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The Divine Knob Twiddler
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#1 toomuchstash
Posted 27 March 2007 - 11:12 PM
I was reading some random articles about athiests, and read this paragraph... I nearly shot pepsi out my nose:
The anthropic principle is usually applied not to planets but to universes. Physicists have suggested that the laws and constants of physics are too good ? as if the universe were set up to favour our eventual evolution. It is as though there were, say, half a dozen dials representing the major constants of physics. Each of the dials could in principle be tuned to any of a wide range of values. Almost all of these knob-twiddlings would yield a universe in which life would be impossible. Some universes would fizzle out within the first picosecond. Others would contain no elements heavier than hydrogen and helium. In yet others, matter would never condense into stars (and you need stars in order to forge the elements of chemistry and hence life). You can estimate the very low odds against the six knobs all just happening to be correctly tuned, and conclude that a divine knob-twiddler must have been at work. But, as we have already seen, that explanation is vacuous because it begs the biggest question of all. The divine knob twiddler would himself have to have been at least as improbable as the settings of his knobs.
The anthropic principle is usually applied not to planets but to universes. Physicists have suggested that the laws and constants of physics are too good ? as if the universe were set up to favour our eventual evolution. It is as though there were, say, half a dozen dials representing the major constants of physics. Each of the dials could in principle be tuned to any of a wide range of values. Almost all of these knob-twiddlings would yield a universe in which life would be impossible. Some universes would fizzle out within the first picosecond. Others would contain no elements heavier than hydrogen and helium. In yet others, matter would never condense into stars (and you need stars in order to forge the elements of chemistry and hence life). You can estimate the very low odds against the six knobs all just happening to be correctly tuned, and conclude that a divine knob-twiddler must have been at work. But, as we have already seen, that explanation is vacuous because it begs the biggest question of all. The divine knob twiddler would himself have to have been at least as improbable as the settings of his knobs.
#6
Posted 28 March 2007 - 7:28 AM
Tyrannosaurus rex was a strict vegetarian, and lived with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Anonymous 03/26/07(Mon)14:15 No.141467 [Reply]
$27 million anti-evolution museum to open soon
http://www.kentucky....tory/26286.html
Oh my science...
$27 million anti-evolution museum to open soon
http://www.kentucky....tory/26286.html
Oh my science...
#11
Posted 28 March 2007 - 3:29 PM
mX. Escribi�:
Tyrannosaurus rex was a strict vegetarian, and lived with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Anonymous 03/26/07(Mon)14:15 No.141467 [Reply]
$27 million anti-evolution museum to open soon
http://www.kentucky....tory/26286.html
Oh my science...
Ah yes, and this is considered progress...
There's this place called the Cabazon Dinosaurs out on the way to Palm Springs. They are these giant life size dinosaur sculptures out in the middle of the desert (and forever immortalized in Pee Wee Herman's Big Adventure - "tell em large marge sent ya" and later on a Daily Show segment) Anyway, the t-rex has a shop/museum inside up in the dinosaur's belly. On a side note - when we pass through town we stop and eat at this fantastic hokey truck stop diner called the Wagon Wheel which is next to the dinosaurs, but we've always wanted to go inside the t-rex. So one day we did. It turns out that place had been transformed into an intelligent design exhibit. I was so disappointed. It could have been so cool! So here's S. California little ode to bible thumping evolution revisionists:
http://www.cabazondi...rs.com/main.htm
be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle
#12 toomuchstash
Posted 28 March 2007 - 5:17 PM
Afro88 Escribi�:
Stash have you read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? He talks about all this sort of stuff. Completely and utterly blew my mind.
That quote was actually from a Richard Dawkins book! one of his other ones...
I haven't read it yet. I'm in no rush. It's like 'An Inconvienent Truth', I don't need any persuading, ya know?
#17
Posted 29 March 2007 - 1:50 AM
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
Afro88 Escribi�:
Stash have you read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? He talks about all this sort of stuff. Completely and utterly blew my mind.
That quote was actually from a Richard Dawkins book! one of his other ones...
I haven't read it yet. I'm in no rush. It's like 'An Inconvienent Truth', I don't need any persuading, ya know?
Haha fair enough, preachin to the choir!
#19
Posted 29 March 2007 - 5:22 AM
Afro88 Escribi�:
Stash have you read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? He talks about all this sort of stuff. Completely and utterly blew my mind.
shitty book, no? his philosophy is highly weak and filled with rhetoric.
otherwise his biology is excellent, highly recommend The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker !! brilliant works about the gene as the unit of selection and evolution in general
He put on a turn-down collar, a black bow, and wore his Sunday tail-coat. As such, he looked spruce, and what his clothes would not do, his instinct for making the most of his good looks would.
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