Biff, on 23 June 2010 - 02:34 PM, said:

Well, I'm talking out of my ass about Out Of Control live. I've only heard recordings of it so I wouldn't know what it's like actually being there. I'm just thinking in regards to the 45 minute set after Further for 2010. They obviously had to cut a lot out of their usual set to accommodate Further, and they could've chopped OOC instead of Star Guitar, The Sunshine Underground, Surface To Air, Burst Generator, The Golden Path, which all rocked their sets before. I'm just unhappy that OOC was kept while each of the above tracks were cut.

But they'll be back in the 2011 set for sure .

Again, I've yet to see them live so I've got no way of knowing what it feels like. Hopefully I can make it to the Chicago show (that bass around the feet thing sounds cool).

brother_ging, on 23 June 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

What's new this time?

OOC will make sense live. In fact mist chem song that anyone might not call their favorite can be put into place live.

I think often times the reason we might not like songs is that we haven't put them into the appropriate context, or the ones the artist intended to.

I've never really liked Pioneer Skies or Left Right, there I've said it!

Oh and I prefer most of the B-sides more then some actual album tracks..... that is all

I also like to confess that I haven't listened to Push the Button in a long time

I know it must seem like I am always 999% in agreement with every tiny thing the chems do but - even go so far as to applaud them eating breakfast or whatever - but there are songs that aren't my favorites etc. Maybe I'll come back to this thread when I feel like ranting or complaining :p But I wanted to expand on the whole Out Of Control live thing that's being talked about. I've heard this played in their sets since 1999 and it always goes off a storm, it's a crowd pleaser, and by now is considered a classic live set staple, and it has varied live over the years. It's also a track Tom and Ed are immensely proud of, so it's become a bit of a tradition to keep it in their sets. The bass is killer, it really does feel like a sonic ripple swelling at your feet when it drops. All the bootlegs in the world can't convey this feeling and this sound. But if you haven't seen the Chems live and booties are all you have to go by - I can see how a song like that... It just doesn't go well with a bad recording. So from that angle, I can understand.

Anyway, what these criticisms of Out Of Control remind me of are me and my criticisms of the We Are The Night tour. I heard a bootleg of one of the German shows, before I got a chance to catch the Chems live. I did not like the transition to Believe at all!! I thought it sounded weird and discordant, and I made that very clear during the early talks about their set lists. Jacksrevenge called me on that and said I'd be sorry for what I said.

And sure enough, a few months later, I was eating those words because the transition to Believe was so much larger in real life than those poor quality recordings portrayed. (and it's because of that, why I won't listen to bootlegs or YouTube prior to when I see them - I kind of want to keep the live experience this time around as pure as I can, like when I first saw them the Chems in 1999 I had no expectations, heard no bootlegs, saw no video clips)

I hope you get a chance to see em, WhiteNoise - no matter what you'll be blown away for sure :D

in my opinion there are no bad CB tracks, there are just a few tracks where my vision of music is to narrow to get it. some tracks i really disliked in the first place became my favorites over the years.

right now i'm not getting Pioneer Skies...

I don't think OOC should be removed from their live sets! it's almost everyone's top favorite track & the crowd always goes nuts with that track...but if the Chemical Brothers wanted something "different" then I think Enjoyed would be a good track to play. can't really complain about the rest of their tracks they're all brilliant..they each have something special. There are very few that are just ok. Like Igorchete said the Left Right intrusmetal wouldnt have been too bad but the lyrics killed it, I think the same goes for Keep My Composure.
I haven't seem the CBs live yet but I had a similar experience just like Whirlygirl. Delik & The Duke were one of the first "rare/less popular" tracks that I listened to and I would just hate them because they sounded weird ( I was more used to the Hey Boy Hey Girl & OOC sounds if you know what I mean) but eventually I started liking them and now they're some of my favorites.

ChemicalRudy, on 24 June 2010 - 03:12 PM, said:

I can't listen to the start of Keep My Composure "Spank rock and the Chemists" makes me cringe, the rest of the track is fine though.

I also can't say anything bad about the live shows (especially OOC, BRING IT!!) but back in 2008 some people said it went "a little strange there" during the middle of the set, I'm guessing this is because they weren't huge fans and hadn't heard EBW7, nude night or some of the other crazy instrumentals before the gig.

Lastly, I not really complaining here but I get way too overwhelmed listening to "Close your Eyes". So overwhelmed I don't know what to do with myself so I've sadly had to remove it from my regular Chems Playlist. How lame seriously is that!

kwiddle, on 24 June 2010 - 07:41 AM, said:

Same.
TPPR live, Saturate and Close your Eyes are the songs that captivate and overwhelm me the most.
By the way, anyone else thinks live version of TPPR is 10x better than the album version. Especially with the prolonged break at the middle, that's pure awesome.

since about 3 months after WATN came out, I skipped the salmon dance purely because I heard more crappy remixes of it
and silly teenagers at the shows clambering for front row just for that and it kind of ruined it for me.

But the last time I played the album I left it on and was surprised, I kind of forgot about the weird bendy synths in the chorus.
made me smile like the first time I heard it.

anyway point is, The Salmon Dance is just on the good side of OK as opposed to great like everything else.

That's my grievances for now.
Ill get back here if anything else crops up.

kwiddle, on 24 June 2010 - 03:50 AM, said:

What a lot of different views of particular songs. Pioneer Skies is one of my favourite Chems songs together with Dream On (with the guitar follow up secret track). They leave me with a kind of euphoric high feeling.

I dislike the bad quality of live tracks released to this point. Believe, Live '05 aren't the finest quality or edited in the best way. There were better versions of the Big Junp during the Push tour then the one on Live '05.
Elektrobank and Piku/Playground on the Singles disc 2 are much better.

And I don't like missing out on the good stuff because I don't live in the UK. Seeing the Chems performing live with Tim and Beth at the Roundhouse, or Close your eyes with the Magic Numbers or Bernard on guitar on stage with OOC. Going through all the hassle to get a Sunday Times cd, missing out on the Guardian cd with Otter Rock, you know stuff like that IT PISSES ME OF!!!

(no worries Tom and Ed, still love ya )

edit: P.S. I hate still not having Surrender 3 LP promo

Now that I had experienced all the Further material, I must say I´m a little bit disappointed with all the visuals thing. They´re beatiful and very well done, and I´m pretty sure they will work perfectly in live sets.

But, as a addicted to music vids, I wished to see videos as great as Galvanize, Believe or all the others they made over the years. I mean, individual videos with an own narrative. That´s only my opinion.

letittakeyoutothestars, on 24 June 2010 - 12:01 PM, said:

Salmon Dance is OK, a fun track by the Chems.
But i really hate it's commercial success and everyone not knowing the Chems judging them only by that song and Do It Again.

Ah yes, The Salmon Dance. On its own I like it, but as an album track it stands out like a shark fin and ruins the whole flow of the album. Should have been a b-side or just a single release imo.

It's always the fun, simple songs that attract mainstream attention. In defense of salmon and their dance, I've gotten a few friends hooked on the chems with that song. They first heard it, it became and still is this inside joke, they bought watn and loved it... And now when I call them that funky riff of the song is the ringtone. fin

kwiddle, on 23 June 2010 - 09:41 PM, said:

nude night is pretty cool. me tooo I don't listen to Close Your Eyes that often.

igorchete, on 24 June 2010 - 01:21 AM, said:

shyeah! The live version of TPPR is mind blowing..all sounds that they add & the echoes at the end of each little break & the ending just melts my brain!

igorchete, on 24 June 2010 - 09:15 AM, said:

I concur with this sentiment... maybe. In a way I'm happy the the Chems did something that broke out of their normal audience by creating something so weird that it caught the imaginations of a wide audience.
But it does annoy me that if anyone here knows the chemical brothers in Oklahoma, what they really mean is that they know Sammy. It gets my hopes up for a second too long before I find out what they really know and like.

no complaints my end at all. i love every note the chems have put out - yes it's weird, but there's not a single chems song i don't like - everything falls into the bigger picture on the album experience. I love Left Right also a lot. Mad aggressive energy on that song - nothing like the Chems regular stuff. Maybe like Salmon Dance a wee bit less now. Love almost all singles, b-sides, remixes, live sets, dj sets, damn!!

my only crib is it should not cost me $100 for just delivery from the chems shop - there should be some regional stocking and tie-ups - i've never owned a single chems tee or other merchandise - if I could avoid paying that huge amount for delivery, I'd go buy the whole shop now.

JacksRevenge, on 25 June 2010 - 05:47 PM, said:

I am in Aus and ordered 3 T-Shirts, the lithograph and a few sets of stickers. Postage was £18.00, still a little expensive but worth paying.

I hate three things... I hate that they don't play Vegas. All the US gigs are too far away. I can't take the time off work and pay travel plus tickets.

My second rant is I'm really tired of having to buy albums twice to get bonus songs. I'm sick to death of Itunes deals. I bought "we are the night" three times to get the extra tracks. And now I've paid for "Further" twice to get "don't think". For fans who really support the band, I wish they'd give us the option of buying these single tracks directly instead of making deals with Itunes to rob our pocketbooks. It's like punishing people who want to actually own a copy of the cd. Another option is to bundle the package. Wendy & Lisa did it with their last album. You bought the Itunes for the extra cuts and they automatically sent you a copy of the cd when it came out.

Finally, I miss cd singles. I miss the artwork and having that disc to hold.