What is the best program for an starter to make music.. and not to expensive.

Reason. Started useing Ableton its really good.

FruityLoops is very user friendly and easy to understand, Ableton Live 5 has a perfect tutorial.

I'd say Reason because It has everything you need to make music with right away. Don't buy bare sequencer software because it's intended to be used recording real synths or virtual ones (which will cost you extra $$$).

If you don't own any synths, Reason just owns things. Check the tune in my sig (made in Reason).



If I've conviced you and you're a student in the US, buy from here: http://www.academicsuperstore.com/

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

I'd say Reason because It has everything you need to make music with right away. Don't buy bare sequencer software because it's intended to be used recording real synths or virtual ones (which will cost you extra $$$).

If you don't own any synths, Reason just owns things. Check the tune in my sig (made in Reason).



If I've conviced you and you're a student in the US, buy from here: http://www.academicsuperstore.com/

Did you really BUY it ?

Did I say I did?

;-)

It's worth it either way, though. If I hadn't bought FruityLoops, I definitely would have bought it, but I never use FL either way, so I just consider the software pricing bastards all one being who have already taken my money, so I'm allowed to pirate all the software I want.

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

Don't buy bare sequencer software because it's intended to be used recording real synths or virtual ones (which will cost you extra $$$)

Sorry mate, that just isn't true. All the main sequencers (Cubase, Logic, Ableton) come with at least 1 synth, and there are literally millions of free synths & plugins out there available for download.



That said, I've used FL Studio a little bit, and it is dead easy to use, plus the synths that come with it rock! 8)



Seeing as you can now get a version of Cubase for �70-�100, and Reason costs �200-�250, as does Ableton, if I was just starting it would be Cubase all the way

$200 dollars for Reason for U.S. students. Much better than some Cubase light version and only like $20 more. I hate fl's synths, by the way.

TheFlamingDead_ Escribi�:

$200 dollars for Reason for U.S. students. Much better than some Cubase light version and only like $20 more. I hate fl's synths, by the way.

why that ?? FL synths rocks, they sound very "vintage", it's cool... You can do a lot with it.



anyway, I've been using Live for 3 days now, and this software simply rocks ! It's the perfect software to perform music Live...

Yeah, and personally I don't like Reason's sequencer very much, not quite sure what it is. The sequencer is a personal choice, anyway - everyone likes different things.



One thing I will say, is that Reason cannot accept plugins or additional synths. That why it's not as good, in my opinion. Reason is a complete package out of the box, but if you get Cubase, you've got limitless possibilities for expansion - for free!!

Reason can't have external synths in it because it's one in itself. You can Rewire it into all other sequencer programs and just use the vsti in those.

Yeah, you can. But you need another sequencer to do that!

So basically, what I meant was that if you only could/wanted to buy one piece of software, you could do a lot worse than Cubase SE - it's an excellent sequencer, and as expanable as you need it to be.



When you've got some more money after that, then look at Reason as it's a fantastic piece of software. It's just not the only piece you'll need.

Fair enough, but I would rather have Reason.

I have used a good big of programs.



At first I really liked Reason. I liked the look of it, and the ability to wire-up shit yourself. It gives you a good bit of customizability.



However for actual music production.. I feel it's a bit lacking. I don't know all the tips and tricks to it, but it just feels severely limited. The sequencer is a bit hard to use, and the program has a maximum width to it. Which angers me so, because you only have a certain amount of space to work with, no matter how big your monitor is. Not being able to use plugins is a real letdown, but the CPU usage of Reason is amazingly low. Over-all, it seems very loop based like Acid, in a better package. The reason refills sound great, but it sucks that you can't use them in anything BUT reason. I also found it strange that when I loaded up some drum refills in the redrum kit, stuff was automatically panned for me. The Hi-hats were on the right side. I found that very weird, as I personally like to do that stuff myself. It's a bit limiting in a way.





Cubase I couldn't use for crap. It was entirely too difficult to learn how to do the most simple things. It didn't seem like it was setup too intuitively. I didn't learn much about it, because it definitely was not setup in any way that I would want a program to be setup.



Ableton is damn cool. Again, a bit of a learning curve, but the tutorials ARE great.



FL Studio is what I use, and for some reason I really enjoy using it. It gets more and more in each version. The mixer is awesome, now, except for the fact that you can't listen to JUST the send channels, now, without a hell of a lot of work. FL can be used very basically, or you can get into the really advanced stuff. The sequencer is simple to use, but then get into the Piano roll, and it gets better. FL uses the screen very nicely, the bigger the resolution, the more you can see and use at the same time. Additional plugins make everything much better, but things start to add up and will really tax your CPU, which is the only real downside to it, in my opinion. The default samples do suck, too. I seriously recommend FL Studio. It works best for me. your results may vary

If you've got the talent, you can make music on anything. I say try everything! Demos are your lover.

And I would recommand you Rebirth too, it's a cool TB303 TR808 and TR909 emulator, very simple to use and the results are frankly great !

Im thinking about getting some stuff together so i can play vinyls and just dick around with them really.. Can anyone help me out on where i start really..?

I dont wanna get ripped off or nothing, and i dont want them breaking or anything..

Piracy

;-)

Does reason 3 come with rebirth built in?

No, but Rebirth is/was free to download from Propellerheads website. It should be on the web for free somewhere, and it's not piracy as Propellerheads have effectivelly made it freeware!



Personally, I find it overrated. It's alright, but it sounds a bit dated as everyone uses it, and it's not the most user friendly to work with (the models are too accurate!)