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Journey in The Golden Path
#1
Posted 25 October 2005 - 7:27 AM
I'm also asking this because im not entirely sure of what is going on in the song, so feel free to tell me if i'm wrong in thinking a Journey takes palce in the song.
#2
Posted 25 October 2005 - 3:33 PM
You know what i'm trying to say. It's that sort of imagination or image that you have from something perfect but then the day changes all and you need to rethink. If you remember what your teachers and/ or parents always said to you when you had to do the "RIGHT", let it be school lessons or life decissons/ issues (do this and that, otherwise it's getting worse or somethin'). But then when you do it, it differs totally from that you were thinking of. You're confused and your supposed golden path may seem to atomize in the haze of coincidence.
But sometimes some "shining answer from the moon" is telling you the right thing for a certain moment in your life! Like a brainstorm. So i think there's no one (Golden) Path, there are thousands more!
Yeah, that's what i was thinking of when i remembered the few words that i could bring back to mind. Can't listen know to the song to invlove more lyrics... My fingers are liable for any grammar mistakes of my brainstorm...
#3
Posted 25 October 2005 - 4:30 PM
:/
Like when it sings
'' I was confronted by a mysterious Spectance''
God?
''Pointed to the Graveyard over on yonderhill''
Holy Spirit?
''Deamon Force''
Devil like he says
So its almost as if God is trying to help him but cant cause he dosent believe in a ''Hevean or hell, worlds and opposites kind of reality''
And Satan is telling him to come to himm
Then at the end when hes asking for forgiveness.. hes asking God for fogiveness (confession?) He wants to go to Heavan :)
Thats my interpretation of The Golden Path
#4
Posted 25 October 2005 - 5:31 PM
I think the points brought up from Csar and Foxy, and can be applied in a sense to the translation, but I think it depends on where the listener is coming from and where the listener is in life either emotionally or (as the song leans more toward ) spiritually. If I were to interpret the song by saying how it relates to my life it's not going to make a bit of sense to you.
The term "Golden Path" is not a new concept that's exclusive to the Chems or Flaming Lips - it was a running theme in the Dune books - if The Golden Path is also a "theme" in Buddhism (and referred to as the Buddhist Path) and the concept is more close knit in design as being a path to spiritual enlightenment.
Anyway. In this case as literal a translation is all I can give. For starters I don't think the protagonist in this song is dying a literal death, but there is a sense of awakening or rebirth. The song takes place in almost a lucid dream state, or even a hallucinatory state depending on how you look at it. Let's break it down.
as i walked along
the supposed golden path
i was confronted
by mysterious spectre
protagonist is journeying though life and is met by a ghost (which is what a spectre is). The ghost reveals what's obvious by...
he pointed to the graveyard
over on yonder hill
I paused in cosmic reflection
confused on wondering
of how i came to die
I don't see the mention of death as being a literal death, but more an great change. Sort of like, just because the death card pops up in a tarot card reading doesn't mean there's going to be a literal death - but the card signifies a great change in the future.
hm...
i was confused
coz if i was dead
how and why did i die
and i composed myself
and decided i should face it
Again, to me, I don't think the protagonist has died, but he knows there's change afoot. He has to face that change, and what lies before him in his future.
then i stood paralized
on the supposed golden path
and i was confronted
by powerful demon force
and there was the devil
and we spoke his words
flowed like glowing lava from the mouth of a volcano
Not necessarily a literal demon or devil, but perhaps and obstacle confronted on that path to enlightenment. My guess is the demon force is fear of the unknown and the uncertainty the future holds.
and i said:
help me, lord!!
i found myself in some kinda hell
but i did not believe in heaven and hell
world in opposites kind of reality
Again, the protagonist - on his way to enlightenment - is paralysed by this fear of the unknown. Coming from someone (yours truly) who does not buy into the concept of heaven and hell, this lyric brings it all home. "there's nothing to fear but fear itself" which is why...
but i gained control of myself
and decided to press on
Exactly.
as i walked along
the supposed golden path
I was trembling with fear
all the lions and the wizards yet to come
There's that demon force at work again, but the protagonist is still moving along on his path to enlightenment. Lions and wizards, IMO, are allusions to magic or some other loosely defined "force", or could be upcoming obstacles along the way.
i see in the distance
silver mountains rising high in the clouds
and a voice from above did whisper
some shining answer from the moon
Contrast between the standing on a golden path and seeing silver mountains in the distance. The moon illuminates that path or in this case, gives the answer (which is highly subversive IMO) The protagonist said earlier he didn't believe in world in opposites, but here they are and they've been here all along. The two worlds can coexist and we see that every day, literally and figuratively. That's the enlightenment.
please forgive me
i never meant to hurt you
(please forgive me if I'm waaaaaaay off mark with my pseudo intelluctual bullshit interpretation!!! X-D X-D ) Could mean a mountain of things depending on how you look at the song, and it's beautiful. Personally I think it's coming from the protagonist in the song, not from god or a god or whatever.
#7
Posted 25 October 2005 - 5:38 PM
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
I always thought it was 'some shining answer from the womb'
Well since i've proven myself to be deaf in the past, I won't argue that. hehe.
Womb opens up a whole slew of interpretation possibilities. Where's the head scratching smilie when you need one?
#8 toomuchstash
Posted 25 October 2005 - 5:41 PM
whirlygirl Escribi�:
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
I always thought it was 'some shining answer from the womb'
Well since i've proven myself to be deaf in the past, I won't argue that. hehe.
Womb opens up a whole slew of interpretation possibilities. Where's the head scratching smilie when you need one?
I probably just hear 'womb' cuz, you know, I think that's where all the answers come from.
#9
Posted 25 October 2005 - 6:00 PM
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
I always thought it was 'some shining answer from the womb'
WOW I find Whirly's explanation very nice to read although I have to agree with toomuch'stash on that last line. Doesn't change the explanation BTW.
I didn't know about the Golden path being a symbol in Buddhism. Is was more thinking about the yellow brick road from the Wizard of Oz. While this sounds funny there really is a similarity. Both are about growth.
I won't translate the lyrics, can't beat Whirly on that, but to me the lyrics is also about growth. The person in question seems to be walking on the Golden Path encountering some troubles (powerfull demon force, lions and wizards). But he's going through his troubles and walks on, finding good reasons to keep on walking (silver mountains). "please forgive me I never meant to hurt you" could either mean some greater force apologizing for the trouble he put the person through �R (and that is what I take from the lyrics) the person itself asking forgiveness for his own past, the trouble he has caused. Because IMO the troubles on the Golden Path are troubles he caused himself or are troubles which you need to encounter in life.
#15
Posted 25 October 2005 - 11:54 PM
The protagonist is all alone on the path he's been told to follow.
Personally, I think it's about an acid trip. :D I mean, come on, he talks to the devil, sees a world in opposites (which he doesn't even believe in), faces spectres, graveyards, and other death imagery, and ends up pleading for someone to forgive him. Total acid trip. Drugs are bad, mmmmkay? (But this song makes me feel so good.)
#16 toomuchstash
Posted 26 October 2005 - 12:21 AM
#18
Posted 26 October 2005 - 2:42 AM
Slipvin Escribi�:
Jesus... People analyzing Chemical Brothers songs to find a deeper message? What is the world coming to these days???
Well then Slipvin dear, it's either that or someone wants to interpret Tom's haircut *again*!
;)
#20
Posted 26 October 2005 - 10:57 AM
whirlygirl Escribi�:
Slipvin Escribi�:
Jesus... People analyzing Chemical Brothers songs to find a deeper message? What is the world coming to these days???
Well then Slipvin dear, it's either that or someone wants to interpret Tom's haircut *again*!
;)
yes , but you have to underdstand whirly , it's a very big thing to cut his hair! I think he is trying to tell us something.... 8O
Hehehehehe X-D