Bosco Escribi�:

The thing is, if "human after all" was created by some indie dance group, it would probably get a pretty warm welcome. But, since it was made by Daft Punk, many are dissapointed with them and the ablum. Which is only fair, cause they're capable of sooooo much more.



And then, how they flaunted the fact that they completed the album in 6 months, was a really bad idea.

You mean 6 weeks. If it was completed in 6 months it might've been good.

mX. Escribi�:

Daft Punk's Electroma



Announced last week, but with more information filtering through each day is news is new of Daft Punk's first full length feature film entitled ?Electroma?, which will debut at the Cannes Film Festival sidebar.



Directed by Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo and Thomas Bangalter the film is a psychedelic musical and visual odyssey based around the premise of two robots and their quest to become human. It is the reclusive duo?s directorial debut, but not their first appearance at the prestigious film festival after the pair collaborated in 2003 with Japanese director Leiji Matsumoto on the animated film ?Interstella 5555?.



For what 'Electroma' lacks in dialogue it is expected to make up for in an engrossing Soundtrack and impressive visuals. It will makes it debut in the Sidebar at The Cannes Film Festival sidebar Directors? Fortnight, which kicks off on May 18.

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Sounds good 8)

so i dont get it.......is it suppost to show up in theatres? or is going to be only on DVD? :?



"engrossing soundtrack"........does that mean new Daft tracks?????? 8O

Slipvin Escribi�:

Bosco Escribi�:

The thing is, if "human after all" was created by some indie dance group, it would probably get a pretty warm welcome. But, since it was made by Daft Punk, many are dissapointed with them and the ablum. Which is only fair, cause they're capable of sooooo much more.



And then, how they flaunted the fact that they completed the album in 6 months, was a really bad idea.

You mean 6 weeks. If it was completed in 6 months it might've been good.

:-// my bad

Electroma is a mute movie, I think it will be out in France on the 4th of july. The soundtrack is composed of slow tracks from the 70's. It has been presented in Cannes last week, and from what I've heard, it's strange, interesting, and not so bad, but many people dislike.



The story : two robots want to become human. They live in a town with only robots (they all have the same "faces" : either Thomas' helmet or Guyman's).

re: not liking albums the first time u hear them.



what i find with albums (and i think i had this discussin with whirly at some ridiculous hour in cali :P) is that albums tend to becoem classics (for me) if im not sure about them at first - if i really like them straight away sometimes they dont have much legs.



for example i really liked mylo destroy rock n roll at first, thought it was wicked, but no a few years on it all sounds a bit plastic and poo. wheeras for example dust, by screaming trees - i wasnt sure at first at all, thought it was a bit strange, but now i can never get bored of it, its a classic. same with ptb.

That's the whole thing about finding new music , innit

u been spending too much time with english lads ;) :P

and as for daft punk, i cant be bothered to start dissing again, so ill keep my trap shut X-D

I was kinda drunk last night and couldn't get my pt across properly.

Jeanie, u heard Surrender, or Dig Your Own Hole without much expectations way back, as you didn't know these two geniuses, and hence it blew u right away. With Come With Us and PTB, a lot of us had already put them on a pedestal way too high in our lives and expected nothing less than Godly work. Hence, even if IS Godly work, it doesn't sound THAT amazing, what we've been expecting because of all our anticipation. We want it to have the SAME or in most cases with a new album, even better effect than Surrender, DYOH whatever may be the case.

Hence the first few listens, the album doesnt connect so deep into your soul, but u know it's something good and u don't give up.

And with time u understand it's at the same level as any of those kult albums, just a different album, a different experience, two people who've grown into something else, or more.



I'll rest my case, as I don't think I'm being able to make a pt, since the pt in case here is Daft Punk, and as I see Human After All is pretty hated, so the prejudices won't let my pt live.

Slipvin Escribi�:

JacksRevenge Escribi�:

i totally agree.

but that's how i treat all my fav bands, it's tough but it's possible. not the first listen definitely, but after a while, if it fails, i try and simmer down my expectations and listen to it as a new piece of music, if it's really good, it fuckin works!

even with the chems, it's SO hard to like a new album the first listen everytime they release one, but then after one listen i gotta tell myself, hang on, hear it as a new experience, forget who they are, what they've done for me in the past, and fuck, they always hit the fuckin spot right at the pt i try that, sincerely enough.

we are, we are, we are, we are, we are,

H U M A N

A F T E R A L L.

No, it's called lying to yourself. You so desperately want it to be good, you repeat to yourself over and over that it's good, and after a while, you don't know any better. You're indoctrinating yourself.



When you've grown up there will be a day when you think: damn, what was I thinking! This fucking sucks!

I keep growing all the time mate. Agewise i'm ancient already.

I NEVER desperately want anything to be good. I'm quite the opposite actually. Like with Human After All, I heard it, threw it away, till one day I was stuck with just that in my car, and then I realised it wasn't as bad as I had thot it is the first time. I'm still not saying it's anything like HW or Discovery, but i still say it's a pretty good album. Like someone said had it been a new release by some indie dance act, it would got rave reviews, it's daft punk, so expect them not to start afresh in a different direction, we want them to keep doin the same stuff what we liked them for at one pt in our time and just "grow" in that same dimension. Whatever.

JacksRevenge Escribi�:

Slipvin Escribi�:

JacksRevenge Escribi�:

i totally agree.

but that's how i treat all my fav bands, it's tough but it's possible. not the first listen definitely, but after a while, if it fails, i try and simmer down my expectations and listen to it as a new piece of music, if it's really good, it fuckin works!

even with the chems, it's SO hard to like a new album the first listen everytime they release one, but then after one listen i gotta tell myself, hang on, hear it as a new experience, forget who they are, what they've done for me in the past, and fuck, they always hit the fuckin spot right at the pt i try that, sincerely enough.

we are, we are, we are, we are, we are,

H U M A N

A F T E R A L L.

No, it's called lying to yourself. You so desperately want it to be good, you repeat to yourself over and over that it's good, and after a while, you don't know any better. You're indoctrinating yourself.



When you've grown up there will be a day when you think: damn, what was I thinking! This fucking sucks!

I keep growing all the time mate. Agewise i'm ancient already.

I NEVER desperately want anything to be good. I'm quite the opposite actually. Like with Human After All, I heard it, threw it away, till one day I was stuck with just that in my car, and then I realised it wasn't as bad as I had thot it is the first time. I'm still not saying it's anything like HW or Discovery, but i still say it's a pretty good album. Like someone said had it been a new release by some indie dance act, it would got rave reviews, it's daft punk, so expect them not to start afresh in a different direction, we want them to keep doin the same stuff what we liked them for at one pt in our time and just "grow" in that same dimension. Whatever.

Are you intoxicated? Seriously man, what a load of BS. You aren't talking about some indie dance act, but about guys who put French House on the world map. Of course people have expectations! But no matter how many times I listen to HAA, It's still a repetitive, boring and uninspired album. Wow, it was completed in 6 weeks! Woopy-fucking-doo, it's still shit. I mean, Superdiscount 2 was also completed in 6 weeks, and written using the same methods as HAA, and that album rocks. Come on, be realistic, they had 4 years to come up with someting proper, and all they could come up with was this??? Imho, they deserved it to get slaughtered by the press.

Of course people have expectations! But no matter how many times I listen to HAA, It's still a repetitive, boring and uninspired album

I agree Slipvin.



Re the chems - All the albums took time to grow on me except Come with us. I remember loving it at first but its only after PTB came out I realized the flaws of CWU. As has been said before whilst the tracks are great on their own (imo), the album just doesn't flow like the others.



In the last month I've being trying to get my head round the album Polydistortion by Gus Gus, was hoping someone else here had heard it. I love the album but trying to work what it is that appeals so much! I think ethereal, haunting, chilly, maybe even sinister fit the album best. And now Takk by Sigur Ros has come along and fucked with my mind once again, fucking Icelanders X-D!! I think I'll still be listening to these albums in a few years time.



Anyways I'm rambling now but I think thats a really good point about albums that take time to grow are often the best.

I think that an ablum can grow on you even if you dont like it first time. For example 2 years ago If I had of herd 20 to 20 I wouldnt of been that impressed, but now I love it due to changes in my musical taste.

Slipvin Escribi�:

JacksRevenge Escribi�:

Slipvin Escribi�:

JacksRevenge Escribi�:

i totally agree.

but that's how i treat all my fav bands, it's tough but it's possible. not the first listen definitely, but after a while, if it fails, i try and simmer down my expectations and listen to it as a new piece of music, if it's really good, it fuckin works!

even with the chems, it's SO hard to like a new album the first listen everytime they release one, but then after one listen i gotta tell myself, hang on, hear it as a new experience, forget who they are, what they've done for me in the past, and fuck, they always hit the fuckin spot right at the pt i try that, sincerely enough.

we are, we are, we are, we are, we are,

H U M A N

A F T E R A L L.

No, it's called lying to yourself. You so desperately want it to be good, you repeat to yourself over and over that it's good, and after a while, you don't know any better. You're indoctrinating yourself.



When you've grown up there will be a day when you think: damn, what was I thinking! This fucking sucks!

I keep growing all the time mate. Agewise i'm ancient already.

I NEVER desperately want anything to be good. I'm quite the opposite actually. Like with Human After All, I heard it, threw it away, till one day I was stuck with just that in my car, and then I realised it wasn't as bad as I had thot it is the first time. I'm still not saying it's anything like HW or Discovery, but i still say it's a pretty good album. Like someone said had it been a new release by some indie dance act, it would got rave reviews, it's daft punk, so expect them not to start afresh in a different direction, we want them to keep doin the same stuff what we liked them for at one pt in our time and just "grow" in that same dimension. Whatever.

Are you intoxicated? Seriously man, what a load of BS. You aren't talking about some indie dance act, but about guys who put French House on the world map. Of course people have expectations! But no matter how many times I listen to HAA, It's still a repetitive, boring and uninspired album. Wow, it was completed in 6 weeks! Woopy-fucking-doo, it's still shit. I mean, Superdiscount 2 was also completed in 6 weeks, and written using the same methods as HAA, and that album rocks. Come on, be realistic, they had 4 years to come up with someting proper, and all they could come up with was this??? Imho, they deserved it to get slaughtered by the press.

Rock star, u got some attitude. How old are u?

Does it look like I give two fucks bout the press or u'r attitude?

I like the album, I don't care if they were supposed to live up to "your" expectations of being the bastions of french house, or did it in 6 weeks, 6 hrs, or 6 eons. It doesn't matter.

Chill man, music's all bout personal, very personal perceptions and connections they have for you.

Peace out, whatever.

looks interesting.

Dig it. Dig it a lot.

I agree with what JacksRevenge, you go mang.

mippio Escribi�:

re: not liking albums the first time u hear them.



what i find with albums (and i think i had this discussin with whirly at some ridiculous hour in cali :P) is that albums tend to becoem classics (for me) if im not sure about them at first - if i really like them straight away sometimes they dont have much legs.

I was in on this conversation too, and I totally agree. Most of my favourite albums took a long time to gel for me. Dig Your Own Hole being a perfect example.





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After a little more listening, I don't actually mind HAA that much. It's got a few tracks I like, but it doesn't live up to the expectations and after two of the best albums of the previous ten years (yes, I like Discovery a lot) it's far too underwhelming.



I get the feeling that Daft Punk don't really care about expectations and will continue to do whatever gets them off and props to them for that. Still, it's a weak album with a couple cool tracks. Hope they bounce back.

You know what's funny.



This whole discussion comes from one thing.

One half likes HAA. Other half doesn't. Discussions are good and this became a very intresting one, but ffs , if people like that cd , they like it. What's the fucking problem.



Here's a confession that u can discuss about ; i've got britney spears on my iPod !!

Jeanie Escribi�:

You know what's funny.



This whole discussion comes from one thing.

One half likes HAA. Other half doesn't. Discussions are good and this became a very intresting one, but ffs , if people like that cd , they like it. What's the fucking problem.



Here's a confession that u can discuss about ; i've got britney spears on my iPod !!

EXACTLY!!!

I can see where Slipvin and Jack's Revenge are coming from... maybe not on all accounts but a fair amount. I'll counter by saying I don't think growing to love something is a sign of being indoctrinated, or listening to something repeatedly and giving a record or an album a few more spins is "giving in". But on the other hand I agree with what's been said about having high expectations - I've seen that and experienced that with bands over the years, when something comes along that knocks them off the pedestal you once put the band on... It's hard to get around not having expectations. It isn't necessarily a bad thing really, you have the music that put the band on the pedestal in the first place, the music can be a timeless, classic thing. It's just a matter of opinion on what you want to hear in the end - but maybe that's me and my little world view being jaded.



I wish I had the energy to partake in the discussion, but alas, I'm pooped out and probably not making much sense anyway. :P