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but I don't think it sounds as dated as FOTL.

What the . . .?! }:-@

I like the album a lot, but it sounds so 1997 to me.

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One can not say AONO sucks for any reason. It's different, i agree. But if it had come out some years earlier all the people and critics that trash it now would have said it's ground breaking and new. Would go that far to say even you Slipvin ;-)

And me too. And that's the problem - a few of the tracks sound fresh (girls, hotride, medusa's path) and the rest sound outdated, or just plain crap.



They need to let go of this whole attitudey aggressive thing. Experience, Jilted and Fat of the Land had alot more to them than just aggression and attitude, they were actually really decent albums (FOTL less so - great tracks but doesn't work that well as an album).



All AONO's got is attitude and aggression, and that's not enough to keep people's attention. They should've learnt from "Baby's got a temper", you need more than that. Firestarter is alot like BGAT, but it's actually an interesting track with alot of unique sounds, rhythms and sections, they do that aggression and attitude in a different way.



In my opinion, Prodigy peaked at Jilted. FOTL is technically better, but it's a little too commercial to outdo Jilted. I reckon after FOTL they should have gone back to producing proper dance records like Experience and Jilted. FOTL got them all the money they needed I'm sure, and if anyone can revolutionize dance twice in a lifetime it's Liam Howlett.

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Btw, thanks for the info ipunk! Hope you don't mind if i'm spreading this information elsewhere . . .

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The Prodigy; keeping big beat alive...unlike the chems





:o Did he just say that? I think he did 8O

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One can not say AONO sucks for any reason. It's different, i agree. But if it had come out some years earlier all the people and critics that trash it now would have said it's ground breaking and new. Would go that far to say even you Slipvin ;-)

The bridge between expections and what you finally get is always a bit waggly. Things can grow and so happened to me with AONO. I kinda like it now although i disliked it when it was released.





Btw, thanks for the info ipunk! Hope you don't mind if i'm spreading this information elsewhere . . .

Yeah, it's different, but it still sucks. It's a boring loopy mess. The only ones who got any profit out of this is Propellorhead with it's shameless Reason promotion.

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Btw, thanks for the info ipunk! Hope you don't mind if i'm spreading this information elsewhere . . .

Spread the love <3



The Prodigy; keeping big beat alive...unlike the chems





:o Did he just say that? I think he did 8O

That's too bad people still feel this way. Really, it is. The Chems being a major player of Big Beat - has anyone though that maybe, just maybe they didn't set out to be the prime movers and shakers of big beat and their being linked to that phenomenon just sort of happened - you know, right place, right time, music fits the mood, sign o'the times, etc. etc.? The Chems were considered a lot of things, the big beat label just stuck. Those days were great but it's been about 10 years, more than 10 years - time to move on. Since when have the Brothers ever said they want their music to be pigeonholed. Good for them to hang up the big beat towel, expand on their horizons and free themselves from such a boxed-in genre. I think it's sadly shortsighted to expect the Chemical Brothers to make only a certain kind of music when they've proven they have what it takes to transgress musical boundaries. People have every right to long for the good old days, or to dislike the current path they are on - and that is fine and we can argue and agree to disagree, we are opinionated. But to me it says a lot about an artist or a band if they are willing to grow, take risks and change and expand on what they already know.



Shit. I may not like AONO, I can't stand it actually - Like most here I prefer the old stuff and think Fat of the Land was the pinnacle here in the States... I may not like the path the Prodigy is on nowadays and there's a couple of bands I absolutely adore that have lost me along the way... But on the other hand if Liam's been through heavy agressive shit in his life and the music is a reflection of that and it is how he chooses to grow musically, then more power to him for putting himself out there. I just think it would be goofy for me to sit around wishing the Prodigy would make the same kind of music they made 10 years ago. It doesn't make sense. Times change, so do we - music's always been a sign of the times...

I don't feel the aggression on the album as strongly as some of you seem to. For me it's more of a snarling sexuality. It works as a rock record and as a dance record. Of course, as I always say, to each their own.



And I agree with you totally about the Chems comments, Whirly. I hate genrification. Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?" But I never can give much of a straight answer because most of what I dig cuts across genres. Tom and Ed, as we can see in their DJ sets from the beginning right through until now, were always about finding good music regardless of the source. This attitude has always been a cornerstone of their production as well. Big beat is never a label that has hung properly around their necks as far as I'm concerned.

The Chems are the gods - they just keep growing, and I don't think they'll ever lose the big drums, big sirens streak to them - it still does show all over, tho they've got much more into the serious vocals based songwriting - they define their own playingfield and then outgrow and outshine it everytime.



About Prodigy, I never really loved FOTL as much as the first two, the first being my alltime favourite from Liam's stable.

On AONO, I've posted lots when the album came out, but I liked the album a lot when it was released, then lost interest, but when I started hearing it again, I ended up really liking it. I guess it was just the mindset I went in with to hear AONO and it was exactly the same as FOTL.

I think AONO's pretty brilliant and Liam's gonna stay on my list of musical geniuses. Power to him and Prodigy and the new album!

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I don't feel the aggression on the album as strongly as some of you seem to. For me it's more of a snarling sexuality. It works as a rock record and as a dance record. Of course, as I always say, to each their own.



And I agree with you totally about the Chems comments, Whirly. I hate genrification. Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?" But I never can give much of a straight answer because most of what I dig cuts across genres. Tom and Ed, as we can see in their DJ sets from the beginning right through until now, were always about finding good music regardless of the source. This attitude has always been a cornerstone of their production as well. Big beat is never a label that has hung properly around their necks as far as I'm concerned.

And one should never forget that Prodigy (Liam, Keith) has its roots in punk music. The album itself isn't that aggressive imo a bit loopy, ok, i go witht that.

Something to Big Beat:

imo this kind of music is one of the freest, most boundless and versatile genres i know. Anything is allowed, nothing is limiting you. That is why i'm still believe the chems' music still has much of this genre and its elements (consciously or unconsciously). Think of GYH's little break at the end or The Boxer, Marvo Ging, the break in Come With Us, Freak Of The Week, HBHG or the recently released EBW 8. It's not just a matter of beats, moreover a matter of how you do things (choice of samples, arrangements, sounds, effects).



Anyways, putting an artist into any category is always a bit plain eventually.

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Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?"

Just say 'techno'. Its the only answer most folks will understand, and it's worked for more than a decade.

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snarling sexuality.

wow, that's a good way to describe it. In fact, that's spot on!



Oh and i'm happy with the path the chems have taken, don't get me wrong. If they'd stuck where they were we wouldn't have got to hear some of the gems they have created.

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Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?"

Just say 'techno'. Its the only answer most folks will understand, and it's worked for more than a decade.

haha I never say Techno. It feels wrong X-D

i hate it when americans desbribe all electronic music as techno like it is a dirty word.

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Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?"

Just say 'techno'. Its the only answer most folks will understand, and it's worked for more than a decade.

And when people who have something of an idea of the dance sub-genres asks?

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i hate it when americans desbribe all electronic music as techno like it is a dirty word.

"And Moby? You can get stomped by Obie

You thirty-six year old baldheaded fag, blow me

You don't know me, you're too old, let go It's over, nobody listen to techno"

I listen Electronica, but not the one that you can listen anywhere here, it's the kind that you might dislike.

That's what I say when they ask me.





AONO

I thought it was a bad album, and it's still that way.

A little bit loopy? Cmon!

Spitfire for example could be cut at the middle, the second half is just a repetition of the first part. It's one of the only songs that I like from that album, but I don't like that repetition.



And I can feel de aggression too, it's like if a girl was dancing in front of me, but instead of dancing in a nice way (first 3 albums), she's just pushing me without any reason and she isn't paying attention to the music.





New record label and new album.

Well, I just hope those two things are for better.

I would love to see the guys from Pendulum giving a little hand in some of their songs.





Chems.

What can I say... well, the same as always.

<3 bigbeat <3 breakbeat <3 Exit Planet Dust <3



And here's when I drop the bomb.

I dislike EBW 8/9.

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Sometimes it's nice to have a coherent answer when people ask you "what kind of music do you listen to?"

Just say 'techno'. Its the only answer most folks will understand, and it's worked for more than a decade.

And when people who have something of an idea of the dance sub-genres asks?

Dance subgenres are the territory of pretentious wankers, and I wouldn't speak to people like that.



It's all techno or electronica.



:P

even worse are people who say they like IDM.



Fuck IDM. IDM sounds like getting a synth crammed up your ass by a buncha homocidal robots. Never has the old 1950's parents complaint of 'What a buncha NOISE!' been more true than when it comes to 'IDM'



it should stand for 'I'm deaf, me'

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AONO really sucked ass.

Not as much as you do



I'm with iggy, I love AONO. It's a really good album. Maybe I really like it because I was not a lot into Prodigy whent it came out. I didn't know Music for the jilted generation and Experience. Yet I really love those two albums too, now that I know them.



The only thing I dislike about Prodigy is it's not a one man band. Keith and Maxim are really useless and annoying. Liam should go solo...