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#1 Champiness

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 2:37 AM

I think this speaks for itself. And just so I don't take too much credit for myself, here's the post that inspired it:

View PostMaboul59, on 22 June 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

We should create a thread where everyone can express his/her disappointments about the chems. I saw threads like that in other fan forums and I can tell you it's not a bad thing at all. Everyone has a reason to complain about a band they're fan of, whether this reason is small or not. Spare the rod and spoil the child, don't forget.
I, as a fan, consider that I shouldn't be prevented from expressing my opinion just because it's negative.

So I think we should create a thread where everyone could evacuate the negative feelings in oneself.


So instead of creating a new thread every time you want to blow off steam about some really awful song the Chems made or that they didn't put your favorite track on the setlist this year or whatever, just come in here and post about it. You can talk about it with others and maybe even work out the problem. It'll help, trust me. Why don't I start things off?

Why does every Chems track featuring Beth Orton get so much better once she stops singing? For instance, The State We're In. The first four minutes of that track is folksy shoegazer nonsense. Then Beth's vocals drop out and we get a heart-rendingly beautiful coda. I don't listen to Denmark that often because by the time I get to it I'm usually too angry about it interrupting the coda. Why couldn't they have just done six minutes of that?

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 3:19 AM

Good idea for a thread. There's very little negative I have to say about the Chems, but this should be good for the little things.

My rant is, they seriously need to drop Out Of Control from their live setlist. They haven't done anything interesting with it for eleven years. That 8 bit synth added recently adds close to nothing to the track live, and Don't Fight Control just drags the whole thing out longer. It's seriously time to let that track go, it's not fresh, nor does it hit anywhere near as hard played live as do the rest of the tracks in their arsenal. Instead of ten minutes of OOC you could do ten minutes of TSU/TPPR/Star Guitar, and really fire up the crowd.

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View PostChampiness, on 22 June 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:

Why does every Chems track featuring Beth Orton get so much better once she stops singing?

Go listen to Alive Alone.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 3:51 AM

The Chems Are Too Awesome, it's so annoying!

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 4:08 AM

I actually like Beth's vocals a lot. They are a part of the build up of the song and are included in some of the most epic Chems' songs.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 7:04 AM

I like Beth on Chemical tracks, but I'm fairly disappointed with her solo albums. Hope Sandoval on the other hand—WOW! I love her tracks with the Chems, but I also love her work in Mazzy Star and with the Warm Inventions. They are so good!

Oh wait...I'm supposed to be complaining, aren't I?
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:30 PM

Gotta agree with The State We're In - one of the rare Chems tracks that I skip. The other Beth tracks are awesome though.

I don't like Dream On much, it seems like a whole load of nothing (controversial!)

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:42 PM

i pretty much love all the chems tracks - even one's im not as keen on as my favourites still piss over 95% of tracks from other artists.

the only track i actually dislike is midnight madness - i mean seriously boys, wtf happened there?!?!?!

(lots of love, i still think you're geniuses :))

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 12:44 PM

View PostWhiteNoise, on 23 June 2010 - 04:19 AM, said:

Good idea for a thread. There's very little negative I have to say about the Chems, but this should be good for the little things.

My rant is, they seriously need to drop Out Of Control from their live setlist. They haven't done anything interesting with it for eleven years. That 8 bit synth added recently adds close to nothing to the track live, and Don't Fight Control just drags the whole thing out longer. It's seriously time to let that track go, it's not fresh, nor does it hit anywhere near as hard played live as do the rest of the tracks in their arsenal. Instead of ten minutes of OOC you could do ten minutes of TSU/TPPR/Star Guitar, and really fire up the crowd.

Also,


Go listen to Alive Alone.


never has anyone been more wrong in the history of everything.....

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 1:14 PM

The Chemical Brothers are incredible performers, artists with integrity, and brilliant music makers in general. They helped innovate the big beat style of the 90's and continue to evolve with every album, offering something new to an often tired scene. They have shown on multiple occasions that they care about their fans and keep their ears to the pulse of what we want. Nope, no complaints here.

This is not a defensive fanboy post...I'm a fan BECAUSE of these things.


BTW - I love the Beth Orton collaborations.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 1:55 PM

Personally, I love all of their work. Seriously. I see here people complaining. Some people here don't like Galvanize, some don't like Left Right, today somebody wrote 'Setting Sun' being their worst one, 'Midnight Mandess' - ??? C'mon!
No. I LOVE THEM ALL. All album songs, b-sides, remixes. It's just something in their music, that keeps me going since DYOH. More than 13 years with them and no dissapointment at all. The gigs... best show anybody has ever done. Hell I even love the covers, the artwork. Not a single weak point.

Don't even try to say that 'Out of control' should be out of the setlist. It's the one I wait the most. The 'dancing with the guns guy' fits it perfectly. I liked the Don't Fight Control part very much too. 'out of control' should be forever in the setlist.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 2:07 PM

the only thing I dislike is Otter Rock.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 2:43 PM

View Postnekoland, on 23 June 2010 - 04:07 PM, said:

the only thing I dislike is Otter Rock.

Dude c'mooon.

It's a very nice chill track. Much better than some Chemical releases from PTB or WATN eras.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 6:01 PM

View Postchemicalfan, on 23 June 2010 - 01:30 PM, said:

I don't like Dream On much, it seems like a whole load of nothing (controversial!)


Get out now!

View Postmippio, on 23 June 2010 - 01:42 PM, said:

the only track i actually dislike is midnight madness - i mean seriously boys, wtf happened there?!?!?!


I love it, what don't you enjoy about it? With all the goblin pr0n you watch I would have thought it'd be your favourite.

My only gripe with the Chems is their Japanese and American releases, but that's probably not their fault. Oh and a request for them never ever ever to play guitars on stage with Wayne Coyne.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 6:35 PM

I don't like the fact we haven't news about Animal Track...

And Other Rock is superb !

Btw, I don't think Midnight Madness should be listened like an EBW, I feel it more like a fun dance track for the summer, just fun, nothing more. Summer is coming back in France, Midnight Madness fit prefectly with the sun on my head :)

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 7:32 PM

View Postkosek, on 23 June 2010 - 09:55 AM, said:

Personally, I love all of their work. Seriously. I see here people complaining. Some people here don't like Galvanize, some don't like Left Right, today somebody wrote 'Setting Sun' being their worst one, 'Midnight Mandess' - ??? C'mon!
No. I LOVE THEM ALL. All album songs, b-sides, remixes. It's just something in their music, that keeps me going since DYOH. More than 13 years with them and no dissapointment at all. The gigs... best show anybody has ever done. Hell I even love the covers, the artwork. Not a single weak point.


For me, I wouldn't say I love EVERY single piece of work they've created, nor can I say I love them all equally. I do, however, love every aspect of their presentation (songs, b-sides, remixes...artwork). Tom and Ed bring quality to everything they do....most of the dissent is based on the listeners' personal preferences, not the work itself.

I just don't think it is my place to complain about direction or set lists or decisions made by the artists. I certainly believe in giving honest opinions on the product, especially when solicited, and think it can be done without insulting the creators. I do think there has been an awful amount of criticism lately, especially from people that hadn't yet purchased the album. I know this thread is only half serious, but I don't know how productive it is.

View Postiguanapunk, on 23 June 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

My only gripe with the Chems is their Japanese and American releases, but that's probably not their fault.


I agree, this is frustrating. I'm sure The Chems feel this frustration with us to a certain degree. Who wants their art divided out based on geographical location? It only encourages piracy. The record companies just don't get it.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 7:34 PM

Out of Control is awesome live, maybe it doesn't wow people in recording but when that baseline hit, it creates this really cool effect, like you feel the bass only around you feet. Next time you see them live, heed these words.

I thought this topic was a terrible idea (even though I suggested it in a rhetorical question), but kind of fun good natured argument party

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:21 PM

OOC is a must in their setlist cause it's maybe my number one chems track. and they also did something new on the furhter tour (sonar) with it!
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:02 AM

View Postiguanapunk, on 23 June 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

My only gripe with the Chems is their Japanese and American releases, but that's probably not their fault. Oh and a request for them never ever ever to play guitars on stage with Wayne Coyne.


Hahahaha!!!!! Gotta agree there, not their finest hour!

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:54 AM

Really? I dug their performance!! Nice to see them change it up a bit.

I think it's interesting to see how everyone seems to dislike something different. For me, I'm also not a fan of Otter Rock. Left Right also didn't make the cut, but most everything else I either think is okay, like, or mostly just plain love.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 1:00 AM

Left Right instrumental wouldn't be too bad, but with the lyrics which involved unnecessary politics (including Kosovo) just ruined it.
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