THE FUCKIN' REPUBLICANS ARE ON THEIR WAY OUT!!



Bush just fired Donal Rumsfeld, we've taken the House of Representatives, with the first female Speaker of the House in American History, and it's almost certain that we're gonna take the Senate...



For all you non-americans out there, basicly, Bush can no longer do ANYTHING, and the investigations and prosecutions are about to start.



I haven't felt this good about my country in like 10 years.

HOLY SHIT!



HE fired rumsfeld!!!! hahahahaha roll on civil anarchy in iraq, a month of that and america will be deep in the shits over there....more deep than now...and thats pretty damn deep!

Shit! U.S should atleast finish the job they started in Iraq, or else it would look so bad on the world stage.

no man, I cannot agree. The only reason there's unrest in Iraq right now is that we're there, holding a puppet government that doesn't represent the people in place. How can there be peace there when the U.S. has squads of secret police putting entire families in prison and U.S. backed death squads are massacring people at soccer games?



The only way it's ever going to be stable is if they install the same kind of government as Iran. If there were real elections in Iraq, the people would vote to install a theocracy. Let 'em.



We need to get the fuck out and let Iran deal with it.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

no man, I cannot agree. The only reason there's unrest in Iraq right now is that we're there, holding a puppet government that doesn't represent the people in place. How can there be peace there when the U.S. has squads of secret police putting entire families in prison and U.S. backed death squads are massacring people at soccer games?



The only way it's ever going to be stable is if they install the same kind of government as Iran. If there were real elections in Iraq, the people would vote to install a theocracy. Let 'em.



We need to get the fuck out and let Iran deal with it.

agreeed. US has done enough damage already and enough lives lost on the both sides...but i m saying that bush should atleast finish the job he started that he told the american people that he is going to do. to still this day no weapons of mass distortion ? it was balatantly obvious before we went in iraq that oil is all bush wants...but to save his ass now just put a bilateral government in iraq and leave the civil unrest to them which is inevitable.

yeah, things there aren't gonna calm down any time soon enough for us to make back our investment.



Personally, I'd love to see a pan-arab islamic superpower. Cut off all oil to the West. Then we'd see all the non-oil engine designs that they've kept buried at all the car companies. I mean, for a while, yeah, life would absolutely suck, but people have lived through worse before, and at the end of it the middle east would be exactly as unimportant as it should be, and the enviroment might get a chance to recover.

Being selfish, I can't afford gas prices here as it is. Grrr.



But it's hard to argue with the rest of what you say, 'stash.



Although I consider oil to be an important motivation behind the Bush Administration, I do genuinely think they are also acting on the principles they say they are. I don't think Bush is an evil, devious man. I do think he genuinely fights for what he believes in, but is the product of a skewed and myopic worldview.

oh dude, dude, dude, he's such an evil hypocritical liar. From south of the border, it's completely feasible to believe that he's planned and orchestrated 9-11. He had plans for the invasion of Iraq drawn up and ready to go before he was even elected. It's not even that much of a secret, there's a group called Project of a New American Century, and they're so filled with hubris and contempt for the people that they even publish their plans online.



He pretends to be a christian, but people who've left his admnistration have said that it's all an act, to get christian voters. Some guy just wrote a book about it, can't remember his name...



and the thing about oil and the war, he doesn't have to get the oil to make the money. Halliburton has made tens of billions of dollars in Iraq. Cheney and his friends don't need to win, they just need to keep spending money. It's a carbon copy of vietnam. As long as the bombs keep falling, someone get's paid to make 'em. Peace breaking out is the worst thing that can happen to the military industrial complex. They have to have an enemy in order to justify the defense budget.



When clinton was president, yeah, he had a little war over in bosnia, but he managed to oust Slobodan Milosovic without losing a single american troop. Not one. And there were no big enemies in that time, because Clinton, for all his faults, didn't have a defense contracter for a vice president.

Darkstarexodus Escribi�:

Being selfish, I can't afford gas prices here as it is. Grrr.



But it's hard to argue with the rest of what you say, 'stash.



Although I consider oil to be an important motivation behind the Bush Administration, I do genuinely think they are also acting on the principles they say they are. I don't think Bush is an evil, devious man. I do think he genuinely fights for what he believes in, but is the product of a skewed and myopic worldview.

funniest post of the day...

I agree that he's a hypocrite and a liar, I just don't think he's evil. I don't think he or anyone in his administration orchestrated 9-11, but I am reasonably familiar with PNAC and the reason they publish their plans is that at least 40% of your country agrees. Iraq would have been invaded with or without 9-11, I definetly agree.



Won't argue the rest.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Personally, I'd love to see a pan-arab islamic superpower. Cut off all oil to the West. Then we'd see all the non-oil engine designs that they've kept buried at all the car companies. I mean, for a while, yeah, life would absolutely suck, but people have lived through worse before, and at the end of it the middle east would be exactly as unimportant as it should be, and the enviroment might get a chance to recover.

your my hero!



They should do it right now so that holiday season gets all fucked up. Thus, thousands of major corporations to go bankrupt, because nobody can travel to the store to buy shit, or dine out, and so forth.

as much as I'd love that, when I think about it, it wouldn't really make life better for the bottom rung of american society... the national guard would just be out in the street, and the rich would still be rich... actually, richer by comparison.



It's a sad fact that the machine gun made popular revolution obsolete.

Rummy's gone and there's now we can look forward to badly needed checks and balances within the US government. It's been a long time coming, and it felt good to be a part of American history last night. Yes! The people have spoken!! This is a victory for all on both sides of the political spectrum who are sick of "staying the course". America is fed up and it showed at the polls last night, as close as some of the races were and still are. Pulling out of Iraq will not happen tomorrow and it would be disastrous for all involved if it were to happen without a real strategy, a real solid plan which will serve our interests as well as the Iraqi people.



I think Bush asking Rumsfeld to step down is one way he is trying to cover his ass. It is only a matter of time before the truth(s) come out. All ugly things rear their heads if given enough time. The months ahead will be interesting indeed.

Bush will use the patriot act to declare all who vote democrat enemy combabtants...

Ah-ha-ha-ha Bush called his 1% victory over Kerry a mandate.... Then what would you call winning like 40 seats more than the 'pub-lickens in the house?

Times like these Im just glad Im in Ireland.. Ya know

Foxboy Escribi�:

Times like these Im just glad Im in Ireland.. Ya know

I'd prefer that too! Over there, you get to shoot your political opponents in the kneecaps!

I hear ya, Foxy, but I am proud right now and even a bit giddy, haha. Young voter turn out was very high this time around and that to me is important - I feel it's important that they and all who got off their duffs to vote last night could stand up and be counted. The House and Senate are free from GOP reign. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and the last few years have proven that. Bringing balance to the table will hopefully result in a less divided nation. It's been ugly here and everything has been so polarized... The democrats are not above reproach, and now's the time for them to prove themselves and get right to it, put their money where their mouths are and work to start making some real change.

I dare to question whether you guys even have an intact country down there. I mean no disrespect, but seriously, I think the American political spectrum is so polarized, with very little in the way of a credible middleground. I'd rather see the lunatic left in charge than the religious right, but my, if only there were better options! (We are also bereft of options here in Canada and face the same issues albeit perhaps to a lesser extent, but the parties are not quite so ideologically far apart.)



Should really just let the Confederates secede now. Move the blacks, gays, and other minorities out of the South for their own sake and just let the loonies have it.



The fact remains that a significant portion of the country still supports Bush blindly, thumps their Bible far too hard (against the skulls of fallen Iraqis), and are just straight dumb fucks beyond repair.

toomuch'stash Escribi�:

Foxboy Escribi�:

Times like these Im just glad Im in Ireland.. Ya know

I'd prefer that too! Over there, you get to shoot your political opponents in the kneecaps!

Its amazin' 8) - Kinda scary too though :'(