Yes, but there are people that still consider themselves to be Persian. For ex. I never met an Iranian who said "I am an Iranian" but they are proud to say they are Persian. Their roots and ancestry go deep. So I can see why the fantacized portrayal would tick some people off. 300 - based in historical fact which is fine, the ficticious portrayal is what people are annoyed with. And to top it off with the film not being that good... well... .



It's the same way I felt annoyed (read annoyed, not offended) about how the jews were portrayed in the Passion of the Christ which was based off an insane German nun's psychotic ramblings. But anyway.



But getting riled up over a badly done film... there are bigger fish to fry and more important things to worry about.

whirlygirl Escribi�:

Yes, but there are people that still consider themselves to be Persian. For ex. I never met an Iranian who said "I am an Iranian" but they are proud to say they are Persian. Their roots and ancestry go deep.

Yeah, like I said, completely retarded. Maybe they're ashamed of being Iranian, I don't know.



I'm going to start telling people that I'm Roman, and I'll get all pissed off at HBO for showing romans as bloodthirsty, amoral perverts!



Same thing.

I watched The Illusionist...a very interesting movie...I'll watch it again :D

and last night Dumb and Dumber X-D X-D X-D

I was Serenity and 300 last night. I enjoyed them both. I liked serenity and how it was in the future etc millions of planets away. Kinda cool.



300 was an epic movie I really liked it, mainly cause it was just a bunch of spartans kickin ass and showin no mercy. Amazin! X-D

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

that flick was totally about how the middle east today is holding off the corrupt, decadent West.



Bush is Xerxes, Osama is Leonidas. It's pretty obvious.

wait. what? you're joking,yes? tough to tell with you :P



300 is not the type of movie to love.

it's an ultra-violent font of meaningless entertainment in hi-def glory, brilliantly coloured and with some interesting photography. it has no real historical, literary, or political basis. it's just blood and such, with a couple of sex scenes only due to necessity in that sort of movie. except for the transsexual orgy, that was surprising and welcome.



you can't look for anything more in it. if you want more, if you want quality, you're in the wrong mood for this film!

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

that flick was totally about how the middle east today is holding off the corrupt, decadent West.



Bush is Xerxes, Osama is Leonidas. It's pretty obvious.

wait. what? you're joking,yes? tough to tell with you :P



300 is not the type of movie to love.

it's an ultra-violent font of meaningless entertainment in hi-def glory, brilliantly coloured and with some interesting photography. it has no real historical, literary, or political basis. it's just blood and such, with a couple of sex scenes only due to necessity in that sort of movie. except for the transsexual orgy, that was surprising and welcome.



you can't look for anything more in it. if you want more, if you want quality, you're in the wrong mood for this film!

I agree it's popcorn flick material, but I wouldn't necessarily be quite so quick to dismiss some of the political implications. Perhaps it's more important that some people are taking a political message home from the film that whether or not the director (or Miller) intended one.

GLAKO-FAHN Escribi�:

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

that flick was totally about how the middle east today is holding off the corrupt, decadent West.



Bush is Xerxes, Osama is Leonidas. It's pretty obvious.

wait. what? you're joking,yes? tough to tell with you :P



300 is not the type of movie to love.

it's an ultra-violent font of meaningless entertainment in hi-def glory, brilliantly coloured and with some interesting photography. it has no real historical, literary, or political basis. it's just blood and such, with a couple of sex scenes only due to necessity in that sort of movie. except for the transsexual orgy, that was surprising and welcome.



you can't look for anything more in it. if you want more, if you want quality, you're in the wrong mood for this film!

No dude, I'm not joking.



and there IS a historical basis. Leonidas and 300 spartans, along with 2000-3000 other greeks really held off an army of 2 million for 6 days.

Here's an article about how important 300 is to all filmmaking ever.

300 Changes the CGI Game

MaryAnn Johanson, Mar 14, 2007



Have you seen Singin' in the Rain? It's a fictional story about the very real upheaval that occurred during Hollywood's last great paradigm shift, when films that had been silent suddenly found their voice, and performers who couldn't cope with the combination of emoting and speaking at the same time -- or those whose voices were less than melodious -- suddenly found themselves unemployable.



That first talkie was 1927's The Jazz Singer, and it heralded the almost instantaneous death of silent movies. I think we will look back at 300 in much the same way: as the harbinger of a new era in filmmaking, one that perhaps will not be quite so profound as the end of the silent era, but one that will redefine how we look at film ... and might leave some old-school actors behind in the process.



It's like this: CGI has been a tool in the filmmaker's toolbox for more than a decade now, but it's been used, for the most part, to create spaces and elements within those spaces that are meant to be "real." No matter how fantastical the element, whether it's the liquid-metal T-1000 Terminator or the sad, twisted figure of Gollum, it is meant to be taken as it appears: as genuine, authentic, something that really is what it looks like. Even when entire worlds are invented -- as in the recent Star Wars prequel trilogy -- and exist nowhere but in the filmmaker's imagination and then in a computer, they are meant to represent real buildings, real cities, real landscapes.



But 300 uses CGI in a new way, to create a world that is figurative (even more so than Sin City a few years ago). It brings a new kind of visual metaphor to film that only CGI could achieve, to generate an environment that is felt as much as, if not more than, seen and heard. The impossibly huge moon rising behind the bluff Leonidas climbs to visit the lecherous old priests and their captive oracle early in the film, for instance, is not a "real" moon -- it's a representation of how concepts of changeability and mysterious power hovered over the ancients, especially through their mythology. It's a representation of danger, of the night, of the unknown. We're not meant to believe the moon ever actually appeared so large over Sparta -- we're meant to feel the influence of what it represents to the Spartan people.



And under this filmmaking ethos -- more impressionistic than we've ever seen in a film that is not entirely animated -- what the cast brings is as much a puzzle piece of an element as the visuals. Which doesn't mean the actors only need to look right to fit into the overall tapestry -- paradoxically, it requires a different kind of acting ... one that some film actors working today may not be able to bring. Acting in front of a green screen leaves actors with few of the visual cues that working on location or on a fully constructed set provides. (Only one shot of 300 was filmed on location, that of the horses approaching Sparta in the beginning of the film; everything else was shot on a soundstage with minimal sets and props.) All that's left are the actors one is playing against, turning this into something more like stage acting ... and yet it's still as intimate as film acting, too, with the camera right in one's face and demanding carefully modulated performances even as one knows that what will eventually appear around you on the big screen may be larger than life, or odder than life. And this new kind of acting may also demand, as 300 did of its cast, that actors mold their bodies to fit the visual aesthetic even more so than we're used to hearing about. This wasn't Renee Zellweger gaining 30 pounds to play Bridget Jones -- this was a band of actors being turned into a regiment of soldiers, sculpting their bodies into visual metaphors as well. (Oh, and the near nudity of the men? That's a metaphor, too. Of course Spartan soldiers didn't fight in leather Speedos and nothing else; what we have here are those Spartan soldiers reduced to nothing more than their fighting prowess, in a figurative way.)



We're already seeing many film critics unable to get their heads about the impressionism of 300. There will be many actors who won't be able to make that transition either. They'll be okay -- nonimpressionistic movies aren't going away, and plenty of films will continue to be shot on location and with a grounded sense of the real. But as soon as other imaginative filmmakers come to grips with the sudden widening in the range of stories that can be told as 300's is told, we're going to see a whole new kind of film being made, ones that are more painterly than we've ever seen before.

Okay ive just seen Donna Darko AGAIN. YES! Again. Ive seen it about 15 times and STILL there is stuff that i don't get. I can't get over this film. It really is my favorite movie of all times. The acting , the music , the way its shot , the story ( that i still dont get ) , the subject thats its about ( Timetravel ) ...



Anyway i would like to have youre vision on the movie. I mean as in what do u think it all means ?!



Oh and its co-produced by drew barrymore. I think thats wicked. She's a greata ctress , to bad she did charlies angels X-D

Jeanie Escribi�:

Okay ive just seen Donna Darko AGAIN. YES! Again. Ive seen it about 15 times and STILL there is stuff that i don't get. I can't get over this film. It really is my favorite movie of all times. The acting , the music , the way its shot , the story ( that i still dont get ) , the subject thats its about ( Timetravel ) ...



Anyway i would like to have youre vision on the movie. I mean as in what do u think it all means ?!



Oh and its co-produced by drew barrymore. I think thats wicked. She's a greata ctress , to bad she did charlies angels X-D

I think it was about how if you're too emo, you can go back in time.

Yeah all donnie darko needed was some pink hair and matching eyeshadow X-D



I just rented six movies that i havent seen yet!



Mean Creek

Clockwork Orange ( Yes i am excited about this one! )

Spun

Goodbye Lenin

21 Grams

Crash



I am excited! Got some nice snacks , time to do some serious movie watching!

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Jeanie Escribi�:

Okay ive just seen Donna Darko AGAIN. YES! Again. Ive seen it about 15 times and STILL there is stuff that i don't get. I can't get over this film. It really is my favorite movie of all times. The acting , the music , the way its shot , the story ( that i still dont get ) , the subject thats its about ( Timetravel ) ...



Anyway i would like to have youre vision on the movie. I mean as in what do u think it all means ?!



Oh and its co-produced by drew barrymore. I think thats wicked. She's a greata ctress , to bad she did charlies angels X-D

I think it was about how if you're too emo, you can go back in time.

I bought Donnie Darko months ago but got too high before putting it on and passed out and don't remember anything. I haven't tried to watch it since. Actually, that was almost a year ago because it was a while before I broke up with my ex.

Donnie Darko's a good flick. I'd like to see it again sometimes.



Jeanie, A Clockwork Orange is intense. It's creepy, violent and makes the viewer feel uneasy. It's a great flick. See if you can catch the subliminal messages going on.



Don't bother with Crash (in the famous words of Darkstar... "and the world collectively yawns") - take it straight back to the rental place and pick up something else, as long as it's not Babel because it's the same freakin thing as Crash only on an international level.



I didn't care for Spun, but only because I thought it tried awfully too hard. The cinematography was really good. The film looked dirty, it makes you feel like you have a thin layer of grime on your skin. Oh, and if memory serves correctly there's a snippet of a Chems song in there. Other people I know loved it, so you might too. I can be a nitpicky little bitch when it comes to film.



Haven't seen the other ones.

I liked Spun, it was a cool movie to watch, though ultimately not very fulfilling. But Jonas Akerlund is primarily a music video director and I think this is why the film is visually impressive while lacking something in the overall picture.



Also liked 21 Grams. Creepy movie kinda.



I kinda want to see Babel.



Really feeling a hankering to see Traffic or Scarface again. Or Casino Royale.

I love Donnie Darko - I remember the first time I watched it, was at my friends house and we were partying and drinking and then my friend put Donnie D on and everyone else fell asleep and I stayed up and watched it from start to end. I was so intrigued honest to god, I actually got up out of the bed i was lieing in and went over and sat on a stool right infront of it the television I was that... amazed really.

Probably isn't the best movie of all time - your right, but for me it was so - I dont know - interesting, I really liked it, it freaked me out and them kind of films [Sci Fi as such] Especially when Time Travel is involved really get me going.



Anyway rant over - I loved Donnie Darko, get the directors cut ya get to see the pages from the book he reads i.e get to know whats going on in his head. Pretty cool and I think there are some extra clips - not too sure thought didn't notice much but definitely the book was shown.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

I liked Spun, it was a cool movie to watch, though ultimately not very fulfilling. But Jonas Akerlund is primarily a music video director and I think this is why the film is visually impressive while lacking something in the overall picture.



Also liked 21 Grams. Creepy movie kinda.



I kinda want to see Babel.



Really feeling a hankering to see Traffic or Scarface again. Or Casino Royale.

Don�t.



Whats with all the steroetypes? MEXICO LOLOLOL FIESTA FIESTA BUNCH OF DIRTY IGNORANT PEOPLE AND CHILDRENS PLAYING WITH CHICKENS WTF?

mX. Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

I liked Spun, it was a cool movie to watch, though ultimately not very fulfilling. But Jonas Akerlund is primarily a music video director and I think this is why the film is visually impressive while lacking something in the overall picture.



Also liked 21 Grams. Creepy movie kinda.



I kinda want to see Babel.



Really feeling a hankering to see Traffic or Scarface again. Or Casino Royale.

Don�t.



Whats with all the steroetypes? MEXICO LOLOLOL FIESTA FIESTA BUNCH OF DIRTY IGNORANT PEOPLE AND CHILDRENS PLAYING WITH CHICKENS WTF?

Dude, you mean that wasn't a completely accurate depiction of a mexican wedding? Damn! Whirly and I were gonna renew our vows amidst a swarm of headless chickens!

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

mX. Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

I liked Spun, it was a cool movie to watch, though ultimately not very fulfilling. But Jonas Akerlund is primarily a music video director and I think this is why the film is visually impressive while lacking something in the overall picture.



Also liked 21 Grams. Creepy movie kinda.



I kinda want to see Babel.



Really feeling a hankering to see Traffic or Scarface again. Or Casino Royale.

Don�t.



Whats with all the steroetypes? MEXICO LOLOLOL FIESTA FIESTA BUNCH OF DIRTY IGNORANT PEOPLE AND CHILDRENS PLAYING WITH CHICKENS WTF?

Dude, you mean that wasn't a completely accurate depiction of a mexican wedding? Damn! Whirly and I were gonna renew our vows amidst a swarm of headless chickens!

Especially the chikens X-D

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

mX. Escribi�:

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

I liked Spun, it was a cool movie to watch, though ultimately not very fulfilling. But Jonas Akerlund is primarily a music video director and I think this is why the film is visually impressive while lacking something in the overall picture.



Also liked 21 Grams. Creepy movie kinda.



I kinda want to see Babel.



Really feeling a hankering to see Traffic or Scarface again. Or Casino Royale.

Don�t.



Whats with all the steroetypes? MEXICO LOLOLOL FIESTA FIESTA BUNCH OF DIRTY IGNORANT PEOPLE AND CHILDRENS PLAYING WITH CHICKENS WTF?

Dude, you mean that wasn't a completely accurate depiction of a mexican wedding? Damn! Whirly and I were gonna renew our vows amidst a swarm of headless chickens!

Should do that while you've got visitors in July! I can imagine our little party, battered beyond belief, celebrating wedding vows and being freaked out by chickens.

We're gonna due it one day, but we wanna do it at Circus Circus in vegas with a clown preacher!