ThePumisher, on 12 March 2011 - 2:00 AM, said:

ThePumisher, on 14 March 2011 - 1:41 AM, said:

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Probass, on 15 March 2011 - 6:41 AM, said:

Krisper, on 15 March 2011 - 7:58 AM, said:

brother_ging, on 15 March 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:

Illegal filesharing please until a cd and/or vinyl version is released.

Just buy it twice - once on iTunes and once on CD. I did it with Further, and I think it is worth it since it supports the artistic process.

Now I'm going to rant a bit about iTunes IMO (which might not be necessary):
Unless you're using Linux or have 0% free space on your HD, I don't see why using iTunes is a problem. It's the industry standard, and it is convenient for both users and publishers. There isn't strict DRM anymore either. And why is iTunes convenient? Well, you can set it up to organize all your music, so that everytime you add music to the library, those actions are reflected in the file/folder structure. It also provides strong tools for editing ID3 tags, organizing music, finding what you want to play, etc. Not that you even need to use iTunes for playing the music - you can just purchase, convert it (if you want), and then play it in some other media player.

iguanapunk, on 15 March 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

iguanapunk, on 15 March 2011 - 1:40 PM, said:

I did a lot of the Further Wallpapers, doing the FurtherRemixed art, made that seesounds poster, and also designed K+D+B Cereal.

Yes, I did use exiting material but it was appropiate for the kind of stuff I was doing. Since I'm trying to make something professional and offical-looking, I'm going to use the original artwork out there for it. It's almost mandatory really, trying to recreate those images myself would be difficult and bit stupid.

@ Goldeneyes - I'm gonna try to make one, ich habe eine Idee.
@ Pumisher - nice find!

Finally got mine:mrgreen:

Probass, on 15 March 2011 - 5:58 PM, said:

I respectfully disagree here. It's true there are a few clever features in iTunes, but most of them are for show. As a music lover, I don't need a player to compile a playlist for me as long as I tag my tunes properly and I never sort by cover art. iTunes is a large, intrusive application, it is not the best media player for editing ID3 tags, and I don't particularly care for it's limited functionality on my iPhone. As a matter of fact, as soon as my contract is up, I am trading in my iPhone for an EVO just so I never have to use iTunes again.

Why would I want to install a (large and intrusive) app just so I can just purchase (music), convert it, and then play it in some other media player? I've made my feeling known many times on the subject of mp3 only releases (hate them), and I am even more turned off by them when they are exclusive to iTunes. iTunes is great for some, but not all. It's true iTunes is the industry standard, but how often is the popular choice really the best one? Even if it was the best one, there should still be alternatives. I find purchasing music and being limited to 256kps offensive, DRM or no. Record labels (and their sales and marketing departments) still do not know how to successfully navigate the digital market after all these years. iTunes is their best compromise since the battle began with Napster, and they have decided to inundate the youth rather than compromise on a solution for those that remember browsing music on the shelves. In other words, it is never a good sign when one outlet is favored by the corporations trying to influence the youth.

Probass - This is by no means an attack on you. I just don't find solace in settling for something that appear convenient, and I am not alone.

For the record, my preferred player or choice is Media Monkey. I'm open to suggestions is someone recommends a better option. Also, no, I won't buy it twice. I'll buy just about any physical release by an artist I respect. In turn, if they don't make it available to me except in a digital format which I do not support with my dollar, than I will find another way. Someone along the line signs an agreement with iTunes to ultimately save money and increase profit margin. Fine by me. I'll save mine, too.

Probass, on 15 March 2011 - 5:58 PM, said:

Yep!

Now, in other news:
- Hanna vs. Marissa is awesome.
- It's nice seeing so many of my favorite musicians getting into film scores. Once Basement Jaxx finish their work on the music for Attack The Block my pantheon should be complete.

I have to agree Satur8. Not a big fan of iTunes, or my iPhone and the fact I can't do anything much without spending money. Good marketing on Apple's behalf but there are so many people out there willing to offer open source solutions, I hate being forced into something.

Media Monkey looks pretty good, I use Winamp, but only because it has a windows API that my own program uses. I have a database of all my music and videos and can browse, select, queue and play them using a touch screen. The touch screen is a secondary monitor, my primary is a plasma screen that plays the visualizations or videos. Perfect for a party!

Well, I'm with everyone on wanting a physical release - what would my collection be without the CD? It will likely come out when the movie is released next month.

So:

• Is anyone hearing alot of the bird from the "bird cymbals" in Hanna vs. Marissa?
  
• Anyone really loving the "escape" tracks? 700 has such a neat wobbly synth guitar approximation, and wavefold has such phat bass! I'm geeking a bit!

Krisper, on 15 March 2011 - 7:14 PM, said:

I like WinAmp as well. It has been faithful for years.

OT

Krisper, on 15 March 2011 - 5:14 PM, said:

That is pretty awesome Krisper! Creating your own program utilizing Winamp. What language did you write it in?

I currently use an iPod Touch instead of a cellphone—I wanted to go the "cheap as free" route for awhile, and there doesn't seem to be any Android PMPs on the market. I'm currently awaiting an unteathered jailbreak for 4.3, because I have yet to try it out. I'm quite jealous of android phones, because they have superior google apps and apps such as N64 emulators. In some ways Apple annoys me, but in others it doesn't. I believe this is because I'm somewhere between a "super-user" and a casual user—sometimes I like to customize and have things my way, and other times I just want something to be convenient. So, Apple really annoys my more technical side, but there are just some things that are nice, like their Mail app. I just spent a bunch of time looking up alternatives for Windows, and I eventually figured out that Thunderbird was a good option. Yet that took time, and when I finally got it set up, I probably wasted two hours. And I think Safari is shit. iTunes has not given me too many problems, but I can see how people dislike it, and how there is no supported freedoms when trying, for example, to get music off your iPod/iPhone—that is just plain annoying in the case that your HD craps-out.

WhiteNoise, on 15 March 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

Ok, that's fine, but I hope you understand that you can't take any thanks or credit for them. Why would you have to recreate the images? Artists use their imagination, and aren't detered by difficulty.

Probass, on 16 March 2011 - 9:43 AM, said:

I wrote this ages ago when I was just a self taught coder, so it is in VB6. Someone had kindly written some examples for VB6/Winamp interaction so that made it a whole lot easier too.

Krisper, on 15 March 2011 - 5:49 PM, said:

Cool, I love having sample code. It suits my learning style. I haven't used VB6, but a friend of mine has told me that VBA (he is an engineer) makes programming GUI applications really easy. Have you since had formal training/learning? What is your current preferred language?

Probass, on 16 March 2011 - 9:55 AM, said:

Yeah VB6 is quite simple to use, very good for GUI applications as it has a drag and drop editor, and has a very good debugger. But I don't think it is supported any more, MS are pushing VB.net now.

I am about 80% through an IT degree at the moment and I have now had formal training in assembly, C, C++ and Java, and for websites xml, html, php, css, javascript. Pretty soon I have to do Perl and Python. Not that you get taught anything in great detail at uni, but I do now understand most of the code I use, especially when using code samples. Before I used to borrow code, it would work but I often had no idea how or why.

My preferred language? For websites I use php to generate the latest valid xhtml using data from a mysql database. That is what I do to make most of my money. For programs for PC I want to become good at C++ as it is very powerful, but it is also very complex. I don't have much call for that these days, only on a hobby basis. Most of my current programs are still in VB6. And I've done a few phone apps, android and blackberry both have a Java IDE so they are reasonably simple. For iPhone I had to buy a Mac and learn XCode which is a derivative of C. It was tough in the beginning, but once I got the basics it is not too difficult.

I gave this a few plays this morning as I moved along through my morning duties at work. I love the atmospheres that are created here, from the swirling dreamlike twinkles to the more pulsing adrenaline charged tempests. The soundscapes provide a lot of detail for the mind's eye, so I'm really excited to hear how these amazing sounds play out in the film. I'm really digging The Sandman. Escape 700 is also a standout track that I am enjoying a lot at the moment. I'm hearing a lot of little 'chemicalisms' (such as the cymbal crash/bird ) that are distinctively Tom and Ed. The whole soundtrack is peppered with these familiarities that I know we've all heard before. for instance, there's a teeny tiny bit in Quayside Synthesis that sounds like Marvo Ging, and during another track I heard a sound that felt a bit like something I heard from Silver Drizzle.

Anyway, I need to digest this a little more. But the soundtrack is jam packed with awesome. I dig it a lot!

iguanapunk, on 15 March 2011 - 6:44 PM, said:

That's like saying that The Chemical Brothers can't take any thanks or credit for Under The Influence since they sampled the drums from Francine McGee's Delirium.



There's a ton of creativity in UTI regarding everything else, but the drums were done by someone else's existing work and thus Tom and Ed can't take any credit for the track. Well, that's obviously wrong. It's the same thing for my images, I used existing artwork but I built off of it heavily. Take this:



85% of that was done myself, but I used the Horse Power horse so I can't take credit for it? Doesn't make sense.

iguanapunk, on 15 March 2011 - 6:44 PM, said:

Original artwork would imply that everything was designed by the artist and was not taken from any outside sources. Therefore I'd have to dress a black man in a tight suit with blue lights and take pictures of him to make an 'original' Escape Velocity wall paper.

And difficulty is not a problem. My inital Dissolve wallpaper for example:



I had to silhouette the umbrella guy, invert the colors, then splice in bits and pieces of the psychedelic background of Dissolve carefully enough behind both the guy, the logo and the floor line. It sounds simple, but trying to work out how to get each piece in there to both clearly define the guy, umbrella, logo, and line and not have it look pasted together, and make it look smooth and professional too, was really painstaking. It took nearly the whole day to do.


/on topic
Hanna soundtrack is perfectly magnificent. I am working on a nice little review and I'll post it soon.

inchemwetrust, on 15 March 2011 - 8:11 PM, said:

Erm, is that right what they say in the urban dictionary or rather which one?

iguanapunk, on 15 March 2011 - 8:40 PM, said:

Glad I could help! Why did I have to kick your butt with my long dalashim-foot anyway to get you going again?

So, to make you stop whining, take the following as an appreciation of your artistic skills: Make me an all-new signature! Only requirement: include my slogan!

And btw:

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Back in the old days, you would have given a shit about that!

Been listening to this all day...it so damn good! only thing I don't like is the cover + the only digital release format...So I made this to print it on a cardboard sleeve and make my own physical copy for my collection

Nice!