I've bought every one of their singles, albums, bumper stickers, and a DVD, and know countless others across the USA who also have. What I won't do anymore is pay money for their music. As of now, I have decided that until the Chemical Brothers give some of their US fans at least a semi-decent tour, (Come on guys, is 10-12 dates all that bad?) then I won't spend any more money on them and will download all of their new music, b-sides etc. illegally. I know what you're thinking, I've sold out right? Wrong. After spending tons of loot over the years on the music etc., all without a tour date in Cleveland or near it, I just feel that at the VERY least, we US fans deserve some sort of "thank you" for supporting them. Granted we here in the US don't buy as many of their albums as people do overseas, and I can fully understand that view point from a money perspective. BUT, they could play smaller clubs that fit maybe 500-1000 people and they would sell out ANY and ALL venues they decide to play here, which, at this point, given that they are most assuredly rich beyond compare, should be considered a creative bonus to be able to come to the states and play some shows for these die-hard Chem starved fans. This is how I feel, and I'm putting my foot down on this matter, ha ha. }:-@

only a buckeye would give up on the chems





but really, cheer up dude. the chems will show up. You might have to travel out to chicago or maybe detroit, but maybe cleveland will get its due too. If you dont know already theres a new album on its way, which means new tour dates. I know they didnt do a very good US tour with PTB, but i have a good feeling that with chemical 6 (jerk the chicken) the States will get a jolley good tour from the Bros.

Ah, I'm not giving up on the Chems at all, as Buckeye, being a die-hard Indians, Cavs, and Browns fan, I don't know what it means to give up. I'm just saying I won't give them any money until I see a tour date listed, as you say, for Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cinncinatti, Indianapolis, or Buffalo. The thing is, not everyone can afford to take long trips across the country or world to see them. YET, I want to see them more than any other band, and I also feel sort of slighted at the fact they tour their asses off overseas and shit like 3 dates on America last year. Give me a break. If I didn't have "one" of those really good jobs that requires me to be around 99% of the time, I'd fucking fly to London for this years NYE party. I've just been waiting so many years now....Hopefully we'll see more next year if a new album gets released.

osufan77 Escribi�:

I've bought every one of their singles, albums, bumper stickers, and a DVD, and know countless others across the USA who also have. What I won't do anymore is pay money for their music. As of now, I have decided that until the Chemical Brothers give some of their US fans at least a semi-decent tour, (Come on guys, is 10-12 dates all that bad?) then I won't spend any more money on them and will download all of their new music, b-sides etc. illegally. I know what you're thinking, I've sold out right? Wrong. After spending tons of loot over the years on the music etc., all without a tour date in Cleveland or near it, I just feel that at the VERY least, we US fans deserve some sort of "thank you" for supporting them. Granted we here in the US don't buy as many of their albums as people do overseas, and I can fully understand that view point from a money perspective. BUT, they could play smaller clubs that fit maybe 500-1000 people and they would sell out ANY and ALL venues they decide to play here, which, at this point, given that they are most assuredly rich beyond compare, should be considered a creative bonus to be able to come to the states and play some shows for these die-hard Chem starved fans. This is how I feel, and I'm putting my foot down on this matter, ha ha. }:-@

Uhm what?? Coming to the States should be a creative bonus? Well, I fully understand your POV. But there's a bunch of people in Europe travelling from Ireland to Spain to see the Brothers. I know a lot of US residents went to Coachella last year. I'm even thinking about going to Red Rocks if they might play there again. Sometimes the travel towards it is half the thrill.

Coming to the States is not a creative bonus and should not be seen as such. Touring is a business and an insanely expensive one at that. The Chemical Brothers have to tour where it would be lucrative not just for them, but for the label that represents them. Running themselves and the touring crew ragged lugging in massive stage gear and playing 500 capacity clubs is not lucrative. There are so many people that have their hands in th epot of touring... And I'm not just talking about Tom and Ed, but their stage crew, their management, their publicists and booking agents, etc. etc. - all these people that make touring possible. You start adding up expenses like lugging around equipment, booking hotels and transportation, food expenses... all this stuff adds up and it is usually the decision of the label to decide whether or not embarking on a US tour would be profitable. I am sure they must enjoy the aspects of touring, I feel I can say with certainty they care very much about touring and what their fans think of their sets... but it's unrealistic to think they tour out of the goodness of their own hearts because they have nothing better to do or they are looking for a bonus of some kind. They tour because it is a part of their careers, it comes with the job of being musicans.



I mean, I understand your frustration and all because I live in the US too. If I could book a flight and follow them to the farthese reaches of the globe, I would. And I'm sure a lot of other people in the US would as well. The thing is, the Chems are not as huge here in the US as they should be and they are much bigger in Europe, so naturally they are going to go where the love is. Nobody's going to stop you from downloading their stuff illegally but think of it this way - if people stopped buying and just said, "ah fuck it, I'm going to just gonna rip and burn", that mentality isn't going to bring the Chems to this side of the pond anytime soon if the label sees their albums aren't selling.



Just my 2 and a half cents.

Touring with that much gear has GOT to be serious bitch. I mean, have you seen that set up? It gets there, it gets set up and sorted out. Vegetable Vision. James Holroyd... Marketing (it's wise to release an album to sell tickets -- can be a big undertaking). Everything about their kind of tour is a big deal.

So actually, 10-12 dates would likely be a bigger deal than 30-40+, as it's a far bigger payoff (monetarily and creatively satisfactorily). It's like building a factory to make one car. It is so just not worth it.

This excludes, of course, major promotional gigs like festivals and such. Think Coachella,e.g. Plus outside of these huge gigs they seem to have gotten lukewarm reception from a lot of US gigs lately. Sceptics and the faithless are to blame.



on the other hand I'd love to see them in Canada! I'm dying for my fix!

Whirly and Glako just about said what i was going to say.

I just did a drive from California to Denver, Co to see a concert and if you get a good bud to join you on the trip it makes for a great journey, concert sounds that much sweeter after days of driving through the states. I might do that if they play seattle again

The travel is unbelieveable, adds so much to the show, and I recommend it wholeheartedly, but it's a fact that not everyone is able to go far and wide to see their favourite artists.



Some of us have been lucky to, but others never will.



While I would not take the stance osufan77 is taking, I can't quite bring myself to fault him for taking it. Tom and Ed don't owe any of us anything in terms of touring, new album, type of sound, etc. But at the same time, the relationship between us and them IS symbiotic. And that means both sides must get something out of it.



For me, their productions are enough, but I also am desperate to see them live again. If osufan77 feels that he is not getting enough out of the relationship to invest monetarily in it any longer, I'm not going to criticize him for doing so.



That being said, I wish to reiterate that I hope very few lose the faith and stop supporting the Chems with album sales.

Biff Escribi�:

I just did a drive from California to Denver, Co to see a concert and if you get a good bud to join you on the trip it makes for a great journey, concert sounds that much sweeter after days of driving through the states. I might do that if they play seattle again

I did the opposite...I drove from Denver to LA to see them @ Coachella and also saw them in 2000 (I believe?) at Red Rocks here in CO. Wow! Anyway I agree that travelling to see shows is always an amazing experience. I recently just flew to LA to see the Basement Jaxx because they didn't play here...a big enough fan will do that...

New_Paradigm Escribi�:

Biff Escribi�:

I just did a drive from California to Denver, Co to see a concert and if you get a good bud to join you on the trip it makes for a great journey, concert sounds that much sweeter after days of driving through the states. I might do that if they play seattle again

I did the opposite...I drove from Denver to LA to see them @ Coachella and also saw them in 2000 (I believe?) at Red Rocks here in CO. Wow! Anyway I agree that travelling to see shows is always an amazing experience. I recently just flew to LA to see the Basement Jaxx because they didn't play here...a big enough fan will do that...

We got ourselves another hard core!!! Welcome to the board, New_Paradigm!



I agree a big enough fan will go to great lengths to see their favorite bands. It would be such an adventure to go to a new city, a new country - plus all the people you'd meet along the way would make it that much sweeter. I'd travel Grateful-Dead-Style to see the Chemical Brothers if I could! Not to sound negative but there are some of us who are faced with financial hurdles are too high at the moment, or there may be personal obligations that would prohibit travel (like, having a child like I do). But next time the Chems stop on the west coast I really want to make an effort and see them outside of Southern California.

Welll, that also shows how much you like them.



I love The Prodigy, and I had to travel in order to see them live.

I spent nearly $200, just in bus/ferry ticket and hotel room.

The previous live show in South America happened like 5 years ago, and that did not stop me from buying their stuff.



And you complain because of that...

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Not to sound negative but there are some of us who are faced with financial hurdles are too high at the moment, or there may be personal obligations that would prohibit travel (like, having a child like I do). But next time the Chems stop on the west coast I really want to make an effort and see them outside of Southern California.

Yeah I hear that for sure...When I hear that a band or group that I really like is playing in the States and not coming to Denver, I will plan the trip out literally months in advance. That way I can save $$$ and have plenty of time to get the days cleared from work, etc...So definitely when a show gets announced with short notice, it's sometimes impossible to make it happen. Fortunately the Chem's are pretty good about giving tour dates way down the line in advance...That definitely helps, but I feel ya!

New_Paradigm Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Not to sound negative but there are some of us who are faced with financial hurdles are too high at the moment, or there may be personal obligations that would prohibit travel (like, having a child like I do). But next time the Chems stop on the west coast I really want to make an effort and see them outside of Southern California.

Yeah I hear that for sure...When I hear that a band or group that I really like is playing in the States and not coming to Denver, I will plan the trip out literally months in advance. That way I can save $$$ and have plenty of time to get the days cleared from work, etc...So definitely when a show gets announced with short notice, it's sometimes impossible to make it happen. Fortunately the Chem's are pretty good about giving tour dates way down the line in advance...That definitely helps, but I feel ya!

Yeah, it can be tough. I am pretty much at the point in my life where the one band I would consider travelling for would be the Chems. My husband and I had plans to see them play on New Year's Eve at Turnmills, and it was so great to find out early that the Chemicals were going to be there - but our son is at an age where he doesn't want to stay home when mom and dad are that far away. I can't blame him as it would not be fair to him... It boiled down to it simply not being within our financial realm for the 3 of us to travel to London over the holidays and arranging for a sitter, in London, on NYE. The disappointment crushed me for a while because I know what I'm missing, but I'm OK with it now - no point trying to push a fate that isn't in the stars. I know when I see the Chemical Brothers play again, all the past disappointment will be forgotten!

My trip to London, which, while not exclusively planned around seeing the Chems at NYE, they were the main reason I decided to go. Trip cost me over $2200 CDN (about 1000 quid) but was worth every dollar. Best week of my life. Easily.



Would do it again in a heartbeat and would be there again next week if I could only afford it.

I have never even seen the Bro's in my own country!

I've seen 4 live sets in London , 1 in Dublin and 1 in Belgium , 1 dj set in London and 1 in Spain. June 29th will prob be the first time i will see them in Amsterdam.



I remember when i was in New York Februari 2005 and the Chems were playing Amsterdam Feb 24th - i had never seen them by than but i was such a big fan already and i was dying to see them but i was stuck in New York. After the gig my brother calls me and shouted ' THAT WAS THE BEST THING IVE EVER SEEN!' I never felt so lonely as at that moment :'(



But , all the other times made up for it and it was so worth it.

I still think Brixton is the best palce to see them - and all the people ive met were absolutely wonderfull. I have to see i was lucky with my financial situation - i dont think i can travel that much anymore for a gig !!

hey don't laugh on my question......what is the difference between dj set and live set??

and what is better LOL

I never laughed at you if that was directed at me ;)

I always so it's stupid NOT to ask a question.



A dj set is basicly the Chems behind their decks spinning records for the crowd. They spin some of their own and records or others



A live set is a concert or a gig basicly. Like the Push The Button tour - they only do their own songs on a massive stage with wicked visuals!



Whats better is different for everybody.

I prefer Live sets because it's 1.5 hr off pure Chemical Madness !!

The visuals , the music , the crowd......everything !!

yeah the live shows they play all there own tracks useing synths, drum marchines ect.



i love a good dj set as this is when you here the rare and new stuff, however the live show it totally mind blowing.