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#1 Biff   User is offline

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 11:48 PM

"the music it flowers,

the light swirls faster,

the {word missing} sound just hasn't passed yet,

a surprising number of these youngsters don't even know who timothy leary is."




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 12:09 AM

Yeah... I do love that moment just before TSU comes on... :)




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 3:00 AM

nice, I was wondering how many post it would take until someone recalled.




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 4:26 AM

so what is this?




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 10:14 AM

hehe, i was just watching my Sunshine Underground video from Chicago the other night and was wondering what was being said at the beginning... now i know :)



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 2:11 PM

hmmm I heard this in an unkle set before, and I posted it somewhere here in this forum. Thanks Biff for figuring out what is said :)


edit: http://www.thechemic...=98#post-167355

I posted it in this thread somewhere. But from which song is this?



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Posted 16 March 2008 - 2:15 PM

From Wiki:


Timothy Francis Leary (October 22, 1920 – May 31, 1996) was an American writer, psychologist, modern pioneer and advocate of psychedelic drug research and use, and one of the first people whose remains have been sent into space. An icon of 1960s counterculture, Leary is most famous as a proponent of the therapeutic and spiritual benefits of LSD. He coined and popularized the catch phrase "Turn on, tune in, drop out."



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Posted 16 March 2008 - 8:25 PM

HAHA, I was watching that movie Across the Universe and Bono plays Dr. Robert in it and says "Turn on, Tune in, Drop out." I knew I had heard it earlier that day.




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 9:19 PM

another person here wo was wondering about that. I remember hearing it first at the end of Hold Tight London in te trafalger set.


As for across the universe....I think Eddie Izzards

"Just Tune in, Turn off, Drop Out, Drop in, Switch off, Switch on, and EXPLODE!"

is way better. I start singing his versio of benefit of Mr. kite around my friends. It amuses them.




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Posted 16 March 2008 - 9:25 PM

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 9:51 PM

I could listen to the Trafalgar Hold Tight London all day long...




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Posted 17 March 2008 - 2:53 AM

agreed. I think I accidentally sold my soul to get a live version of HTL of that quality.




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Posted 17 March 2008 - 7:53 AM

So... the best version of The Sunshine Underground I've heard so far has been from Fuji Rocks 2002.


The build is... absolutely... incredible. I couldn't believe how spectacular it was when I got a hold of it this past weekend and gave it a listen. Anyone else know of a better set with this in it?




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 3:01 AM

It saddens me too that the chemical brother's target audience seems to make absolutely nothing of their blatant psychedelic advocations. But I guess a while ago I was guilty of it too. It's really funny going back through the chem's discography after having turned on and realizing that far too often they're blatantly talking about lsd or chemicals in general. It's overpoweringly beautiful when you're on the same page as they are, but it's just going over a lot of people's heads. I guess they're definitely doing their part trying to get the message out though.




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 3:12 AM

Drugs aren't necessary to have a psychedelic experience with their music. In fact, I don't think they advocate it, as past interviews have suggested. The winding arpeggios that follow the end of Das Speigel/AMMC are enough of an experience with the poem. Plus, LSD has some pretty negative long term effects, whereas Das Spiegel/AMMC have yet to be proven.




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 3:23 AM

Biff, you sound like someone who hasn't passed the acid test. And doesn't know who timothy leary is. I probably won't ever stop stressing that the theme of hallucinogen advocacy is completely central to everything the chemical brothers are and have been, and this is exceptionally clear through their lyrics regardless of whether or not they make risky image-damaging public statements to this effect. Yes, I'll admit that they use some ambiguity to keep themselves on the radio, but if you just look plainly, it's all there. The acid runs deep in their music, but none of their fans are realizing it, which is exactly what it is they're expressing frustration about in this quote. People use the idea of personal interpretation of music to completely expurgate what they're trying to communicate through it in the first place. Hence, a surprising number of these kids don't even know who timothy leary is.




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 4:09 AM

The beauty - and the tragedy - of acid is that your mind sees what it wants to see. And as such, you take from the experience what you can. Some trip just fine and others trip too far.


If you're tripping with other people, and someone points something out, you will see it and experience what they are seeing too. That's the acid test. If you're alone, your brain wanders and sees what it wants to see - good or bad.


A trip in itself can be a communal experience (Coachella, the Chems 2002 comes to mind, hahaha) if shared with others, but at the end of the day it's purely subjective, unique to the individual's experience - and the trip also depends on the state you're in when going into it. Like music is subjective - if we like something, or not - we hear what we want to hear. Some of us take from that and others don't. And a concert is very much a communal experience with or without drugs IMO. It can be an enlightening, beautiful and even spiritual experience if you let it. That said, I can't deny what I've gotten from the music in various altered states both sober and... not so sober. And I have a hard time expressing this because it's so subjective.


If you like the music and are getting something from it (even if other people don't think you "get it") does it really matter either way? Because it shouldn't.




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 4:35 AM

Yeah, this could be debated forever.


But unless you're Tom or Ed, you'll never know.


For the record, I agree with Biff. I dont think their music is heavily soaked in drug usage. I think the drug/psychedelic references are just a metaphor for how the music should make you feel as if you were in a drugged up euphoric state.



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 4:48 AM

lol yeah, I haven't passed the acid test, guess in that subject I have only made it to community college- only then to find I'm a bit of a wino by genetics (which is equally expensive).


My educated guess would be the reason there are many psychedelic tones to the chemical brothers is that their music is largely based around that sense of creativity that can seen as similar to hallucinogenics. That's definitely why I love them after all these years and find that I can go months on listening to only them, because they have no limitations like other groups and genres of adhering to a particular style and are never the same from one song to the next. So in short chemical brothers and lsd do the same.




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Posted 18 March 2008 - 4:54 AM

Hm...could have fooled me. I'm pretty sure Biff passed the acid test back in LA during the shrieking beats of 'Believe'



View Posttom_rowlands_chemical_chi, on 08 January 2003 - 8:53 PM, said:

This old man,
he play beats,
He don't need no music sheets,
but with a snip-snip-snippy-snip
gave his mop a chop,
Old man hairstyles are a flop.

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