antype - you rule - you are so Chem knowledgable and informative I just want you to know that when you post I read it, love your posts.



is your site still up? Post a linky here if it is?



love ya antype

It would be good if moby did post on the board.

Though I've enjoyed Moby in the past and will listen to his new record with an open ear and mind I have my strong opinions about Moby's music and how Play was used in every advertisement (I do realize he wanted his record to be heard... but I think every time I turned on the television it was... well, overkill) but that was then it's time to move on, besides it's the point. I don't see what's wrong with being outspoken. When has an artist not spoken his or her mind? Look at their art or listen to their music or read their prose - they are speaking their mind in some way. If you're creating art from your heart, surely your mind is a big part of that. With musicians, that'll spill out into their lives outside of making music. Maybe that's why some musicians choose to make escapist music, which most definitely has its place - but it has it's place as much as music that's politically and/or socially inclined.



If that annoys you, if it gets your down then immerse yourself in an escapist world and turn off the news every once in a while. Simple as that - we all do it on a Saturday night every now and again.



I have to ask Why should artists be immune to the world around them? Why should they just shut up and play? I can't fuckin stand it when I hear people say "who the fuck are these people, do they think they're political experts, why don't they shut and play." Why can't they have an opinion outside of their music? Part of art is expressing your opinion. Even if it's off the clock...



Maybe I grew up listening to and loving outspoken artists, like U2, so it was natural for me to gravitate towards those all too willing to express their opinion through song. I actually find it inspiring that people I admire aren't immune to the world around them.

I?m not saying that there is nothing wrong with been out spoken about topics that effect everybody but Moby does tend to talk strangely about things.



Sometimes music artist should stay out of political issues, because they often look like fools, but I do think it is good for them to do it because it helps promote the causes.



In the end I would not want Moby to change the way he is.

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You wanna hear a funny story about Moby?

MANCHESTER, ENGLAND-- Bloody hell. Mung bean loving, tofu caressing, non-animal eating, left wing, techno millionaire baldy Moby has confessed to going on a cocaine binge with a lap dancer. Nice one.



Moby made the admission at New York's China Club which hosts story telling nights where punters are encouraged to entertain each other by relating exciting stories or events.



He explained that six months ago he went to a 'gentleman's club' (*cough*) in Times Square, New York, where a lap dancer offered to dance for him. According to the New York Daily News reported, the star refused, but gave her $400 "just to talk" (*splutter*). The paper quotes Moby saying,



"She gave me a bag of cocaine. I'm 38, but I'd never done coke before." Before explaining, "I didn't know you were supposed to share."



When Moby then explained that he took all the cocaine himself, something that greatly irritated the stripper, who got "very aggressive" when she realised he had hoovered up all her gear. In fact Moby had to buy her a $400 bottle of champagne to try to placate her.



Moby then had an unfortunate emergency toilet incident which resulted in him soiling his "sleazy Versace suit", before he went home. Once there he confessed to calling up a former girlfriend who he claims offered to come over and keep the sleepless musician company.



And just in case you thought the mental image you have right now couldn't get any more disturbing, Moby confessed that they then "made love all night." (*shudder*).



Posted by MK Magazine at August 16, 2004 04:02 PM

Oh yeah, and my personal opinion on Moby and his music...



I saw him live at this tiny little venue in Palo Alto, can't remember the name of it for the life of me, about a year or so before Play came out... it was really, really incredible, and he ended the set standing on top of his Korg with his arms out and the crowd (all 200 hundred or so of us) just went nuts...



Then Play came out, and I loved it. Listened to it over and over again.



I didn't even care when every single song on Play started popping up in every fricken commercial that came out. I was like, hell, there aren't any radio stations cool enough to play his stuff, brother's gotta get his music out there, who cares how he does it?



And then came the terrible, terrible day that I stopped listening to Moby.



It was a Thursday night, a dark and eldritch night... I was waiting for ER to come the television, and I was too stoned to get up and switch channels... then I head the familiar strains of 'Body Rock' coming from my television, and I thought, 'Oh, what has Moby done now? What sort of company was cool enough to realize the awesomeness of Moby and license his arm raising, ass shaking tune for their product? Was it a car commercial? '



I leaned closer to the television, to catch a glimpse....



AND WHAT A TERRIBLE SIGHT I BEHELD! yes, there was ass shaking, but to my everlasting regret it was aging, obese, over the hill 80s television stars shaking their gigantic asses! THere was Kristy :I-never-should-have-stopped-doing-blow" Ally and Kathy "I'm-best-on-television-when-I'm-doing-voices-for-Kingofthehill-and-you-don't-have-to-look-at-me" Najimy convorting and prancing with Chippendales male dancers!!!!! The horror, the horror.



and I could never listen to Moby again.

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I didn't even care when every single song on Play started popping up in every fricken commercial that came out. I was like, hell, there aren't any radio stations cool enough to play his stuff, brother's gotta get his music out there, who cares how he does it?

Thats what I think as well. I think it has become fashionable to criticise Moby. A lot of the time people dismiss his music as crap, just because he is a vegan and has views on the world, before they have actually listened to the record. If people don't like his music after listening to it, fair enough but at least listen to it first.



Sorry, haven't we said this before about another recent album? ;-)



ps. For the record I haven't heard the album yet but plan on buying it.

So, I finally listened to "Hotel", and I have to say, it doesn't suck nearly as bad as I thought it would... except for the "i'm loaded on Cough Syrup" version of Temptation, that absolutely sucks... they took a song about the giddiness of being young and in love and tranferred it to retirement/pensioner community.

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If Moby is main stream crap why is he not getting number 1 in the charts

Because his new album is...mainstrem crap (95% peoples in the world love mainstream crap).

I know this may sound stupid but is glewis moby or just someone pretending to be? Is there any celebs that post on the board? I here Tony Adams is a Chems fan?

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So, I finally listened to "Hotel", and I have to say, it doesn't suck nearly as bad as I thought it would... except for the "i'm loaded on Cough Syrup" version of Temptation, that absolutely sucks... they took a song about the giddiness of being young and in love and tranferred it to retirement/pensioner community.

Sadly, Barney is on record as saying he likes it (forget where I read that, though). Poor, poor, Barney. Said he loves 'Galvanize' too, though.

Still can't listen to it in one go. I began to appreciate certain songs on the album but he should stfu on the next album. Maybe if he released an instrumental Hotel album it would be more appreciated by me. His vocals suit metal and hardrock, not mainstream shitpop.

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toomuch'stash Escribi�:

So, I finally listened to "Hotel", and I have to say, it doesn't suck nearly as bad as I thought it would... except for the "i'm loaded on Cough Syrup" version of Temptation, that absolutely sucks... they took a song about the giddiness of being young and in love and tranferred it to retirement/pensioner community.

Sadly, Barney is on record as saying he likes it (forget where I read that, though). Poor, poor, Barney. Said he loves 'Galvanize' too, though.

Of course he loves it, he got paid when Moby redid it.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

So, I finally listened to "Hotel", and I have to say, it doesn't suck nearly as bad as I thought it would... except for the "i'm loaded on Cough Syrup" version of Temptation, that absolutely sucks... they took a song about the giddiness of being young and in love and tranferred it to retirement/pensioner community.

Sadly, Barney is on record as saying he likes it (forget where I read that, though). Poor, poor, Barney. Said he loves 'Galvanize' too, though.

Of course he loves it, he got paid when Moby redid it.

Point.

Agreed with 'stash.



I think the record is pretty damned good (much better than 18, I think) and has some great song composition. I've been hearing bits and pieces when it's played in my store, but I've only listened to it in full context once. It flows nicely, and it will be making the rounds in my cd player for sure.



I do agree with 'stash a little about the Temptation cover. Can't say I'm very fond of it - it's not totally horrific, but I don't know... I'm not sure if it's something I really wanted to hear on a Moby record. But hey, it's just an opinion.