whirlygirl Escribi�:

In my opinion, it's a great "comedown" track after the explosive and disorienting journey of Dig Your Own Hole. It sort of sets you up for the final lift off that's the Private Psychadelic Reel, the calm before the storm.

i disagree with that, i think "where do i begin" was badly placed...DYOH is such an agreesive and abusively loud album. To give pitty to the listeners ears is the last thing they should have done. They should have put another loud blasting beat in place of "where do i begin" unstead they gave mercy to the listeners ears.....remember, you gotta kick when they're down!

It's a calm before the storm that is TPPR 8)

i prefer the state we are in over where do i begin any day.

Tom+Ed+Beth= SOLID GOLD!!!

I think you all are wasting a perfectly good opportunity to flame a fuckwit, and instead talking about the music.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

I think you all are wasting a perfectly good opportunity to flame a fuckwit, and instead talking about the music.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft!!!!! :P

Bosco Escribi�:

whirlygirl Escribi�:

In my opinion, it's a great "comedown" track after the explosive and disorienting journey of Dig Your Own Hole. It sort of sets you up for the final lift off that's the Private Psychadelic Reel, the calm before the storm.

i disagree with that, i think "where do i begin" was badly placed...DYOH is such an agreesive and abusively loud album. To give pitty to the listeners ears is the last thing they should have done. They should have put another loud blasting beat in place of "where do i begin" unstead they gave mercy to the listeners ears.....remember, you gotta kick when they're down!

Again, about the "peaks and valleys" I brought up earlier...



That's not my saying, "peaks and valleys" is straight out of Tom and Ed's mouths - that's the way their albums work, that's the way they've described their albums, and that's as much a part of the (trademark, in my opinion) Chemical formula as the "peaks and valleys" present within their songs. Even the most thunderous and pounding of Chems tracks do have some breathing space in there somewhere. The formulaic context of their albums work the same way as the individual songs, and the same peaks and valleys apply to their live sets. The word synergy keeps popping into my head here...



Anywho. Dig Your Own Hole is the most bombastic of all the Chems albums, so I agree with you when you say it's agressive and abusive. But the breathing space that Where Do I Begin affords the listener is crucial to the sum of the album's parts. Like I said it's the calm before that spectacular closing song Private Psychadelic Reel. I think that's why Chico's Groove and One Too Many Mornings works within the context of Exit Planet Dust, or why Close Your Eyes even though it's like a polar opposite of Left Right, works so well within the context of Push The Button.



If the Chems hadn't put Where Do I Begin where it is on Dig Your Own Hole, then the album would've been in danger of being just another noisy record that's too exhaustive for the listener to give another listen. And that's Prodigy's job with Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. hehe.



But it's all really a matter of opinion by now, isn't it! ;)

whirlygirl Escribi�:

If the Chems hadn't put Where Do I Begin where it is on Dig Your Own Hole, then the album would've been in danger of being just another noisy record that's too exhaustive for the listener to give another listen. And that's Prodigy's job with Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. hehe.

but thats what it is...Its the chemical brothers at their most loudest and repetitiveness which technically does makes it an exhaustive album. Its deffinately not an album for easy listening or to chill too, except for the track "where do i begin." I can see how the calm before the storm thing is cool and all, but i figure if the theme of the album was to basically unleash dirty, loud, and agressive repetitive beats,... then follow through with it(plus, metaphors are overrated :P ). Dont switch the additude of the album right before you throw out a strong ending in the "tppr". DYOH was so strongly an album of no variety, that it mad no sense in wasting a light sided track. I believe the track "dont stop the rock," is litteraly the point im trying to make on this subject.



In my opinion, i thought it would have been better if they switched "where do i begin" to a b-side, or had mad it as its own single release... kinda like the "loops of fury" EP and then put "Not Another Drugstore" in place of "where do i begin" on DYOH.



So dont perceive me as disliking this album, cause its one of my favorites, its just a spot where i disagreed with where they placed that track. And i know they kinda have a thing with putting beth on the big list.



yes, its my opinion :P

whirlygirl Escribi�:

If the Chems hadn't put Where Do I Begin where it is on Dig Your Own Hole, then the album would've been in danger of being just another noisy record that's too exhaustive for the listener to give another listen. And that's Prodigy's job with Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. hehe.



But it's all really a matter of opinion by now, isn't it! ;)

8O I consider Medusa's path as a resting point on that album.



As on DYOH there a 3 more relaxing tunes on it. 1 is Where do I begin but before that we already have Lost in the K-hole which is more of a valley (to quote Whirly) iom than Where do I begin and also Piku isn't a heavy tune as the rest of the album is.



But I agree with Whirly that a Chems trademark is the ups and downs in all their albums. If DYOH would have been a complete beats album it certainly wouldn't be as listenable as it still is now.

The boys model their albums after a nice hit of E... all peaks and valleys.

Definetly a breath of air was needed before The Reel. Love DYOH, but it would be too much without a breather. The effect of The Reel would be lost otherwise.



I want a new Beth track.

iguanapunk Escribi�:

8O Are you talking about the drums? The whole track builds up to that and it ends perfectly! Unless you're talking about the mix into TPPR?

Yeah, those drums on the end of the track are horrible. those are very boring and all end is too long...

equinoxe24 Escribi�:

iguanapunk Escribi�:

8O Are you talking about the drums? The whole track builds up to that and it ends perfectly! Unless you're talking about the mix into TPPR?

Yeah, those drums on the end of the track are horrible. those are very boring and all end is too long...

It's all about building back up the electronic vibe after what is, after all, a very organic song, and getting primed for The Reel.

BTW, I now believe that The Private Psychedelic Reel should no longer be referred to as such and should be abbreviated as TPPR or as The Reel. It is blasphemous to utter the full name of THAT song.



After seeing it live, I now bow down to the power of The Reel in a way I never did before.

Hehehee The Reel _0_ I bow for my master !!! _0_

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Definetly a breath of air was needed before The Reel. Love DYOH, but it would be too much without a breather. The effect of The Reel would be lost otherwise.



I want a new Beth track.

Then go out and buy one of her albums.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Definetly a breath of air was needed before The Reel. Love DYOH, but it would be too much without a breather. The effect of The Reel would be lost otherwise.

Indeed.