No no, neither me! There's good pop out there. But I'm always getting strange feelings when the chems are blamed being pop. Feels like you've bitten into a rotten apple. As I said, very personally seen.

Well with your describtion, Jeanie I would say the chems are music artist :lol:

Hmmm nah , i can see where people come from. And it doesnt make me feel weird. I listen to a LOT of pop music. Today , for example , i listen to " Rain down on me" from phill collins and " Where's the party" from Madonna. Fucking love those tunes hahaha. Oh , i will tell you something even worse.

I LIKE THE NEW TIMBERLAKE SONGS.

Yes i do! HA! TAKE THAT!

Nanana, you got me wrong. I really don't mind pop music. Love listen to many tunes of coldplay or alanis morissette, ya know. I'm just getting that feeling when the connection is being made between chems and pop.

What do you mean you know where people come from? From where am I? :lol:

Germany man hahaha. I can sense it because.....confession time....i am half german. Muhaha!

timbalakes production is pretty good.....i like his album timbaland presents. that tune with justin and furtado is great

I think the SOUND of that tune is good. The beats and the sound. I just think the lyrics are a bit silly and i just cannot like Furtado. I think her voice is VERY boring and soul-less.

Ooh no, she's got a great voice. A remarkable one.

You're half German? How come?

"You're half German? How come?"

Well when a german boy puts his thingy in a Dutch girl's stuff, that kind of things happens :)

You can't call PTB pop, not in America. It might have won a grammy, but it was never mainstream, bever 'popular'. I don't think 99% of americans ever heard it, unless it was in the Budweiser commercial, and even then none of them knew who the band was.

Surrender now, Surrender, that was a HUGE pop album in Britain when it came out, because at the time dance music was popular.

But there's a huge differnece between british 'pop' music and american. hell, 'Brit-pop' is it's own genre over here. You can go to clubs and record stores that specialize in Brit-pop.

The british, in general, have much better taste in music than americans.

American pop is, well, complete rubbish that consists of bringing white kids that can dance together with able producers and millions upon millions of dollars worth of marketing.

So I think there's a fundamental disconnect, a cognitive dissonance, that occurs when people try to have a transatlantic conversation about whether something is 'pop' or not.

Nah, ben_J! Thanks for the clarification.

Stash wrote:The british, in general, have much better taste in music than americans

Amen, brother, amen!

Stash wrote:The british, in general, have much better taste in music than americans

Amen, brother, amen!

yeah sure... believe is pop music... right...

let's see the general population blaring that and singing to that...

that'd be weird! and it's a single! galvanize moreso, and the boxer.

but the others would make pop fiends cry and shut you down, trying to tell you what shit it is.

im a musical facist.

and i love good pop music.

as long as its done with honesty and passion - thats what really matters.

can you say annie ? damn, best cheerful playful pop in that sense in the last couple years

When Push The Button was out a couple of months here in the States, the EMD rep that used to come to my store told me that Push The Button had become the selling album the Chems had in the States. Mind you this applied to record sales as well as internet/itunes combined.

Oh - and Block Rockin' Beats won a grammy for best rock instrumental. ;)

Galvanize might not be pop in the traditional sense, but it definitely had pop appeal - there is no denying that. It appealed to a large audience, it got a lot of play. That hook is awfully catchy, isn't it? I dig it.

I thought Do It Again was pop, but that was a snap judgment and I'm happy to take that back and eat my words. Where I was wrong was that Do It Again is a lot darker and more twisted than anything pop you'd here on the radio in the States. But like Galvanize, it's got a catchy hook it makes you want to move, and hopefully it'll appeal to a wide audience. If everyone's dancin', who cares?

Pop has such negative connotations. It doesn't have to be this way. Pop doesn't have to be a bad word, and pop doesn't have to automatically mean it's shit. And yes, the Beatles were considered pop. I wanna hold your hand, love me do - the earlier stuff from the Beatles re-wrote rock n'roll, and they practically defined pop music and took it to places where it never went before. Then they went off and explored the deep end of psychedelia and once again defined their sound and re-wrote the book.

Anyway. The Chems are musicians, artists, brothers and they make great fucking tunes. I wouldn't care if they all of a sudden were considered pop by the masses, and quite frankly I wouldn't care if they ended up pioneering a new sub genre called shit-on-a-shingle. I'd still love them for what I'm hearing.

So suppose there would exist an underground minimal pop-imitational acid track with huge big-beat elements produced by the chems and the crystal method in tandem and featuring in the vocals Wayne Coyne, Kylie Minogue and Justin Timberlake. Would we be allowed to like it?

and also, the beatles more like spice girls

hahaha, soundertow I think you got everything covered! Just about. 8)

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