with Borat...some people say they're more interested in filing lawsuits against Sasha Cohen than sorting out their country's own problems!!

I want to see Borat ! But it's not out yet here... Is it really good ?

Ben_j Escribi�:

Is it really good ?

Man, it's absolutely incredible.

Ok I just watched American Psycho and I don't know what the fuck happened :?

Cop-out ending for the flick. I loved the book, American Psycho, but they blew it in the film.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Cop-out ending for the flick. I loved the book, American Psycho, but they blew it in the film.

I believed I watched it upon your recommendation. I thought the film was well directed, and Christian Bale acted brilliantly! I am just a little confused as to what occured. Please help a dumb bastard out.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Cop-out ending for the flick. I loved the book, American Psycho, but they blew it in the film.

Disagree. The movie isn't as good as the book (very few are) but is still a fine distillation and visual representation of many of the key points. Most of the performances are very good (Bale's in particular) and the screenplay does a good job of taking a book that is probably beyond an NC-17 rating and making it R-rated without losing the wit, verve, and edge that made the book excellent in the first place.



The soundtrack was finely selected and the implementation of the album "reviews" was not chopped (very important, as I feel that they are the three most important chapters of the book). Homages to things like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre were retained from the book, and I feel that many of Ellis' touchstones were likewise retained.



It is, perhaps, "American Psycho Lite", but is still a satisfying movie, particularly if you have not read the book first. (I read the book afterwards on the basis of liking the movie, and definetly prefer the book, but the movie still holds up reasonably well for me.)



[Have you read any of his other work, 'stash? I've read everything now except The Rules of Attraction (though I own the movie, which also seems a "lite" version) and The Informers. Really like Ellis, even if he is one of the most pretentious and perhaps most vacuous authors I've read.]



On another note, I think I'm going to see Borat tonight. Can't wait.

Just re-read your post, 'stash, and noticed it was the ending in particular you criticized as a cop-out. I don't see anything significantly different in susbtance b/w book and movie in the ending. Enlighten me?



(And I thought the "This Is Not An Exit" sign at Harry's was particular class. A great reference to the novel's conclusion.)

Borat was outstanding. Go see it.

Unless you're terribly homophobic. I think I saw some people throwing up. Aside from that, great film!

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Just re-read your post, 'stash, and noticed it was the ending in particular you criticized as a cop-out. I don't see anything significantly different in susbtance b/w book and movie in the ending. Enlighten me?



(And I thought the "This Is Not An Exit" sign at Harry's was particular class. A great reference to the novel's conclusion.)

In the movie, it was all a dream or hallucination or whatnot.



In the book, he was really killing a whole lotta people.



I think... I haven't read it in ages. Didn't he really kill them in the book?

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Just re-read your post, 'stash, and noticed it was the ending in particular you criticized as a cop-out. I don't see anything significantly different in susbtance b/w book and movie in the ending. Enlighten me?



(And I thought the "This Is Not An Exit" sign at Harry's was particular class. A great reference to the novel's conclusion.)

In the movie, it was all a dream or hallucination or whatnot.



In the book, he was really killing a whole lotta people.



I think... I haven't read it in ages. Didn't he really kill them in the book?

It was all in his head. Book and film.

I stand corrected then.



I was probably just hoping he'd really killed all them all.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

I stand corrected then.



I was probably just hoping he'd really killed all them all.

In all fairness, the book is pretty ambiguous about it (a little bit more so than the movie, although the movie still leaves a bit to the imagination). Ellis himself has admitted in interviews that Bateman does not really commit the acts described, although this could simply be a defense against all the criticism he received for the novel.



What I find fascinating about the novel (and indeed, one of my favourite things to look for in novels and stories) is how the first-person perspective colludes with an unreliable narrator to skew our view of reality. We can never know what is actually happening in the storyworld. When reading first-person, we have to take a Lockean view that what we perceive is reality, but, in American Psycho in particular, there are accelerating signs that the narrator is becoming increasingly unhinged and unreliable as the novel continues.



[This is also at the centerpoint of Ellis' followup, Glamorama, which is another great read. Charlotte Perkins Gilman's 1899 short story 'The Yellow Wallpaper' is another great example. Irvine Welsh frequently deals with similar issues of identity and narration and, in the cases of Trainspotting and Glue (his best novel, in my opinion) in particular, we are often presented the same events through another character's perspective, thus exposing the flaws in trusting that which we see.



The sense of disorientation and confusion created by such works provokes in me many of the same feelings and excitement that are caused by drugs and alcohol, hallucinogens in particular. Reality is not to be trusted, but what else is there?]



I do think the novel is more powerful, although perhaps less satisfying, if he does not commit them.

I no longer love Pamela........................ Not!!



Borat!

ACIDCHILDREN Escribi�:

I no longer love Pamela........................ Not!!



Borat!

bwahahahahaha!



Great post to follow my pseudo-intellectual drivel! Cheers, ACID! X-D



This is my sister. Is number four prostitute in all Kazakhstan!

I tell ya, you can't have a piss without someone doing a Borat impression. It's a shame in a way, it was cool when he was just mine and my friends, same with Bo Selecta. Once the sheep latch onto it loses it's greatness :'(

iguanapunk Escribi�:

I tell ya, you can't have a piss without someone doing a Borat impression. It's a shame in a way, it was cool when he was just mine and my friends, same with Bo Selecta. Once the sheep latch onto it loses it's greatness :'(

Understand how you feel. On the other hand, it's great to have bragging rights that you were into it first and you can take the posh, stuck-up "I've moved onto something better" attitude. It's nice.

fuck, I gotta see this movie.