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I voted as Surface2air so i wont vote again as Jeanie.

Hope ya'll agree with this way of trying to figure out what to do!

I'll leave the poll open for a month.

Hugs!

Easy:Make new board NOW!

Let's see if I can sort of cross-post this message here and to the discussion topic.



My view: NEW BOARD



I don't understand this "hacking" idea at all. Sure if someone is able to compromise the server and take control of it then we would get to somewhere but that's a) hard and b) probably very illegal and c) would gather some attention (the wrong kind).



I think the "hacking" people are actually suggesting here is that we only need to gain access to the administrator account. Wrong! There is no admin checklist item for: "Would you like to have spambots swamping your board? [ ] Yes [ ] No". phpboard and other common forum software is constantly getting hacked to pieces by spammers which leads to new security holes and therefore more access for the spammers. This forum has been running from I guess the year 2002, the forum software is likely to be from that year or even older. In that time probably a zillion exploits have been discovered.

soundertow Escribi�:

Let's see if I can sort of cross-post this message here and to the discussion topic.



My view: NEW BOARD



I don't understand this "hacking" idea at all. Sure if someone is able to compromise the server and take control of it then we would get to somewhere but that's a) hard and b) probably very illegal and c) would gather some attention (the wrong kind).



I think the "hacking" people are actually suggesting here is that we only need to gain access to the administrator account. Wrong! There is no admin checklist item for: "Would you like to have spambots swamping your board? [ ] Yes [ ] No". phpboard and other common forum software is constantly getting hacked to pieces by spammers which leads to new security holes and therefore more access for the spammers. This forum has been running from I guess the year 2002, the forum software is likely to be from that year or even older. In that time probably a zillion exploits have been discovered.

sondertow speaks the truth.

The concept of a new board is cool, but in reality, it would wither and die.



Frankly, as much as I hate to admit it, we need to occasional newbie to come along and stimulate things. We need Tom and Ed to come by and say a few words once in awhile.



We wouldn't get these things on a new board, no matter how many sticky threads we had pointing people there.



Frankly, I think we should be self governing and just hand out the mod password to everyone.



Except Slipvin.

Hmmm i didn't know that.



I thought the people who were talking about "hacking this board"had good reasons to believe that was the right descision. Hence that i choose "first hack , THAN new board " But soundertows post puts new light on this case as we say in holland :P

Lets see what everybody else chooses.

There is no 'hacking the board'... the suggestion I had a while ago was trying to guess the admins password. Not impossible, but merely very, very improbable.



With that, we could ban IPs and block a lot of the spam, as well as mod other people.

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Oh fuck i'm sorry - this 2 accounts are hard to seperate !! ;)

I think the new board would be a temporary solution, we could move back if the admin wakes up one day. It's true that we would lose some fraction of new users but you could also reason in the way that new users already have to find this forum and it is just one additional hoop to jump through to the next one. So I would say we don't know if we would end up without any new users unless we try.



We cannot fight machines on their terms. One spambot can flood the board with so many posts that even if we all act as moderators and say remove 100 posts per day per person we would still drown.

Def agreed!

And some of us on the board def have the tools to let Ed know.

New members...well....it can't be THAT hard to click on a link , can it 8O

surface2air Escribi�:

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

The concept of a new board is cool, but in reality, it would wither and die.



Frankly, as much as I hate to admit it, we need to occasional newbie to come along and stimulate things. We need Tom and Ed to come by and say a few words once in awhile.



We wouldn't get these things on a new board, no matter how many sticky threads we had pointing people there.



Frankly, I think we should be self governing and just hand out the mod password to everyone.



Except Slipvin.

See , there we go already. Who is going to choose wich persons will be moderating ?!

Whoever makes the new board decides. Or whoever guesses the admin password. Or, like it is now, whoever has the surface2air password.



The interweb is NOT a democracy, nor is freedom of speech a right.

Haven't voted, because I'm still torn.



I like the phpbb style if we do move to a new board, though obv. a newer version is required.



I'm a member of www.sixcrazyminutes.com, a major Liverpool forum, and I love the format and features. It's so familiar coming from this board to there and yet they've got editing, etc. that we've been crying out for for ages.

That's one of the new phpBB style ones, there is another kind that I'm aware of, illustrated by http://www.pumapeople.com/ The layout and usuability is really friendly

chemicalfan Escribi�:

That's one of the new phpBB style ones, there is another kind that I'm aware of, illustrated by http://www.pumapeople.com/ The layout and usuability is really friendly

Now that�s what i call a forum. 8) (Maybe with a silver template to feel more like home)

Nah i would like to keep it simple , like the one we have now!

Chemical Talk - Chemical Sets - Bullshit.



Something like that X-D

Jeanie Escribi�:

Nah i would like to keep it simple , like the one we have now!

Chemical Talk - Chemical Sets - Bullshit.



Something like that X-D

(the style i mean)

I remember I had forums and they were just like these and they were hacked. Oh well, forget the hacking idea.

I really like it on this forum, because its the official one - Im sure there are lots of other forums out there and if another forum is made it would probably die away somewhere and we'd probably end up coming back here.

I say wait around until the admin wakes up/update with chemical6 and in the meantime hand out the mod user and pass to those who come on often like iguana, benj, mips, stash, jeanie, whirly, etc etc - cause were not all online at the same time, so in that sense everyone would be modding instead of putting it down to just one or two people.

Why don't we ask Ed to induce the marketing management to think about updating or even relaunching the old/a new forum? I mean, he often (if i remember correctly) stops by and is reading some of the post here so i'm sure he's getting aware of that spambot issue! Who else is closer to the source that could deal with that? We could write him a PM. Maybe he'll responding. And if yes, we could make suggestion of what the old/new forum needs to prove for the future (edit buttons, other features etc.)...