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#1 Prevex   User is offline

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 12:39 AM

So.

I'm new to these boards, and I'm part of a very small mod team developing a little (absolutely free, of course) singleplayer modification for the award winning videogame Half-Life.

We're trying to get together a tiny "soundtrack" for the mod, as music really gives the feeling for certain parts of a game.

Now we thought that the Chemical Brothers' song "Rock The House" would fit the game _perfectly_, and I'm interested if there's any possibility at all of getting a permission to use an MP3 of the said song in the mod. (it would, of course, need to be distributed as a part of the mod installation then)

I'm posting this here because I have absolutely no idea who I should contact about this, if there'd be even the smallest chance.

Information/Ideas, anyone?

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 1:09 AM

'Fraid the Chemical Brothers don't have a song called "Rock The House."

However, you may be thinking of their remix of Prodigy's Voodoo People.



Also, I don't think anybody here can help you gain permission.
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Posted 01 August 2004 - 1:36 AM

prevex,



What hl mod are you working on? I'm involved in the HL community. As for clearing song writes, if you really wanted to do this legally, you need to go to a sample clearing attorney. What they basically do is talk to a record label and work out a deal. I'm pretty certain that you have no budget on this mod nor any intrest to go through an attorney. If you did include the song in your mod and the attorney of the chem's record label label found out, you'd get a cease and disist letter telling you to take it out and yada yada or else they will take legal action.

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 1:15 PM

We're not including/using anything if we don't have clear permission for it.

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 1:17 PM

As for the mod, it's called "Short Circuit".. It's going slow because of the small team developing it. We've not gone to "public" yet, because we're all too lazy to finish the mod's website with some new/current content :P

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 1:40 PM

Prevex Escribi�:

As for the mod, it's called "Short Circuit".. It's going slow because of the small team developing it. We've not gone to "public" yet, because we're all too lazy to finish the mod's website with some new/current content :P




Oh yeah, it's the website that's lagging behind. ;-)



As for the Voodoo People remix, if you are planning to include a folder of mp3s in your free mod, you are actually asking if the artist/record label would like to give their music to public for free. And I'm not seeing that happen on any commercial song. You might be allowed to use a 30-second clip of the song ... not sure about that though.



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Posted 01 August 2004 - 5:47 PM

Well, actually a clip of the song would be even better (it's too long as it is for the mod) :D

And yep, I know it'd be a small chance of getting a commercial song to free use like this.. But, umm, it'd be kind of charity wouldn't it? :)



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Posted 01 August 2004 - 5:53 PM

The song was found from a collection CD, where it was titled "chemical brothers - rock the house", dunno about it's real name then..

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Posted 01 August 2004 - 8:31 PM

Probably that CD is a bootleg. ;)



I think It's Prodigy's Voodoo People, remixed by the Chemical Brothers. It bengins with the vocal sample "Rock the house in, Rock the house in"...
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Posted 02 August 2004 - 12:03 AM

It's not just the chems you'd have to get permission from, you'd have to get it from The Prodigy. They're the original artists. I don't know where the Rock The House sample came from. At a pinch, you could get someone else to re-write the song using that sample. You couldn't just sample "Voodoo People" though, you'd have to go to the original. It's what I'd do though, if memory serves, the Voodoo People remix doesn't credit the sample, leaving me to believe that vocal is copyright-free. Therefore, if you can find the original, you can write a new song around it, with no legal ties (except to the new artist of course, but if they don't have a record label they won't complain, it's free publicity!)

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Posted 02 August 2004 - 8:36 PM

the sample isn't important, it's the whole song that would fit perfectly there.

but, what do you think, would it be legal to use a 20sec clip of the song or something?

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 2:47 AM

On to other game related news.



Tonight... Doom 3!!!



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Posted 03 August 2004 - 10:09 AM

I'm to scared to play it. I would play it if the monsters were replaced with Tulips and Roses and the plot was to water them so they didn't die, obviously you would water them with a water gun so the game retains some of its original features.
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Posted 04 August 2004 - 6:40 PM

Prevex Escribi�:

the sample isn't important, it's the whole song that would fit perfectly there.

but, what do you think, would it be legal to use a 20sec clip of the song or something?


It's still illegal, but i doubt for a 20 second sample, the record company would want any money for it. Best bet is to ring/e-mail Virgin Records, and hope you can find someone to help. Actually, the copyright will be on The Prodigy's label, XL Recordings. Just ask them!

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 7:52 PM

Ok, thanks everyone, I'll try to sort this out with them.

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 8:23 PM

I'm just telling you now, You're not going to get it approved. With out a sample clearing lawyer or something.

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 10:50 PM

It's only a Half Life mod, it's not like people actually play Half Life anymore, especially with HL2 to be released very soon.
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Posted 04 August 2004 - 11:28 PM

It's got nothing to do with lawyers really, if he asks the record company they'll tell him yes or no, and any conditions of use. It's a straight forward question.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 2:42 AM

iguanapunk Escribi�:

I'm to scared to play it. I would play it if the monsters were replaced with Tulips and Roses and the plot was to water them so they didn't die, obviously you would water them with a water gun so the game retains some of its original features.




X-D Cute, the game could be called Bloom III!



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Posted 05 August 2004 - 3:25 AM

iguanapunk Escribi�:

it's not like people actually play Half Life anymore


uhhh you're wrong?



Player statistics for half life and it's mods:



http://www.steampowe...tus/status.html





Average player minutes per month: 4.484 billion




hmmm No I think people still play half life.

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