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#41 chemdup

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Posted 04 November 2004 - 6:26 PM

jesus bush is a fucking CUNT!





thats gonna be my next t-shirt



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Posted 05 November 2004 - 3:13 AM

When I heard there was a record number of voters this time I stupidly thought they were stirred up because they were angry at Bush, but it turns out they were pro-Bush! 8O

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 9:58 AM

no offence to the yanks on here, cause you are all great, but fuck me backwards with a bucket your fellow countrymen/women are possibly....no deffinitely the most ignorant, stupid, politicaly blind, uneducated, fucking morons this planet has to offer. even the ones that claw themselves into college are fuckin retards most of the time. i mean look at your school system, the exams consist of, "shade the box, multiple choice" questions......jesus wept, i mean! :?



oh god, im sorry, im tired, and angry.........please america.....READ A BOOK, LEARN SOME WORLD HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY!!!! 90% of americans cant locate canada on a map.....I MEAN CANADA!!!! its fucking huge....AND ITS ON TOP OF YOU!!!!! 8O

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 4:13 PM

Warning: personal opinions beyond this point, don't go further if you are already disheartened about the subject.



I was pretty annoyed to find out that this many Americans chose their government not according to the issues that affect everybody but rather on moral values. Which would even be ok if the candidates would have big differences in these values. But are abortion laws or the fine-tuning of gay rights really the key issues of the country? Dominant over other civil liberties? Dominant over financial and diplomatical issues? Oh well.



I looked the results on the BBC's map and it really seems like America is increasingly divided into the two coasts and the inland. How can America survive if there are, figuratively speaking, two countries working against each other? There seems to be a grave need for more political parties to become big players in the next elections.



Let's skip the notion that the members of the bush administration have exposed themselves as hypocrite liars with no real agenda other than to control the society with company lobbyists.



And let's skip the notion that the election is considered to be fair and just as long as the amount of mishandled votes doesn't really affect the main result.



(It's a little embarrassing to take this much interest in another country's election, but I guess this was a type of a good vs. evil fight ...)

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 5:45 PM

chem'd up, as bitter as I am right now I agree with you to a point. I am glad you can see that not all Americans agree with Bush. soundertow, you should not be embarrassed to take this much interest in American politics. You don't have to show any interest at all - but you do. I commend you for that.



Increasingly divided is what the US is right now, and Bush's attitude toward just about every policy, both foreign and domestic... his "if you don't like it, tough shit" attitude and flipping off the world and 49% who didn't vote for him will do nothing more than divide and isolate the US even further - both domestically and on a global scale.



I am very upset about the turn of events leading up to the current state of Iraq, and I've been outspoken about it here and elsewhere in my life - for me Iraq was one of many issues that drove me and everyone I know to the polls. The deficit and irresponsible fiscal measures taken on by Bush and Co are more key issues, as are the eroding of our basic civil liberties due to the patriot act. I refuse to see things in black and white - the world just doesn't work that way. But America is sharply divided within its borders, we have problems at home that need to be addressed. For 51% of Americans, that obvious problem is the moral issue. These people really feel their morals are threatened, their way of life is threatened. As hard as it is to understand, they were so afraid that the wedge issues became their platform.



For 49% of the rest of us, these issues aren't as black and white - there are many facets. I still see Abortion law is a larger domestic issue, and as of now with an all conservative house, senate and presidential administration, there are valid fears that possible turn of events will be a step backward for women in America. Fine tuning of gay rights is a big issue domestically - and all you gay nay-sayers out there take the "ick" out of the equation and consider that this is, first and foremost, a civil rights issue.



Unfortunately for 49% of the population that were motivated enough to put a word in for Kerry, the Bush team strategized and used fear (of cultural, religious, and sexual diversity) at the forefront to motivate people enough to get off the couch on Novermber 2 this year. It was an evil genius plan, and it worked.



And mark my words, the Bush monarchy will live on if Jeb Bush (current governor of Florida) decides to run in 2008. God help the US, and god save the world.



I am seriously thinking of giving up on political parties altogether. I want just the issues, fuck the party. For over 12 years I've sworn allegiance to the democratic party of the US, and I don't know if that's the way to get my country back. I need look no further than George Washington's Farewell Address to see he was right about the dangers of political parties.
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Posted 05 November 2004 - 7:01 PM

Right said whirly. I was shocked to see the results 51% of the country wants Bush. How is that possible ? I was hoping Kerry to win with a landslide and there was going to be a huge gap in the numbers but it turned out that i was wrong. Not only that, everything is republican now. the house, the senate and the chief justices. It is very fucked up? How can anyone be the president of the country when half of the people don't want you in the office ? I like how the media only given attention to the 2 parties but what about Liberatarian(sp ?) party. Poor Nader, he has been fighting for over 12 years now. Even though i just can't see him as the future president but he still gave the 3d choice...and that's what we need. I also like how the media only shows Bush and kerry campagins and debates. What about my man Nader ? who wanted to legalize some mind altering chemicals ?

Oh well Hilary for '08 !!!!

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 7:22 PM

"2004 was the year that Americans were being Bushwhacked as well as Kerried-a-way."

- ???

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Posted 05 November 2004 - 9:50 PM

whirly: greatly articulated points there, proving my point that not all americans are stupid....52% are! X-D



what alternative is there for americans who dont have faith in the democrats or republicans....is there one?!

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Posted 06 November 2004 - 3:11 AM

One more response before I suffer from political burnout! ;)



Regarding Nader - I think he was a brilliant strategist in the 2000 elections. He really motivated the young vote. He is a frugal, humble man and he's very matter of fact and no frills. He had a lot of predictions regarding the domestic political climate within the US (and abroad) and was spot on. He's very, very intelligent and a brilliant politician. But like every other politician, he has an agenda. Just because he is a green does not mean he does not have an self serving agenda. In my opinion (from hearing him speak and reading what he had to say) his goal was not necessarily to be president. He knew there was no way that would happen, as to even the most politically moderate fence sitters, he was too extreme. He wanted Bush to win, and the reason why was because he thought, if Bush won he'd fuck up so royally the country would go through a massive swing to the left... in his favor so he could say "I told you so." Did not happen, his prediction did not come true. This time around, he slept with the devil and appealed to the hard line conservatives to bend the law so he could be on ballots even though by law, he shouldn't have been as the cut off time had run out. Of course the conservatives took him up on the offer, more votes in their pocket - and naturally, the The democrats were outraged (much to the conservative's amusement)



Nader did nothing this time around but get on some of the ballots ex post facto, piss off people who supported him in 2000 who wanted to be left well enough alone to boot Bush out of office, and polarize the democrats (who should in theory be his allies). All the while, still being the laughing stock of the conservative party. Amazing... genius to pull off that much animosity and fuel the divisiveness that's already rampant in this country. I do wonder if anyone will take him seriously again. Like I said, Nader is a brilliant man - I do respect his platform tremendously. But if he really wants to be president like he claims he does - if he really wants to help - then he'll ditch the party tag altogether and run as an independent so he has a wider appeal to both left and right of the spectrum. All without that nasty "liberal" tag.



Which brings up another point chem'd up brought up. As of now there is no viable, long lasting political alternative to the 2 party system. The reason why the 2 party system has worked for as long as it has is because the platforms are soft - they can bend right or left, they have wide ranging appeal on both sides of the political spectrum. Libertarians are farther right on the spectrum, greens are further left. In American, anything too far left or too far right of the spectrum is considered too extreme. It's not a smart thing for any politician to polarize one half of the population - we see that with what's happened recently.
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 3:55 AM

Saw this on another forum and thought it was quite the joke.



NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE TO CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA



In light of your failure to make the correct decision in electing your

President, thus showing you to be unfit to govern yourselves, we hereby

give you notice of the revocation of your independence effective as of

Monday 8Th November 2004.



Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties

over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which

she doesn't much fancy.



Your new Prime Minister, the Rt. Hon. Tony Blair M.P., for the 97.85% of

you unaware of the outside world, will appoint a Minister for America

without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be

disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated in twelve months time to

determine if any of you noticed.



To aid your transition into a British Crown Dependency, the following rules

are introduced with immediate effect:



1. All citizens are to look up "revocation" in the Oxford English

Dictionary. While there, check the pronunciation guide for

"aluminium" - this may be surprising for you. Generally attempt to

raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".

Using the same 27 words interspersed with "like" and "you know" is an

unacceptable form of communication. Look up "interspersed".



2. There is no such thing as "U.S. English". We will let Microsoft know

on your behalf.



3. Learn to distinguish British and Australian accents. Its not

difficult.



4. Hollywood will henceforth be required to occasionally cast Englishmen

as good guys.



5. Re-learn your original anthem, "God Save the Queen". Please ensure

that you have complied with the first law before attempting this.



6. Stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of

"football". What you refer to as "football" is not a very good game.

The 2.15% of you aware of a world outside of your borders may have

noticed that no one else plays it. Play proper football instead; to

start with get the girls to help you - it is a difficult game. Those

of you brave enough will, eventually, be allowed to play rugby, which

is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for

a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like

nancies.



7. Declare war on Quebec and France, using nukes if they give you any

merde. The 97.85% of you unaware of the outside world should count

yourselves lucky - the Russians have never really been bad guys.

"Merde" is French for "sh*t".



8. 4th July is no longer a public holiday. 2nd November will be the new

national holiday.



9. American cars are hereby banned. They are crap; its for your own

good. When we show you German cars you'll understand.



10. Please tell us who killed JFK. Its been driving us crazy.



THANK YOU FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION.


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Posted 09 November 2004 - 1:53 PM

X-D

LMAO!



That's quality Consumer, certainly brightened up my day!

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 3:38 PM

Consumer Escribi�:

Saw this on another forum and thought it was quite the joke.









6. Stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of

"football". What you refer to as "football" is not a very good game.

The 2.15% of you aware of a world outside of your borders may have

noticed that no one else plays it. Play proper football instead; to

start with get the girls to help you - it is a difficult game. Those

of you brave enough will, eventually, be allowed to play rugby, which

is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for

a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like

nancies.





THANK YOU FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION.




LOL...so true

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Posted 09 November 2004 - 3:49 PM

X-D



Now, does anyone have the front page picture of the Daily Mirror from Nov. 3?
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Posted 09 November 2004 - 4:03 PM

might be in the bin at my work check if we have it.

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 12:22 AM

A Message from the Queen to the people of America



In the light of your failure to elect a human as President of the USA and

thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:



1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then

look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at

just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be

reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter

'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn

to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your

love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the

suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the

suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to

respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct

pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable

levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words

interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an

unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up

"interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show.

If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have

chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have

to use bad language as often.



2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on

your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take

account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".



3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It

really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney,

upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to

learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as

"Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking

about

regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in

England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it

Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire,

Floridashire, Louisianashire.



4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the

good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play

English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red

Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American

audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political

incorrectness.



5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",

but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get

confused and give up half way through.



6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of

football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good

game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your

borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You

will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper

football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is

a

difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to

play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve

stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body

armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby

sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not

reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is

not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that

there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable.

Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called

"rounders" which is baseball

without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.



7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer

be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a

vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to

handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish

to carry a vegetable peeler in public.



8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new

national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".



9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your

own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start

driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go

metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables.

Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of

humour.



10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries

are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though

97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are

not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling

potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and

fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which

should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more

aggressive with customers.



11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all

tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be

doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.



12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually

beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter

will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted

provenance will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known

as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Donkey

Piss", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company

whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Donkey Piss". This

will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in

Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.



13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you

will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the

former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA

and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US

gallon - get used to it).



14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns or

lawyers. The fact that you need so many lawyers shows that you're not

adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If

you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone then

you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.



15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.



Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to

ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776). Thank you

for your co-operation.
I'm a fuckin doughnut

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