first order of business, I've kept my mouth shut about people pirating this album, and now I have a few words for you.

You're all fucking impatient nitwits.

You have no fucking clue, how important the visuals are to the experience. I can easily say, this is without a doubt, Tom and Ed's most important work to date. So for those smart and fortunate people who have been patient, I urge you to stay patient. Make sure you witness the album in full via the visual experience dvd, trust me, you wont regret it.

seriously, those who first listen to the album without the visual experience, are truly doing themselves a disservice

I'm basically repeating myself, but for good reason

To those of you who couldn't wait - and downloaded the album - when you get a hold of the visuals to accompany the music the complete body of work will exceed and complete all expectations and hopes you have for Further. Honestly. I do truly understand not wanting to wait. I have been guilty of taking things before their time in the past. But Further is every *bit* worth the wait! It's breathtaking and is such a unique musical journey. To those of you waiting - please just hang on. Just a little bit longer. I cannot express enough how fantastic it will be when the time comes!

I have decided to freeze myself...BRB

I am now in the process of playing the waiting game.....In other words it is downloading (on Itunes) as we speak.....
EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE
(that is me squealing like a schoolgirl)

I do not doubt that the visual experience to Further is one which heightens the album, but my auditory input is much, much more sensitive and receptive than my visual input. I suppose playing piano for 23 years will do that to you...

I'm really looking forward, however, to seeing how the visuals for the album will expand what I get from the music. I have a feeling this album is going to be inspirational for a number of people on a number of levels.

I think for the most of us, the audio element almost always comes first when selling us something that has to do with music. However, on the certain special occasion (like this one), you get a perfect merging of two elements. And the result is, both audiophiles and videophiles, creaming their pants.

Comparable 'big budget' occasions:

2001: A Space Odyssey
Fantasia
Koyaanisqatsi
Blade Runner

i'm not a very visuals person - i am not averse to them, i love films, but i've never been a fan of the typical videos that go out with music releases - i am guilty of not having seen even videos of some of my most fav songs and artistes. i always feel the video narrows down your perception and experience of the song - if it's a great video, you always associate the song with it - I always think of the Golden Path video whenever the song plays. I like to keep my options open there n not be locked to strong visual associations.
having said that i'm very kicked about the chems putting out something visual as part of the experience - i have always loved the live visuals the chems have as part of their live show - but even if i had the dvd+cd together, i'd still hear the audio first and form my own associations around the audio experience first before i see the dvd.
from reactions above and what whirly told me i hope i can find a break to the US itunes pass by tonight - i really want to see these!

I think I can wait for the visuals. I'm more in fond of music than films.
But if I find the video of the visuals, I'll download it anyway, cause I can't buy it yet, what makes me angry you know.

I can completely back Bosco up here. Wait for the visuals, trust me, you won't be sorry.

I was the other way too, coming into this. I prefer to hear the audio before seeing what's been paired with it. But when the iTunes Pass gave me the opportunity to see and hear Further weeks before the 22nd, I took it. I don't regret it at all. The audio and visuals complement each other so well, it's amazing. Seeing Snow is absolutely fantastic, breathtaking even. Escape Velocity's crazy cool, extremely immersive, and really innovative. Dissolve is wicked in so many ways. Hearing Further and seeing Further for the first time, at the same time, was mindblowingly insane. If you really think that your first Further experience will be better as audio alone, you're wrong. No questions asked.

I had the best time watching it. All the lights off, full screen, face about six inches away from the screen, high quality headphones on, volume at an unsafe level. I watched Further and forgot about the world.

I know it's hard to wait, and it might seem better to listen to the music first, but don't. You need to experence this all at once. Anyone who's already listened to it, sorry, but you missed out BIG TIME.

I'm djing next Sunday, so will be buying the vinyl & and DVD on Monday. Then all I need to do is decide on which track to play hmm.

Can't wait for the DVD, the visuals at the Roundhouse were immense!

imagine them live!

i feel good that i waited, but im probably going to first listen to the album driving around in the car with my brother. also at first i thought that this thing that they released was in the making of th visuals, i did not know it was the songs and videos, they should of just released the whole album, but whatever im so happy!!!!!!!!!!! and congradulations to tom and ed, you guys never fail to succeed!

jamalchang, on 08 June 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

DON'T!!!

I'm sorry, but please please, do your first listen with the visuals. I mean it. It is life changing. Having your first listen in a car is no way to do this.

WhiteNoise, on 08 June 2010 - 10:49 PM, said:

ok, i have a nice tv i can put it on, i just need to get a plug that connects computer to tv, cause i tried putting it on blank cd to put in a dvd player but only the sound was coming out

Try burning it on a blank DVD instead of a CD.

just heard the whole album on my mac pro, couldn't get it through to my tv, but the screen is is big on my computer and i was using a big bose speaker. I must say this is my favorite chemical brothers album!!!!!!!!!! me and my bro were going crazy over it, we loved the visuals to escape velocity! Some of are high lights were probably snow escape velocity, dissolve and wonders! congrats again brothers!

Thumbs up for you!

It's all relative really. The experience could be better with or without visual depending on any given person and or situation.

When we experiences the first listen of something, our brains form neural connections(synapses)and this is where our immediate perception is formed as well as our future relations and perceptions will be linked.

Perhaps it's better to hear the new album as a music only experience? Not letting any visual thing alter your perception of any given sound, drum pattern, bass line or breakdown?

Or perhaps it's better to have a visual reference to coincide with the sounds you are hearing during the first listen? Perhaps the visual element provides a memory landmark(if you will) to empathize any given sound, drum pattern, bass line or breakdown?

Really...it all fucking depends.



The very first time I heard MGMT's kids, I fell in love with the track..I mean, it was instantaneous for me and that is somewhat of a rarity. I listened to the track over and over and during those listens, I formed my own neural connections and I formed my own personal cognitive relationship with the music. Months and months later, I saw the video for said track and it didn't even come close to the visual beauty that I formed inside my head. It was so off-putting, that I thought to myself that if i had seen the video first, my love for the track wouldn't even be a fraction of what it was. Their decided visual element was horrible compared to the one my brain had created on it's own. Mine had an emotional linkage that involved the recent birth of my first kid while their visual had stupid aerobics and Kiss masks. ugh!


...but set that aside for a moment.

think about your own Chemical Brothers experiences.

didn't most of you fall in love with the music first?

...and then fall in love with the visual element when seeing them live(if u have had the chance)?


to me, falling in love with the music and then getting to fall in love all over again with a respective visual representation sounds like it could be a winner. I dunno.







so for my personal choice this time around? well, I would have been happy listening to my illegal mp3 copy and then watching the video, I am going to watch the video from iTunes first. all the way through.

I got the mp3 copy on Sunday and got blitzed in anticipation for my first listen, but as I was drinking and getting ready, I kept offering myself opening acts(other tunes I recently got). When I finally decided I wanted to hear my headlining act, I was way to drunk and I passed out. I don't remember any of it.

...so tonight, I will just go with the video! : )


..which means there is a trust factor. unlike MGMT's visual decisions, I fully trust the Chems. I have never been unimpressed...and that's going back to 13 or so years ago, when the show would start off with purple rotating lights one the stage. blew my mind then...yes it did.

Bosco, on 08 June 2010 - 08:25 AM, said:

did I do myself a disservice the first time I heard the private psychedelic reel?





it blew my mind...




big time!






...and that was without the Christian themed stained glass imagery.


I would imagine it was the same deal with you....right?




I would imagine that this album was created as a music thing first and a visual thing second, right? or did the Chemical Brothers create a soundtrack to an Adam Smith movie?


don't get it twisted.




the notion that some people are putting forth is almost the same notion that says "you have to see them live first...before you ever listen to their CDs....otherwise, it's a disservice."


right?


does one have to see them live to fall in love with and appreciate the music of the chemical brothers? fuck no!



but yeah, seeing them live seems to fucking work for sure!! : )