One time I used LSD.
It was a good trip.
Bit weird though.
But after that I never had the urge to use it again.
Because I felt that it was something for one time usage only.
So I believe that LSD isn't an addictive drug.
Is the K trip similiar to the trip of LSD?
And is it addictive?
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Posted 10 March 2004 - 5:45 PM
An acid trip is a world apart from a k experience. Acid distorts reality (or enhances it, however you want to perceive it) - you often see things that aren't really happening, like the typical walls breathing and things "melting" and stuff like that, and you're awake and aware of what's going on even though your reality is twisted. For some people it can be a religious experience. I agree it's not addictive physically. Psychologically may be a different story but I've never craved it emotionally or physically for that matter and never met anyone who did.
k is different, unique according to the individual *then again, that's how lots of drugs work including pot or drinking. You can do "bumps" which kind of make you feel drunk if anything, while remaining relatively upright and awake and aware. When you take a larger trip dose that's where it's possible to slip into a sort of alternate reality where you are not aware of your natural surroundings. Really, it's more a subconscious experience that's incredibly hard to explain without sounding like a complete nut job... but the closest thing I can think of is that's it's kind of like lucid dreaming almost - but your perception is that what's happening is really happening - really taking a trip into your subconsciousness. And that's the part that is frightening to a lot of people who've experienced it. The trip is a lot shorter than acid but like acid, your perception of time is completely wacked so it feels like forever. k is also physically and psychologically addictive, and of course there are the risks that come with any shit you put into your body.
k is not something I recommend to anyone, as there are real risks here and it's not my mission to advocate drugs like some gutter evangelist - but I'll be open about it. All I'll say is that I've bumped k a couple of times and fell into the hole 2wice, each experience was different but in my case, a good experience each time. It's all how you are going into it.
k is different, unique according to the individual *then again, that's how lots of drugs work including pot or drinking. You can do "bumps" which kind of make you feel drunk if anything, while remaining relatively upright and awake and aware. When you take a larger trip dose that's where it's possible to slip into a sort of alternate reality where you are not aware of your natural surroundings. Really, it's more a subconscious experience that's incredibly hard to explain without sounding like a complete nut job... but the closest thing I can think of is that's it's kind of like lucid dreaming almost - but your perception is that what's happening is really happening - really taking a trip into your subconsciousness. And that's the part that is frightening to a lot of people who've experienced it. The trip is a lot shorter than acid but like acid, your perception of time is completely wacked so it feels like forever. k is also physically and psychologically addictive, and of course there are the risks that come with any shit you put into your body.
k is not something I recommend to anyone, as there are real risks here and it's not my mission to advocate drugs like some gutter evangelist - but I'll be open about it. All I'll say is that I've bumped k a couple of times and fell into the hole 2wice, each experience was different but in my case, a good experience each time. It's all how you are going into it.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 10:15 AM
@ Whirly: Thanks for the info.
Now I know what kind of stuff it is.
My Druggy days I left behind me.
So I probably won't be using it.
Although I always liked to use.
The only drug that I still use alcohol.
But that is a socially accepted Hard drug.
So that's oke to use. ;-)
Now I know what kind of stuff it is.
My Druggy days I left behind me.
So I probably won't be using it.
Although I always liked to use.
The only drug that I still use alcohol.
But that is a socially accepted Hard drug.
So that's oke to use. ;-)
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 6:09 PM
I think in all the other sthe K is just part of the spelling but you will prob find that the K referes to Ketamine - users oftern refer to being in a K-hole- Imagine very strong tranquilizers (its used by vets for horses).
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 6:17 PM
Sorry about the repetition not paying enough attention - the odd ting I would say about Ketamine though is its affect on Hard House nuts - Instead of the normal stuck to a wall affect they dance like mad, oddness prevails.
As an extra Ketamine is generally cleanin my experince but quality can vary depending on who 'cooked' it up (which is exceptionally easy - you just have to watch you dont over cook it.
As an extra Ketamine is generally cleanin my experince but quality can vary depending on who 'cooked' it up (which is exceptionally easy - you just have to watch you dont over cook it.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 6:22 PM
so much shit is happening around the world and all we wanna talk about is drugs }:-@
At least 182 killed in Madrid train explosions
Spain blames attack on Basques; U.S. wonders about al-Qaida link
Kai Pfaffenbach / Reuters
Spanish forensic experts inspect the bodies of victims of an explosion on a train outside Madrid's Atocha station Thursday.
? Deadly bombing in Madrid
March 11: Scores are dead after explosions in Madrid. NBC's Dawna Friesen reports.
Today show
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 12:19 p.m. ET March 11, 2004MADRID, Spain - Ten powerful explosions tore through trains and train stations in Madrid on Thursday just days before Spain's general elections, leaving at least 182 people dead and 900 injured.
Spain blamed the Basque separatist group ETA for the worst terror attack in its history, but a senior U.S. intelligence source told NBC News that that conclusion might be wrong and that the CIA was looking for any connection to the al-Qaida terrorist network.
Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar called the attacks "mass murder" and vowed to hunt down the attackers.
A total of 10 bombs exploded, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said. Police found and detonated three more.
?ETA had been looking for a massacre in Spain,? Acebes said, citing recent thwarted attacks. ?Unfortunately, today it achieved its goal.?
? Terrorist bombs rock Madrid
At least two bombs exploded around 7:30 a.m. local time in a commuter train arriving at Atocha station, a bustling hub for subway, commuter and long-distance trains. Blasts rocked two other stops on a commuter line leading to Atocha.
Worst hit was a double-decker train at the El Pozo station, where two bombs killed 70 people, fire department inspector Juan Redondo said.
Rescue workers carried away bodies covered in sheets of shiny gold fabric. People with bloodied faces sat on curbs, using cell phones to tell others they were alive. Hospitals appealed for people to come in and donate blood. Buses had to be pressed into service as ambulances.
People in tears streamed away from the Atocha station in droves.
"I saw many things explode in the air, I don't know, it was horrible," said Juani Fernandez, a civil servant who was on the platform waiting to go to work.
"People started to scream and run, some bumping into each other and as we ran there was another explosion. I saw people with blood pouring from them, people on the ground."
Officials blame ETA
'The modus operandi, the high number of victims and the way it was carried out make me think ... that yes it may have been an operative cell from the Arab resistance.'
? Arnold Otegi
Leader of an outlawed Basque party linked to ETA
There was no claim of responsibility, but government ministers blamed the explosions on ETA, which is branded by the United States and the European Union as a terrorist organization.
The Interior Ministry said following tests that the explosives used in the blasts were a kind of dynamite that ETA normally uses.
However, the leader of an outlawed Basque party linked to the separatist group denied the deadly explosions were the work of ETA and he suggested "Arab resistance" elements were responsible, the Spanish news agency EFE reported.
Arnold Otegi told Radio Popular that ETA always phones in warnings before it attacks, EFE said. Acebes said earlier there was no warning before Thursday's attack.
"The modus operandi, the high number of victims and the way it was carried out make me think, and I have a hypothesis in mind, that yes it may have been an operative cell from the Arab resistance," Otegi said.
Al-Qaida?
British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw declined to speculate when asked if the militant group al-Qaida, blamed for similar simultaneous bombing attacks against British interests in Turkey in November, was responsible.
Britain and Spain were leading allies in last year?s U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC's Andrea Mitchell that the CIA still does not know who is responsible and that it is "still subject to great debate and confusion" in the counter-terrorism community.
Factors pointing toward some kind of al-Qaida link include: the scale of the attack; the lack of anyone taking credit; the simultaneity of the multiple attacks; and the fact that on his last tape, Ayman al-Zawahiri, a senior al-Qaida figure, said Spain and other Iraq coalition members would be targeted.
The U.S. official said Spain has been contacted about any forensics they may have and to see if there are any post-attack communications, such as congratulatory calls or people backing away from the attacks.
Euskadi ta Askatasuna (ETA) is fighting for an independent Basque state in northern Spain and southwestern France.
The group has killed nearly 850 people since 1968, typically using car bombs or shootings. The number of ETA killings had been falling, from 23 in 2000 to three in 2003.
Spain, the United States and the European Union have listed ETA as a terrorist organization. Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, who survived an ETA attack while he was opposition leader in 1995, made eliminating the group a top priority.
In 2002 the Spanish government banned the Basque political party Batasuna, which it described as ETA?s political wing. The party denied the charge. Batasuna won 10 percent of the vote in Basque parliamentary elections in May 2001.
ETA has been under pressure in recent years with 179 suspected members detained during 2003 and a total of 650 suspects arrested since 2000, mostly in Spain and France.
ETA has killed around 850 people since 1968 in its fight for Basque independence and has been a looming presence in the run-up to the Spanish elections as well as a focus for politicians vowing to take a tough line with the guerrilla group.
If ETA is found responsible, it would be the worst attack ever by the group, exceeding the 21 killed in a supermarket blast in Barcelona in 1987.
The government convened anti-ETA rallies nationwide for Friday evening.
"What a horror," said the Basque regional president, Juan Jose Ibarretxe, who insisted ETA does not represent the Basque people.
"When ETA attacks, the Basque heart breaks into a thousand pieces," he said in the Basque capital Vitoria.
"This is one of those days that you don't want to live through," said opposition Socialist party spokesman Jesus Caldera. "ETA must be defeated," referring to the group as "those terrorists, those animals."
High alert ahead of elections
'The scene I am seeing is hellish. People running toward Atocha however they can.'
Woman who lives near the line leading to Atocha.
Police had been on high alert for Basque separatist violence ahead of general elections Sunday, in which regional tensions and how to fight ETA have been key themes. Mariano Rajoy, the candidate for prime minister of the ruling conservative Popular Party, said he was calling off the rest of his campaign. Madrid blasts
? Latest developments
? 'War zone' in city
? World condemnation
? ETA timeline
On Feb. 29, police intercepted a Madrid-bound van packed with more than 1,100 pounds of explosives, and blamed ETA. On Christmas Eve, police thwarted an attempted bombing at Chamartin, another Madrid rail station, and arrested two suspected ETA members.
A woman who lives near the El Pozo station on the line leading to Atocha said "the scene I am seeing is hellish. People running toward Atocha however they can."
The woman said she saw a boy or young man on the ground who appeared to have died. "I can see people inside the remains of the train," the unidentified woman told Spanish National Radio.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
At least 182 killed in Madrid train explosions
Spain blames attack on Basques; U.S. wonders about al-Qaida link
Kai Pfaffenbach / Reuters
Spanish forensic experts inspect the bodies of victims of an explosion on a train outside Madrid's Atocha station Thursday.
? Deadly bombing in Madrid
March 11: Scores are dead after explosions in Madrid. NBC's Dawna Friesen reports.
Today show
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 12:19 p.m. ET March 11, 2004MADRID, Spain - Ten powerful explosions tore through trains and train stations in Madrid on Thursday just days before Spain's general elections, leaving at least 182 people dead and 900 injured.
Spain blamed the Basque separatist group ETA for the worst terror attack in its history, but a senior U.S. intelligence source told NBC News that that conclusion might be wrong and that the CIA was looking for any connection to the al-Qaida terrorist network.
Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar called the attacks "mass murder" and vowed to hunt down the attackers.
A total of 10 bombs exploded, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said. Police found and detonated three more.
?ETA had been looking for a massacre in Spain,? Acebes said, citing recent thwarted attacks. ?Unfortunately, today it achieved its goal.?
? Terrorist bombs rock Madrid
At least two bombs exploded around 7:30 a.m. local time in a commuter train arriving at Atocha station, a bustling hub for subway, commuter and long-distance trains. Blasts rocked two other stops on a commuter line leading to Atocha.
Worst hit was a double-decker train at the El Pozo station, where two bombs killed 70 people, fire department inspector Juan Redondo said.
Rescue workers carried away bodies covered in sheets of shiny gold fabric. People with bloodied faces sat on curbs, using cell phones to tell others they were alive. Hospitals appealed for people to come in and donate blood. Buses had to be pressed into service as ambulances.
People in tears streamed away from the Atocha station in droves.
"I saw many things explode in the air, I don't know, it was horrible," said Juani Fernandez, a civil servant who was on the platform waiting to go to work.
"People started to scream and run, some bumping into each other and as we ran there was another explosion. I saw people with blood pouring from them, people on the ground."
Officials blame ETA
'The modus operandi, the high number of victims and the way it was carried out make me think ... that yes it may have been an operative cell from the Arab resistance.'
? Arnold Otegi
Leader of an outlawed Basque party linked to ETA
There was no claim of responsibility, but government ministers blamed the explosions on ETA, which is branded by the United States and the European Union as a terrorist organization.
The Interior Ministry said following tests that the explosives used in the blasts were a kind of dynamite that ETA normally uses.
However, the leader of an outlawed Basque party linked to the separatist group denied the deadly explosions were the work of ETA and he suggested "Arab resistance" elements were responsible, the Spanish news agency EFE reported.
Arnold Otegi told Radio Popular that ETA always phones in warnings before it attacks, EFE said. Acebes said earlier there was no warning before Thursday's attack.
"The modus operandi, the high number of victims and the way it was carried out make me think, and I have a hypothesis in mind, that yes it may have been an operative cell from the Arab resistance," Otegi said.
Al-Qaida?
British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw declined to speculate when asked if the militant group al-Qaida, blamed for similar simultaneous bombing attacks against British interests in Turkey in November, was responsible.
Britain and Spain were leading allies in last year?s U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC's Andrea Mitchell that the CIA still does not know who is responsible and that it is "still subject to great debate and confusion" in the counter-terrorism community.
Factors pointing toward some kind of al-Qaida link include: the scale of the attack; the lack of anyone taking credit; the simultaneity of the multiple attacks; and the fact that on his last tape, Ayman al-Zawahiri, a senior al-Qaida figure, said Spain and other Iraq coalition members would be targeted.
The U.S. official said Spain has been contacted about any forensics they may have and to see if there are any post-attack communications, such as congratulatory calls or people backing away from the attacks.
Euskadi ta Askatasuna (ETA) is fighting for an independent Basque state in northern Spain and southwestern France.
The group has killed nearly 850 people since 1968, typically using car bombs or shootings. The number of ETA killings had been falling, from 23 in 2000 to three in 2003.
Spain, the United States and the European Union have listed ETA as a terrorist organization. Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, who survived an ETA attack while he was opposition leader in 1995, made eliminating the group a top priority.
In 2002 the Spanish government banned the Basque political party Batasuna, which it described as ETA?s political wing. The party denied the charge. Batasuna won 10 percent of the vote in Basque parliamentary elections in May 2001.
ETA has been under pressure in recent years with 179 suspected members detained during 2003 and a total of 650 suspects arrested since 2000, mostly in Spain and France.
ETA has killed around 850 people since 1968 in its fight for Basque independence and has been a looming presence in the run-up to the Spanish elections as well as a focus for politicians vowing to take a tough line with the guerrilla group.
If ETA is found responsible, it would be the worst attack ever by the group, exceeding the 21 killed in a supermarket blast in Barcelona in 1987.
The government convened anti-ETA rallies nationwide for Friday evening.
"What a horror," said the Basque regional president, Juan Jose Ibarretxe, who insisted ETA does not represent the Basque people.
"When ETA attacks, the Basque heart breaks into a thousand pieces," he said in the Basque capital Vitoria.
"This is one of those days that you don't want to live through," said opposition Socialist party spokesman Jesus Caldera. "ETA must be defeated," referring to the group as "those terrorists, those animals."
High alert ahead of elections
'The scene I am seeing is hellish. People running toward Atocha however they can.'
Woman who lives near the line leading to Atocha.
Police had been on high alert for Basque separatist violence ahead of general elections Sunday, in which regional tensions and how to fight ETA have been key themes. Mariano Rajoy, the candidate for prime minister of the ruling conservative Popular Party, said he was calling off the rest of his campaign. Madrid blasts
? Latest developments
? 'War zone' in city
? World condemnation
? ETA timeline
On Feb. 29, police intercepted a Madrid-bound van packed with more than 1,100 pounds of explosives, and blamed ETA. On Christmas Eve, police thwarted an attempted bombing at Chamartin, another Madrid rail station, and arrested two suspected ETA members.
A woman who lives near the El Pozo station on the line leading to Atocha said "the scene I am seeing is hellish. People running toward Atocha however they can."
The woman said she saw a boy or young man on the ground who appeared to have died. "I can see people inside the remains of the train," the unidentified woman told Spanish National Radio.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 6:23 PM
What are you doing! You're as bad as those people who hang around playgrounds selling crack to the kids.
Glako-Fahn gonna read that and start taking /making it, and he's only a kid.
They start so young these days
Glako-Fahn gonna read that and start taking /making it, and he's only a kid.
They start so young these days
