Well the question was regarding the pyramid show so was 2007. Unless daft punk were talking about 1997. Even then though, the chem's were doing stuff like that around the same time. They were more 'big beat' then compared to daft punk though.

Csar, on 17 May 2013 - 3:53 PM, said:

Relevant: 0:20

ThePumisher, on 16 May 2013 - 1:34 PM, said:

Well, I think "Touch" is a real masterpiece with a really interesting song structure. I love how it goes from very quiet and beautiful sections to some more groovy ones. There is a great build up at the begining, the down tempo beat at the end of the track is great too. Not to mention the greadt voice, synth solos and nice FX throughout the track.
That's too bad it doesn't make it for you. Give it another chance maybe. It could take some time to grow on you. Especially if you were expecting this album to be an EDM one.

inchemwetrust, on 16 May 2013 - 5:21 AM, said:

Have you never heard of "Paranoid android" by Radiohead or "21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson? Those are two very successful examples of tracks with complexe structures - in my opinion. Touch may be part of this list very soon.
I'd rather listen to these songs than to "Nothing But Pleasure" which has a pretty decent synth lead but which barrely evolves for 8 minutes...I guess when it comes to other artists, some of you may be way too hard. That's just my feeling.
I understand you were expecting something bigger - or should I say "different" - from Daft Punk though.

I'm still upset. I just think they have missed a real trick by wanting to react to EDM. I think RAM is an overreaction of using certain sounds and influences. When i think about the song "Teachers", it feels like they have ignored that completely. They could have took influences from ALL the names they checked on that track. "Teachers" doesnt just go "Nile Rodgers", "Nile Rodgers","Nile Rodgers and the other bloke from chic".
It also feels like they bottled it a bit and didnt take on the EDMers at their own game, they chose to make something completely different, which i sort of respect but at the same time if they wanted to prove that its possible to make emotional, soulful electonic dance music with a human heart they could have done. There isnt enough variation or any nod to a lot of varied stuff.

On 2nd and third listen i now think Contact is ok but only cos its sticks out as a coherent and well put together track amonsgt all the other shite.

I havent been this upset about an album. Ever.

Chops, on 18 May 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

I guess their has been a huge misunderstanding about their marketing campaign. All of us were expecting Daft Punk to drop a new oustanding EDM album. I think they kind of warned us that something different was coming but as far as I'm concerned I didn't understand it. I kept thinking something groundbreaking was coming, something that could have had a huge impact on EDM, but I was wrong. That's partly why I got so disappointed when they released the preview of get lucky. This track makes so much sense within the context of the album now.
I have been trying to listen to this album with a pair of fresh ears (ie without thinking that it's been produced by Daft Punk). I think that's a very interesting album with a bunch of very well produced tracks. Some of them have already grown on me, some others haven't.
On a side not, I think the guy who mixed the album did a great job. It sounds very clean and punchy to me, especially the drums.

Agree with Bouh, very bad marketing campaign, RAM makes me think of MGMT's second album. And "Touch" to "Siberian Breaks".

After many listen I can say it's my second fav' daft album after Homework (I could not bear the others), it's very slow but pleasant. "Contact" is boring

To be honest, i wasnt sure what i was expecting. I thought there would just be more variety.

I did worry that it would never match the hype but i applaud them for trying to market it in the way they have. quite original really but its now becoming apparent they felt they needed a strong campaign as its not the most commercial album really.

I am sorry if my rant annoyed anyone, i had to let it out.

I just think they have ran away from what made them because of other acts recent success as opposed to challenging them head on. I dont necessarily think their fans were at the forefront of the their minds when they made this. its something they have made for themselves and maybe made as a statement to other acts.

Chops, on 18 May 2013 - 5:11 PM, said:

I read in an interview there,it's in FRENCH (i've warned you)

http://obsession.nou...-daft-punk.html

lose yourself to dance : it's the definition of what we wanted to do,a very good production but simple on the same time,there is two drommers Omar Hakim and John Robinson Jr.Our fantasy was to make dance music again with real drums.


and there


http://www.francetv....nterview-134839

"Aujourd'hui la musique électronique est faite dans les aéroports et des chambres d'hôtels, par des dj voyageurs"


"today,edm is made in airports and hotel rooms by travelling dj's"


so why ram?


because they wanted to do an album with the "west coast vibe" : "why do you feel in the first notes of hotel california that you are there?"


they also wanted the album as an hommage to what they listened back in the days (Quincy Jones)


[they did music for themselves this time:m*sturbation album?]


also somewhere in the interview : "these days there are no good samplers to work with,so we wanted to create an human album,
there is still the electronics,but this time more in the background"


also there has been 250 different tracks recorded to do "touch"


they also recorded 2 tracks with Kanye West and they do not plan to tour

pilotfish, on 18 May 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

This is why people say Daft Punk is a pair of pretentious artists, and I'm starting to agree with them. You're really going to start defining when and where people can make music and gain inspiration? Get the fuck out.

Bouh, on 18 May 2013 - 1:53 AM, said:

Yes they are, but Touch had some good momemtum, and was doing fine from the very beginning to 4:11. But the other 2 shifts in the track after 4:11 were sort of unnecessary to me and killed the vibe for me.

Maybe this album is hard to grasp at first, but I'm damn sure not gonna pretend that I like the whole album right now.

Maybe this album is Daft Punk's 'Further'

inchemwetrust, on 18 May 2013 - 7:22 PM, said:

further still had a variety of stuff on it. it was a particular vibe but there was still enough variation to make it an interesting listen and also still sound like the chems. this sounds like daft punk trying to be someone else and i think they should have tried harder to be daft punk

MadPooter, on 18 May 2013 - 8:04 PM, said:

Say the guy whose favorite artist's studio looks like a spacecraft and costs probably as much as a spacecraft. I'm quite sure no chems track were record in airports. You basically can't produce everything on a computer, that's what make the difference, that's how you get some groove.

Just listen again to RAM and tell me how you can get the bass, the drum, and the guitar grooving this way from a computer. Go ahead.

'Give life back to music'

NB : here's the true quote. And I totaly agree with that.

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I'm pretty sure they absolutely whore out the vocoder on this album. Nothing non-computery about that.

"the grove" is present in all forms of music. Not just ones that rely on live instruments.

Bosco, on 18 May 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

Is EDM known to be groovy? I do love EDM, but it's not groovy at all.

This is what groove is

See the difference with a four-to-the-floor kick?

I want to answer that question, but I'm sincere when I say I don't know the true definiton of EDM (Electronic Dance Music).

I would understand it as any Dance Music made electronically. But I get the feeling it's more categorized than that. Or at least, thats how I interpret it from people that talk about it.

However, If The Chemical Brothers fit that classification, then yes. EDM is very groovy.

I would point to songs like, Don't Stop the Rock, It Doesn't Matter, and Three Little Birdies Down Beats, as being very "groovy".

Yeah, I think our definitions of "groove" are different. I see it as anything that has rhythm and flow. It seems you categorize it as something that has funky/live feel to it.

Exactly! I see it as a rythm which is tight but not quantized as hell that it doesn't have anymore human feel to it.

Interesting to see how words can have different meanings in people's minds =)

Bouh, on 18 May 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

What the fuck is this D standing for?!? It's electronic music. That's what it is. Dance music is a meaningless, unprecise term for any genre.
And therefore, your conclusion is flawed. You can find groove in any kind of genre. EDM is nothing less than a marketing creation, invented - out of cluelessness - to tag music store shelves to make it easier for consumers to relate to.

I just heard the album for the first time, the only song I immediately liked was Contact.
The rest, well it's not entirely bad, but also not memorable.