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#1 Skey   User is offline

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 6:03 AM

Have you ever listened to California Gurls by Katy Perry? You can find it on the top of the Billboard.

The melodies on the beginning and the beats of it are almost the same as Swoon!!

What happened?? :evil:

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 8:37 AM

Don't think. The bass look similar, and the two tracks are sounding like 80's to me, but nothing more...

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 9:07 AM

yeah, but swoon is 'heavily influenced' by about 3 Orbital songs and My Bloody Valentine's Loveless album, so it's not too much to be worried about
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:01 AM

which ones Ben Glass?
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 1:02 PM

I know, Swoon is similar to Lush 3-1 by Orbital.

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 1:33 PM

View PostSkey, on 28 June 2010 - 02:02 PM, said:

I know, Swoon is similar to Lush 3-1 by Orbital.



This.

The first time I heard Swoon on the radio, I cringed

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 1:45 PM

Um... What to say?

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 5:08 PM

View Postchemicalfan, on 28 June 2010 - 08:33 AM, said:

This.

The first time I heard Swoon on the radio, I cringed


lol_fail

Swoon is nothing like Lush, just has a melody quite similar to one of the leads on Lush. It's like saying Block Rockin' Beats is just a rip-off of a 23 Skidoo track..
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 5:14 PM

also, the katy perry song rips off Pryda's production style more than Swoon -- and he's not exactly original to begin with
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 5:33 PM

The Katey Perry reference is completely nonsense. Not the slightest similarity besides tthere is a bit of an off-beat bassline. As for Lush, the first couple of notes are indeed a bit similar to the last bar of swoon's main melody but the whole thing and its context is totally different.
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 11:15 PM

View PostGLAKO-FAHN, on 28 June 2010 - 06:08 PM, said:

lol_fail

Swoon is nothing like Lush, just has a melody quite similar to one of the leads on Lush. It's like saying Block Rockin' Beats is just a rip-off of a 23 Skidoo track..


Honesty is the best policy, I'm not gonna lie.
On subsequent listens, it's obviously nothing like it, but first impressions were as above.

That said, it's still my least favourite track on the album at the moment (subject to change as always!)

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 1:42 AM

I love that track by Katy perry, and I'm a big fan of Max Martin and Denniz pop (i think max martin produced this one?)

it's a standard chord progression, and yes, it is exactly the same as swoon in that respect, but i'm definite that same progression of D, A#, C has been used a million times and will continue to be. go find any pop song in D minor.

but the songs are different takes on a similar feeling... funny that we assosciate The D minor Scale with Summer, and prettyness... i do wonder why that is.


i'm sure we will get a terrible California Swoon mashup soon. :(
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 10:56 AM

Well, if Swoon had been released one year or two ago, I could have some doubts, but...it sounds pretty absurd to me, like the Alizée/Coldplay rumours. It´s only a similar progression.

BTW. Mrs. Perry has hit the target with that single. Catchiest mainstream hit in a long time...


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Posted 29 June 2010 - 12:13 PM

But I have to say that I thought Katy Perry utilized chembros' work.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 2:56 PM

California Gurls has an almost identical synth line to Tik Tok by Kesha. It's even in the same key! I'm dead serious, just listen to the synth at the start of each song:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=CwE-SLnLkqY
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=O_AAn24fEk8

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 3:03 PM

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 3:08 PM

View PostMaboul59, on 08 July 2010 - 01:03 AM, said:

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 4:47 PM

oh, and i figured specifically which (bit of an) orbital song i think swoon most reminded me of

Out There Somewhere (Part 1) - the riff that comes in about 6.08

http://www.we7.com/#...ewhere-Part-1+1
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 1:51 AM

View PostJoeyjoejoe, on 07 July 2010 - 04:56 PM, said:

California Gurls has an almost identical synth line to Tik Tok by Kesha. It's even in the same key! I'm dead serious, just listen to the synth at the start of each song:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=CwE-SLnLkqY
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=O_AAn24fEk8



These two songs are produced by the same people... dr luke and benny someone... i forget, excepting Max Martin helped with California Gurls.

This is the year of Dr. Luke and Benny-whatsisface, they also did Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA"

this sound is popular and probs will be for the rest of the year, just like for the last 2 years we have had Will I Am at the top of the pop world, now we have these guys. before Will I Am, it was Timbaland, and before him, The Neptunes. these are the people responsable for what trends in pop music.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 6:51 AM

View Postdj_sirbadgelot, on 07 July 2010 - 07:51 PM, said:

These two songs are produced by the same people... dr luke and benny someone... i forget, excepting Max Martin helped with California Gurls.

This is the year of Dr. Luke and Benny-whatsisface, they also did Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA"

this sound is popular and probs will be for the rest of the year, just like for the last 2 years we have had Will I Am at the top of the pop world, now we have these guys. before Will I Am, it was Timbaland, and before him, The Neptunes. these are the people responsable for what trends in pop music.


Thats very interesting. It bothers me how under-credited most producers are (Timbaland is about the only "popular" name out of the bunch).
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