Not as big over here as it is in america I don't think. I was just wondering what you people thought of them, because I really want one, i'm just a little put off by the price, even the hdd is massive! Are there any alternatives or is the iPod king of the mp3 walkman world?

(1)after approx 18 month the internal battery runs out and wont take a charge,

you then have to send it to an apple place where they make them and have it replaced for about $100/?100

(2) yes it has a big hdd but do you really have 20,000 songs that you would put onto your pc and transfere over and listen to all the time?!

(3) there are much smaller and better mp3 players out there, shop around, you WILL find a better deal than the ipod.......but then again if its only looking cool you're worried about then blow the ?400 on one!!!! :D



* creative labs, sony, panasonic, or then there is always the endlessly superior NET-md's, 4hrs music to one disc, editing,small,light,just generally great!!!! but if its mp3 you want then please do shop around, i know way too many ppl that wasted money on 2003's most useless gadget!!!





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Wow, thanks for that, has made me think quite a bit about an alternative. Currently I have 27GB's of music on my PC.

yeah you see 27gb's of music aint that much for an ipod that can hold 40gig! only with the top ot the range 40gig one do you get the usd/charger cable,and the remote control,belt carry case,you have to buy them as extras on the lower gig models, as far as i know anyways!



glad it helped, deffo consider other brands,more reliable,better value.....



plus you know the yanks, show them something shiny and they buy it in their millions! X-D

haha, yeah, dazzled by shiny things X-D

Wow, I bet chemd'up doesn't have an iPod. I hate ignorance -- it gets in the way of EVERYTHING.



Is it besides the point that: my 2 and a half year old iPod can still hold a charge for two hours of continuous play? That you probably don't realize that there's a difference between listening to 10,000 songs in one day and having 10,000 songs available to you at all times so you can listen to whatever you suddenly feel like listening to? That the iPod is the smallest functional portable music player and the only thing nearly every other mp3 players (which generally only play mp3/wma unlike the iPod) have on the iPod is battery life (which is due to cheap memory, smaller hd)? That you're probably a fucking liar and like the way the iPod looks? That you can drop the iPod repeatedly and it will not break? That music libraries grow?



And don't deny being attracted to shiny things!!! It's a natural human response -- chemical release! ;)



I own two iPods (5 GB, and 15 GB), my dad has two (5 GB, and 40 GB), and my sister one (15 GB). You're insulting us by saying it's a waste of money. The iPod changes the way you listen to music, the way you live your life. Now, feel free to go fuck yourself chemd'up.





(For the record, the iPod is the best, most reliable "mp3 player", and also *happens* to be the best value. Also, only the low-end model lacks a dock, remote, and case -- all models include a charger, and all cables. Finally, I'm Canadian.)

God damn it man, I thought things were clearer for me, now i'm back to square one and wanting an iPod, I can't take it, it's like being the child in between a messy divorce.

right glako......"I own two iPods (5 GB, and 15 GB), my dad has two (5 GB, and 40 GB), and my sister one (15 GB). You're insulting us by saying it's a waste of money. The iPod changes the way you listen to music, the way you live your life. Now, feel free to go fuck yourself chemd'up"





"the ipod changes the way you live your life".....lets just contemplate that for a minute........it is plastic.....a few micro-chips and fuck all else.....hmmmm someone needs to get out more!!!!!!5 ipods in one house....who are you donald trump???? i mean spend your money on something worth while!!! you have been completely sucked in by the apple marketing but thats ok your a consumer........



i actually dont like the way the ipod looks.....or the new apple computers for that matter......



define "functional".....i have used far smaller far better ones than the ipod, the only good thing is its menu system and jog wheel thingy.....



canada.....well thats just "little america" aint it!!!



and for the go fuck myself......i think ill let my girlfriend do that!

:P



I'd also like to mention a couple other things. The iPods in my family are NOT used only for listening to music. They are excellent as small, fast hard drives -- one of the great features.

That said, they also work with one's computer seamlessly, especially Macs.

hahaha, quality post chemd up. So, the iPod can be used a portable hard drive? for any file type?

chemd'up Escribi�:

"the ipod changes the way you live your life".....lets just contemplate that for a minute........it is plastic.....a few micro-chips and fuck all else.....hmmmm someone needs to get out more!!!!!!5 ipods in one house....who are you donald trump???? i mean spend your money on something worth while!!! you have been completely sucked in by the apple marketing but thats ok your a consumer........

Jesus. Again insulting me. And don't give me pseudo-philosophical bullshit, please. Plastic can change the way you live your life more than, say, a near-death situation. It all depends on how happy you are, really (there are other factors, but lets not get into those here!).

chemd'up Escribi�:

i actually dont like the way the ipod looks.....or the new apple computers for that matter......

Such is subjective. I happen to find the iPod and new Macs very well designed, but you don't have to.

chemd'up Escribi�:

define "functional".....i have used far smaller far better ones than the ipod, the only good thing is its menu system and jog wheel thingy.....

Functionality is defined (and I'm using "define" in the mathematical sense) by the uses, advantages, and disadvantages. The iPod's operating system is intuitive, the wheel is brilliantly natural, and the touch sensitive buttons are very nice. But those are only human interface items. The iPod serves as a music player, high-capacity quality hard drive, and, whether you like it or not, a status item. It also suits many situations (I can take it to school, to a party, wherever, and with all my music there's something for everyone). It may not be as small as some players, but it makes up for that with aforementioned qualities.

chemd'up Escribi�:

canada.....well thats just "little america" aint it!!!

NEVER!!!! X-D ;) Seriously, though. It really isn't.

chemd'up Escribi�:

and for the go fuck myself......i think ill let my girlfriend do that!

Amen.





iguanapunk: absolutely any! At least, anything that your computer supports.

I'm going to use for jogging if I do get one, can you stick any headphones into the socket, is a standard connection? iPod mini's seem pretty cool, but they can't hold as much data. I always find myself saying; i'll never need that much space, but when I get whatever it is;hardrive/cd/dvd I think; I need more space!

Any headphones, yes. Standard 1/8" stereo jack.



Oh, and I advise waiting for the next revision, in case you plan to buy one anytime soon... It's expected some time in the near future -- but don't hold me to that!

this thread just made my day X-D X-D X-D

this will make your day X-D http://albinoblacksh.../flash/dont.php



funny as fuck

glako: everything you've said is true, and relevent and you are completely entitled to your opinion, ipods work for you and your family and thats great but i know too many ppl that have been burned by the ipod, there was a tv show on over here that had thousands of complaints about the ipod.



as a status symbol,well its a bit sad if an mp3 player makes you feel like you stick out of the crowd or have money cause every second person has one! spend your money on a new haircut or a controversial tee-shirt.....i suggest "quick jesus is coming....hide the porn!"



the mini ipod sold out in north america in the first minute it was on sale....or something stupid like that, it is pretty likely it will be the end of the summer or even december b4 it swims accross the pond...



wow did i really write that much! god im tired......



in conclusion: boo ipod....yey everyone else......



good night.......and go andy kauffman! the legnd lives.......

I prefer "There are two people fucking on the back of my shirt...... Just kidding, Believe In Jesus!!"



Also, my hair styles are free -- and on occasion I'm paid to change my hair ($1000 to get rid of orange dye, $2000 to get rid of dreadlocks 8)). So I suppose I'm not quite, erm, on the same level I suppose. I agree with you on the status item bit -- it's ridiculous and a bit funny! TBH though, I've never heard any complaints about the iPod other than price and some silly battery complaint. I've been a Mac-man all my life, so maybe I'm a tad biased -- hope not though!

My brother loves his ipod, no problems with it, he takes it everywhere and plugs it into his car stereo. Tons and tons of songs at his disposal, anytime, anywhere. He likes the convenience and doesn't miss lugging around a cd wallet.



I've thought about it though, I think they're great if that's what you're into but I don't want to spend that kind of money for one. It's just not my thing. I think the convenience has been a factor when I've entertained the thought of getting an ipod (like, when I get into my car for a trip and I'm jonsing to listen to a particular song but ooops, I left that song at home - damn - stuff like that) But really, lugging around a wallet and the rare occasions of being musically unprepared on the go doesn't bug me that much. I don't mind cycling through my discs every week or so and switching music out of my wallet. It's good for keeping all those cd's on my shelf dusted off!

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

I prefer "There are two people fucking on the back of my shirt...... Just kidding, Believe In Jesus!!"



Also, my hair styles are free -- and on occasion I'm paid to change my hair ($1000 to get rid of orange dye, $2000 to get rid of dreadlocks 8))

bumper stickers and t's that make me smile: "Jesus Is Coming, Look Busy!"



Silly question here GLAKO, but I am intrigued... how come you get paid to change your hair, are you some sort of hair model or something?



I wish someone would pay me to change my hair. At the rate I'm going (dying my locks monthly but that's to get rid of the gray) I could be retired by now! ;)

for now i don�t like the ipod very much.



i have enough with a sony cd walkman that plays mp3, around 10 albums @128kbps.





i really don�t need a 40 gb portatil device,maybe for a long long long trip maybe a trip to mars.