I thought this was fuckin hilarious:

Goths and chavs go to war in the woods in attempt to keep the peace on the streets



Council defuses town centre tension with organised BB gun battles between teenagers



Patrick Barkham

Wednesday August 31, 2005

The Guardian





Peterborough's Cathedral Square yesterday afternoon. The scene of regular standoffs between gangs of marauding chavs and goths. Apart from the patter of shoppers' feet on hot paving stones, it's quiet, too quiet.

Ten miles away, at a secret location in the Cambridgeshire countryside, it is a different story. Startled wood pigeons crash through the trees at the sound of plastic ball bearing guns as the city's chavs and goths run through the undergrowth taking pot shots at each other.



War games do not appear the most obvious way to bring together these teenage tribes, as distinctive and implacably opposed to each other as the mods and rockers of the 1960s. But Peterborough city council is hoping that a new scheme, in which they take unruly chavs and goths on "airsoft" war games, will bring a truce to the trouble in Cathedral Square.

Fourteen male and female chavs and goths yesterday swapped fake Burberry and Marilyn Manson T-shirts for camouflage to take part in the first of the airsoft games, which is similar to paintballing but uses ball bearing - BB - guns firing plastic balls.



The voluntary scheme has been organised by the city's street wardens with the blessing of the local police. The street wardens were introduced three years ago to tackle antisocial behaviour and petty street crime but have found the antagonism between chavs and goths difficult to quell.



The gangs have attracted complaints of underage drinking, violence, vandalism, graffiti and littering. Police have also received a spate of calls from members of the public terrified by teenagers firing the frighteningly realistic-looking BB guns at each other on the streets.



Kitted out in black body armour and chomping on a large cigar, Steve Mayes, the street warden supervisor, looks more than a match for any mouthy chav or stoned goth. But he's found both groups showing scant regard for him, each other or society, and hopes that skirmishes in the countryside will instil respect.



"We've had large groups of chavs and goths on Cathedral Square on a Saturday. They've not really being doing any harm but the sheer number of them intimidates people," he said. "It's like mods and rockers - not that these guys start fighting, it's just a bit of a slap here and there."



The few goths who still walk across the square by the city's Norman cathedral are not so sure. War games in the countryside? "That's going to be murder," said Kenny, 19, resplendent in his daywear of black boots, black jeans, black shirt and long black leather jacket (it's sunny and 25C). "The chavs will take knives."



Kenny admits he was once a "borderline" chav but got in with skaters, punks and then goths. Black is his daywear but for gigs he'll don black eyeliner and black nail varnish. Apart from clothes and music, the difference between the groups is attitude, according to Kenny.



He points out a chav, swaggering through the square on the toes of his immaculate white trainers. "Most goths are so laid-back they are on their arse," he said. "If you go up to a chav and look at him wrong, he'll kick your head in."



A piercing scream cuts through the quiet of the countryside as a chav receives a buttfull of plastic ball bearings. The bonding between the two groups is proceeding apace and organisers swear that the teams have not simply divided down chav/goth lines.



But Mr Mayes admits there is one small problem: most of the goths were so laid-back they couldn't get up in time for the war games. Six cried off yesterday morning. "We've got more chavs than we have goths because they couldn't get out of bed," he said. "They've probably been smoking too much pot."



"Chris just unloaded a clip on me," yells one chav, clutching his backside in mock pain as he enters the "dead zone", where those who are shot during the game must recuperate for five minutes. "I shot you about five times, man," bragged another chav.



"They call me a chav," said Craig Jones, 22. He doesn't mind. "It's a bit of laugh. I think they mean Orton boy, which is an area in Peterborough which has graffiti all over the place so people think it's a bit dingy."



He finds the joy of the war game a welcome relief from the tedium of sitting in Cathedral Square. "I hang around with mates having a giggle, having a laugh. There's not much to do. Because we hang about in big groups separate from one another people think there's trouble and it's intimidating. With a big group of lads, grannies think they're going to rob their handbags."



But he insists that far from gang warfare, the chav-goth tension in Peterborough is like anywhere in the country, it is simply "friendly banter".



Mr Mayes says the voluntary scheme, in which chavs and goths pay a reduced rate subsidised by a local company, is not rewarding bad behaviour. Teenagers brandishing BB guns in town has been a problem, but the scheme teaches youngsters that the realistic-looking weapons hurt and should only be used in safe "game" situations.



"These guys here are well-behaved kids. All they've done is stand in large groups. They say: 'I hang about on the square because I haven't got anything else to do, innit?'"



Mr Mayes believes the games will give the two groups something to do and get them talking to each other. "It gets rid of that pent-up energy that teenagers don't seem to get rid of these days when they are sitting around on their Playstations and Xboxes," he said.



The council hopes a new spirit of mutual respect will extend to all their employees. As well as the orange-clad street wardens, there is even a council parking attendant sportingly allowing young chavs and goths to take pot shots at him. "When they see us now it's not going to be 'oh those bloody tango wardens'," said Mr Mayes. "They now know who I am."



Whether skinny goths can be persuaded out of their beds for some bracing outdoor activity with their chav foes remains to be seen. But the council wardens believe the airsoft games, which they hope to hold every half-term, will spread via word of mouth, bringing the two tribes together in war - and bringing peace to Cathedral Square.



"It's like football," said Denise Mee, another street warden. "You pick which team you belong to. But ultimately the chavs and the goths are the same sort of people, so the idea is to get them together. When they first came they were in little groups but already there's more togetherness."

This is where I live X-D I can't see it working myself. Two rival gangs, given guns, and permission to shoot each other....



I remember when I used walk through there as a kid, it was full of punks with crazy hair dos, now it's winey goths and pissed up chavs. Ahh I love Peterborough..

we have to let them kill each other. Like that, we won't have to kill each one of them to be at peace :)

iguanapunk Escribi�:

This is where I live X-D I can't see it working myself. Two rival gangs, given guns, and permission to shoot each other....



I remember when I used walk through there as a kid, it was full of punks with crazy hair dos, now it's winey goths and pissed up chavs. Ahh I love Peterborough..

you need to disguise yourself as a chav and go goth huntin'

I haven't got anything against the Goths, I have some goth mates. I mean I don't really like them but I don't want to kill them. Chavs don't bother me either cos I went to a chav school, had chav mates and now I ride the chav bus (officially the worst bus in our city *gulp* they were going to cancel the service cos of crime rates. One of the stories was of some kids lobbing a cat under the bus. Other stories are of muggings and assault).

Chav Bus!



that's awsome, I picture this short, burberry patterned bus full of Stell cans.

and it smells of the lower class.



I use it pretty often, and thankfully I haven't been attacked so far. I'm always prepared though, got my glock and shit.

Day before yesterday Darkstarexodus road the bus through Compton... your mate woulda been impressed.

iguanapunk Escribi�:

This is where I live X-D

That was the first thing I thought when I read the article.



Actually, I went into the Burberry Store the other day down here in Costa Mesa and was very tempted to drop some cash on a new outfit. I just about couldn't stop laughing while in the store. So funny. I hope it catches on at home, for shits and giggles.



The ride through Compton made me feel out of place. For about an hour I don't think I saw a single white person. I was dressed kinda nice and was really hoping I wouldn't get stabbed. :D Took a couple pics with my phone, so I'll post them when I get back home to lovely Winterpeg.



Compton represent, yo!

In these games, no matter how many people you shoot you're still a loser X-D

Actually, i kinda take that back so as not to offend anyone. I actually dont really know much about either goths or chavs.

No, you pretty much had it spot on. I'd rather be a Chav though, personally, because burberry is SO hot.

I got caught up in the whole goth thing quite a few years ago. It was quite taxing to be mopey all the time so I just let go and ventured to other things. Personally, I feel the whole goth scene (when I was in it) was pretentious and unhappy. Still though, I don't mind the goths, it's kind of cute seeing them because it reminds me of me when I was young.



I still can't shake the whole "goth" look though even though I've toned things way down. It's a lot of effort putting an outfit together and some of the ladies' clothes kind of restrict the breathing (although corsets do look hot!) It must be my black hair that's holding onto the look. Once you go black, you never go back!!!

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Once you go black, you never go back!!!

I've heard many a girl say that.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Once you go black, you never go back!!!

I've heard many a girl say that.

Bwah!!! X-D

X-D

But ehm what exactly are chavs ?!

http://www.chavscum.co.uk



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