Consumer Escribi�:

iguanapunk Escribi�:

fermadero Escribi�:

99% of the people are really ungry.

Can't they just make a sandwich, it's not that difficult.

You cheeky bugger iguanapunk! X-D



I shouldn't laugh, it's a shame the organisers failed the Chems and the crowd. :(



Shit! This topic has had nearly 500 hits in just over 24 hours.... that's a lot of people reading this stuff....



....hey, umm, any South American chicks can stay with me and see the Chems in January, if they want. ;)

Haha! I'll keep that in mind... :D

Consumer Escribi�:

it's a shame the organisers failed the Chems and the crowd. :(



Shit! This topic has had nearly 500 hits in just over 24 hours.... that's a lot of people reading this stuff....

Consumer, you're so right it's shameful the people in charge fucked up so royally at so many people's expense!! I'm glad the blame isn't squarely set on Tom and Ed. What a disappointment all around.



Mai, I really enjoyed what you had to say, it sounds like you made the most out of the situation there.



Those seem like good threads in the other forums with lots of info, not just two word replies - thanks to those who supplied the links, I'd like to read them but don't know the language. Anyone know a good way to translate those pages?

I am really pissed with the organizers of the show. They knew it could rain (it is not such a remote possibility) and they could have prevent this. I don�t expect them to protect the audience but couldn�t they protect the equipment ? Is that too much to ask ? It was a very expensive ticket for us for an hour show with a very poor sound. The crowd was really great and tried to forget about the rain and wind. We all did our best to have a great time, but it was really hard

For all of you who want to complain with the ones who organized this gig here are some emails:



This show was organized by Telefonica, Unifon, Pacha between others:

prensa.corporativo@telefonica.com.ar

prensa@unifon.com.ar

info@pacha-ba.com

diegom@ticketek.com.ar



If we don�t want this to happen again (and it is not the first time...) send a message to this guys. We ought to defend our rights, dont we ?



Hope we have another oportunity to enjoy a REAL Chemical Brothers show.

morubi Escribi�:

I am really pissed with the organizers of the show. They knew it could rain (it is not such a remote possibility) and they could have prevent this. I don�t expect them to protect the audience but couldn�t they protect the equipment ? Is that too much to ask ? It was a very expensive ticket for us for an hour show with a very poor sound. The crowd was really great and tried to forget about the rain and wind. We all did our best to have a great time, but it was really hard

For all of you who want to complain with the ones who organized this gig here are some emails:



This show was organized by Telefonica, Unifon, Pacha between others:

prensa.corporativo@telefonica.com.ar

prensa@unifon.com.ar

info@pacha-ba.com

diegom@ticketek.com.ar



If we don�t want this to happen again (and it is not the first time...) send a message to this guys. We ought to defend our rights, dont we ?



Hope we have another oportunity to enjoy a REAL Chemical Brothers show.

Morubi, didn't you think that the "poor" sound seemed to be like that because of the strong wind? It didn't seem "poor" to other people. I think that maybe depended of in which place of the field the people was.

(Sorry if I don't write in spanish, but if I did, the rest of the persons wouldn't understand us. Fortunately they understand my bad english, just like Whirlygirl, who I think understood the way I felt and what I meant). :)

fermadero Escribi�:

..."Some people were so concerned with the amount of time the Brothers were going to play that they didn't seem to enjoy themselves"... When you pay a considerable ammount of money you are not expecting to see a short set and also an incredible lack of respect towards the audience from the producer in Argentina, wich knew a week before that it was going to rain. The price of the ticket was really high, the organization was horrible and finally the set was short... What shoud I say... Please check one of the most important forums of electronic music in argentina http://www.buenosali...cfm/id.8533.cfm, 99% of the people are really ungry.

What people don't seem to get is that the set was not going to be much longer anyway... please check the sets they've been playing. Check out the Creamfields set: there were just five tracks the Chems skipped in our show. It's a shame indeed, but it's not that the show was going to last one more hour.

You paid the ticket to see an spectacular show, and you did. If you didn't feel the ticket price was worth it unless they played a lot of time, you should have thought again. No one forced you to buy it.

And the sound was spectacular, so don't complain about that.

I'm really anoyed about what happenen last Friday 22. The show wasn't what I expectated and no because of the rain but for the poor organization.

This people make the music sound at a slow volume, despite they didn't prevent that setting the stage neer the river wouldn't be the optimal solution, also they do not put a "roof" for the artist or a tent for the crow such as to aboid the break. I'm really sad and i think that the shows could have been suspended instead of being what is was.

I want my money back because i did not paid what i see and listened to.



Tom�s

Chango Escribi�:

I'm really anoyed about what happenen last Friday 22. The show wasn't what I expectated and no because of the rain but for the poor organization.

This people make the music sound at a slow volume, despite they didn't prevent that setting the stage neer the river wouldn't be the optimal solution, also they do not put a "roof" for the artist or a tent for the crow such as to aboid the break. I'm really sad and i think that the shows could have been suspended instead of being what is was.

I want my money back because i did not paid what i see and listened to.



Tom�s

You wanted the show to be suspended just because they cut 20 minutes off the set? You got The Private Psychedelic Reel



It's funny how all the people at Buenos Aliens who complained about the show never seemed to mention the music- just the time they played. There were vague mentions of songs here and there, but no one ever cared to post a setlist. No one even mentioned that they played a new song... and one complained about the Chems not playing It began in Afrika and Denmark, which were never played anywhere this year.

Maybe we don�t mention the playlist because we were freezing and all wet. Maybe because the show was stopped because of the rain. This shouldn�t happen... They should have a roof to protect the equipment. That is not too much to ask for what we were paying.

We don�t blame The Chemical Brothers, we blame the organization because we know who they are and this is not the first time they don�t take into consideration basic things such as rain....

I too think it's a shame that the set was short, but people are acting like sissies. Complaining too much about the rain! Sometimes it rains in outdoors shows. It happens all around the world.

There was a roof to protect the equipment, the rain entered the stage because someone had the great idea to take out the "lona" that was at the back of the stage.

I'm not saying that the organization wasn't terrible. I'm just saying that it was a great experience anyway and I wouldn't have missed it for anything in the world.

I�m not against the Chems :? , they were brilliant during that less than an hour set... but the set was extremelly short. Please, try to come back to Buenos Aires , that one could be the only way to forget this huge problem X-D

Come on, we deserve a second chance... (I hope some kind of a carp -or big umbrella- for the next time ;-) )



The best for you guys (but not for the organizers, we hate you... :x )



See ya! (I need to take some aspirins for my "Friday�s nite cold"

morubi Escribi�:

This show was organized by Telefonica, Unifon, Pacha between others:

well you would have thought if pacha was involved, the worlds biggest club franchise. they would have the experience to get things right. every one is saying that this event was expensive, that sounds like pacha!!!



i cant help but fell with the mexico shows pulled by the promoters, and the problems with the buenos aries pacha festival. that the chems have some unfinished buisness in south america, i'm sure they will be back when the tour chemical 5.

}:-@ i hate the promoters

People of Buenos Aires (and others argentinian states who could go to Pacha): STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SOUND. It wasn't poor or low or whatever you are saying. There was a really strong wind, didn't you realize about it? Did you just notice the intense rain?

I think we should be more than very grateful with the CB because I'm sure they didn't want to play, and if it was that way I understand them. It was too dangerous for them (water + electricity + electric storm + strong wind! Come on, think!) and their equipments. Be more considerated with 2 guys who played because they had to and think a little a bit about if it was as bad as you say. They played the most of the tracklist. It would be better if you thought that it was really good, consederating the conditions and the situation they had to go through.

I think it will be really hard for them to come back, and I hate to believe that.

If you have something to say, go and tell Grinbak. This is all his fault.

Once again, nobody is blaming the chems, we just want them to know about our discontent for them not to organize a show with these guys NEVER again. Of course they did the best they could do under the circumstances...

And I AM telling Grinbank and all the sponsors what I think. That was the first thing I did....

But the idea of exchanging our experiences here is to find other people that think like you and join to make a serious complain to the organizers.



PS. The wind making the sound poor should have been prevented with a tent or something.... Come on ! Everybody knows that in that part of the city (the riverside) there is always going to be wind...

morubi Escribi�:

Once again, nobody is blaming the chems, we just want them to know about our discontent for them not to organize a show with these guys NEVER again. Of course they did the best they could do under the circumstances...

And I AM telling Grinbank and all the sponsors what I think. That was the first thing I did....

But the idea of exchanging our experiences here is to find other people that think like you and join to make a serious complain to the organizers.



PS. The wind making the sound poor should have been prevented with a tent or something.... Come on ! Everybody knows that in that part of the city (the riverside) there is always going to be wind...

Right Moira, got your idea. ;-)

Wish that some other promoter could bring them. Nobody should trust

that guy, Daniel Grinbak, anymore. Never again.

I payed for a complete thing. I dont care if they play just one amazing song. The ticket price was for 1 1/2 hs set. You may be a complete fan of the band and be happy by just seen them on stage. I payed for something that didnt happen. And the ticket price was high, son it is expected to happen as they say. I care about the new song and the shorter set they gave, buy that was not what it was estipulated on the contract you do when you buy the ticket.

fermadero Escribi�:

I payed for a complete thing. I dont care if they play just one amazing song. The ticket price was for 1 1/2 hs set. You may be a complete fan of the band and be happy by just seen them on stage. I payed for something that didnt happen. And the ticket price was high, son it is expected to happen as they say. I care about the new song and the shorter set they gave, buy that was not what it was estipulated on the contract you do when you buy the ticket.

Once again: it wasn't Chems fault. If you were them, would you play having in mind the risk of electrocuting you because you're under the rain and your equipments are completely wet? Did you know that water and electricity don't mix? Where were you? Where were you located? Were you drunk or something? :) On stage it was raining AS MUCH AS IN THE FIELD. In case you couldn't see it, I did, I could see what happened and all the water they had everywhere.

The organization would have to protect the stage and the equipment by putting something if they weren't going to suspend the show, not the Chems, who did the best they could, and I'm sure they felt as disappointed, angry or frustrated as we felt, or even more.

Dear Fermadero, I feel just as sad as you must feel, but I tried to enjoy it as much as I could, I try to see both sides, the negative and the positive, not just one.

I'm sure you are able to discern and you know to who to direct your complaints, and you know that the persons who should compensate you are not precisely the Chems. :-|

fermadero Escribi�:

I payed for a complete thing. I dont care if they play just one amazing song. The ticket price was for 1 1/2 hs set. You may be a complete fan of the band and be happy by just seen them on stage. I payed for something that didnt happen. And the ticket price was high, son it is expected to happen as they say. I care about the new song and the shorter set they gave, buy that was not what it was estipulated on the contract you do when you buy the ticket.

What contract? When you bought the ticket, it didn't say anywhere how much time they were going to play. They posted the schedule only some days before the show.

Argentinians.. so typical. I must say that in Chile, the show was amazing, we had a beautiful and warm spring's day, the Chems started at 22.45 more or less, and played till after midnight! excelent multimedial effects on the screens, the clown of Acid Children was cool, the stadium was full with more than 15.000 people jumping and dancing their songs. Awesome! Even in the middle of the gig we looked to the sky and we saw a huge ring surrounding the moon.. absolutely magical, it had to happen during a Chems concert! Now, let's just talk about the gig.. complainings? to organization people ! And remember: LOVE-IS-ALL ;)

Carola Martinez Escribi�:

Argentinians.. so typical. I must say that in Chile, the show was amazing, we had a beautiful and warm spring's day, the Chems started at 22.45 more or less, and played till after midnight! excelent multimedial effects on the screens, the clown of Acid Children was cool, the stadium was full with more than 15.000 people jumping and dancing their songs. Awesome! Even in the middle of the gig we looked to the sky and we saw a huge ring surrounding the moon.. absolutely magical, it had to happen during a Chems concert! Now, let's just talk about the gig.. complainings? to organization people ! And remember: LOVE-IS-ALL ;)

Carola, I'm really glad you had that wonderful night and the show was so great (did you expect less than that?;)). But try not to say "argentinians, so typical". Try not to be gressive and avoid those comments, we are trying to give our opinion in a forum, I'm sure if something bad had happened there, you'd have something to say about it. This sort of things can happen anywhere, and bad promoters are everywhere. I'm glad it didn't happen there in your country and all of you could enjoy a show without problems.

Take care!