This week marks the 2 year anniversary of an event that moved us all. I'm talking about the release of It Began in Afrika. It's pretty crazy to think that that was 2 years ago from wednesday (I think thurs for 'merica). I can still remember going to pick it up and just looking at the cover in awe due to my excitement and the fact that the cover was pretty trippy. It seems like yesterday Surrender was the last album released, now it's oooold! Not only that but for those of you that consider the Singles an official chems album, Surrender is now 3 albums ago! Ehm, sorry Surrender.



So since this marks that big event I think it'd be nice to remember where it all began on that day:



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I still have Surrender ready for any occasion :D

Surrender may have started the chem revolution for you, but it was Dig Your Own Hole which took me for a ride :D

When I saw this topic, I thought it was about 9/11. I remember when I first heard that they were coming out with a new single. I was reading it on theraft and I told one of my friends who is interested in the Chem's. I also remember driving around trying to find a place that had it.

Thor_Saytyr Escribi�:

I still have Surrender ready for any occasion :D

Same here, I sleep with it under my pillow at night, plus duct-taped another copy under a droor in my kitchen, and let's not forget a copy is in my glove box of my car... They're all next to my hand gun (that's a little nra joke, which I am not a member of)

ElectronicBattleWarrior Escribi�:

When I saw this topic, I thought it was about 9/11.

That's what I was hoping for. Stupid joke, but I couldn't think of any other way to title the topic

I think the events surrounding the release of It Began In Afrika definitely have a place in my memory, more because the events that surrounded it were so mind numbing and catastrophic. On the morning of Sept 11 my mom called just as I was waking up, near hysterical. I turned on the news as the tower was crumbling and everything else that had been on my mind melted away. I headed out anyway not really knowing if it would be worth going to work (corporate made us close up shop at noon) The night before I was really anticipating using my lunch hour to buy that single and sit in my car for the remainder and listen at high decibles. Needless to say, there were other pressing things on my mind that morning - or next two weeks was more like it - and Afrika was the farthest thing from it. If there was one thing to sway my mind from anything, those towers crumbling was it. I actually think I didn't get the single til almost 2 weeks afterward. Hmm. Hard to believe it's been 2 years already.



My admiration of the Chems was more a gradual thing. Pretty much full blown right before the Surrender came out.



Time flies.

9/11 was the most crazy thing I've ever seen happen to this society (in the US). It was such a disturbing think and just hideous to see. I remember waking up (being in california) and getting a note to turn on the tv and seconds later the second plane hit. It shows how the media can deliver an overwhelming influence on us (especially something that spontaneous and dramatic). I was glued to the TV just wondering how many more times this was going to happen while trying to get to everyone I knew in NY. Definitely the start new chapter in US history. Especially when you look at the news today it's all about terror alerts and war after war in the middle east. I won't go into that (suddenly the vein in my head starts to pulsate). In case anyone reads the title and thinks I am making fun of 9/11 I just want to add that it was not disregarding the even as something secondary to a chems release... Just a little playing with deception in title.

After 9/11 70% of news now is about terrorism. Kinda pisses me off. The News acts like the word Terrorism and The Threats they present were invented on that day. I remeber one of my friends telling me that the Edge (a local radio station) said that some kind of plane hit one of the world trade towers. I then remembering about 35 minutes later he told me a second hit, and I rememeber my exact words, "Dude, John, If another plane hit, That shit was orcestrated." Some else I remember is all the crazy rumors flying around and uncomfirmed reports. Car bombs in washington and such, It was like someone launched a war against america. I remember another chick in my class also talking about what it must have been like to be there, and what you would do if you died. I just remmber first perdio class and our teacher ghetto rigging the TV so we could watch the news. What I also really remember is all the news Channels broadcasting for like 5 days without any commercials. It was really weird. I used to chat on IRC on gamesnet and the night of 9/11 everyone put on tags on their names of where they were from and joined a #usa channel. I took a screenshot of it. I also remmeber seeing like all the notradomus prophecies and This onething stuck out really sharply. People were posting links to a google message board, and there was this guy that everyone flamed and stuff and he said that they should all just wait and that in a couple of days they would pay and that a massive attack was coming. It was really eerie to read, and I don't know if it was ever looked into. Another Thing I really remember Something else I remember is Our principle coming into the class room (he does every morning) and telling us that a plane crashed into queens, a little while after 9/11, and thinking here we go again, that another plane had been kamikazied

i think its a pity for you guys(americans) that you are gonna have to fork out an extra $38 BILLION for this non-existant "war on terror"



Fuck george bush, he better loose this election

I think it's 87 billion with all the wars and crap.



Well if it's anything like last election he won't win

I didn't know there still was a "War on Terror". George Bush seems to have forgotten that Al-Qeada are the biggest threat to World Security at the moment. 'Getting rid' of Saddam has not improved World Security at all. Iraq is a complete mess, army people are being killed every day. And guess where the oil money is going to (not the Iraqi people)? But as long as the American government can steal enough oil so their country can carry on using more fuel than the UK, France and Germany put together, then thats ok isn't it?}:-@





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well they're calling it the oil for food program, so they're getting something in return... even though it's probably a huge-ass rip (top raman for a few barrels of oil). I think we should take care of n.korea... Perhaps a top ramen for plutonium program

yes indeed you are right it is 87 Billion. i just think its great that the ?uro is so strong against the dollar because as soon as america invaded iraq all the gulf states started trading oil in ?uro rather than dollar HA that really back fired didn't it G.W????



i would have said that if this ellecton is anything like the last one the loser will actually win.



for the 2004 my advice to people in the us is a u-turn on my life long moto......dont vote make trouble! i think you need to all vote....for whoever is not G.W!!!! did arnie win the gov. of cali???? how cool would that be!

Yep $87b to the tune of indefinite occupation of Iraq. I feel very sorry for those soldiers over there, who don't know when they're coming home and who are meeting such hostile conditions. What amazes me about this whole mess is seeing all those oil wells burning out of control, costing at least 7 million dollars per day to maintain. When I see those burning wells, I think that's what American bankruptcy looks like.



My son is in public school, private school is financially out of the question, we already pay enough to live where we do so we can put our kid in a decent public school. It's amazing how little money the government puts into the public educational system, I never really thought about it until my son was ready for school. I am fortunate enough to live in an area with decent public schools, but for lower income areas, those schools are shit out of luck as far as funding goes. You'd be amazed, some schools can't even afford toilet paper for the year, or janitors, or chalk, or up-to-date texts... I think it would be a great thing if a few billion of that money going into Iraq were going to American schools instead, because that's where the future of the country is. But it will never happen, to bank on such notions is silly of me as long as Bush and his cronies are in charge. It really angers me. We've still got a high unemployment rate due to lack of jobs, a high rate of inflation, cost of living has skyrocketed and is on the rise, and more and more people as a result do not have health benefits. In times of need, people feel deseration and fear and the media plays up to it, like what EBW said.



chem'd up, good advice about voting. Vote, and make noise and get involved and try to get the neocons out of office. If the last presidential election proved anything, it was that every vote counts (as long as they have a chance to all be tallied ;) ) In many cases it's the only chance regular joes like ourselves have a voice to say something politically.



And no, Arnie is not the the governor... yet. I think he's got a good chance of getting it though. He's a very moderate republican and has come under more scrutiny of the far right than he has from the political left. So we shall see.



OK I'm done.

Who are you going to vote for in this recall, whirly?



I think I am going to vote against it simply because of the way this came about. If they were recalling the president it would be much different since he didn't win. But Davis won easily over that tool Simon and it pisses me off (no matter how you voted) that some guy can come it and get a small sample of crazy republicans who are foaming at the mouth at the thought of Davis and take away what your vote. Funny joke on late night I heard was the guy who funded this recall earned a living selling car alarms, so this isn't the first time he's annoyed millions.

I don't think I'll vote for Arnold simply because he hasn't really done well on letting us know what he's all about (or maybe I missed it but issues like medical marijuana, gay marriages, abortions, etc). He really hasn't established a good, stable political ground. I think Bush supports him so he can tweak of the electoral districts so that they are majority republicans, which scares me. Anyways, for me I'm thinking Cruz might be the way to go if a new governor is put... Even though Arnold would be interesting.

yeah go arnie!!!! 8)





think about this..............87 Billion dollars could cure world hunger, stop the spread of A.I.D.S in africa and around the world,nearly cancel world debt,and bassically cure any problem you can think of...................but oh now...........good old G.W has to go and get "that guy who tried to kill my daddy" YOU FUCKING LUNATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am soooooooo glad he aint my president. i would actually try my very very very hardest to kill him if i lived there! SERIOUSLY! i get so so angry when i even see his little piggy eyes and his complete lack of grammer skills. the alcoholic pot head....whos married to a murderer..........any ways we've gone down this political root before and it aint nothing to do with the chems......but so what, at least we are intelligent enough to be able to talk about stuff other than music.



on the school issue we're lucky enough to have a great education system, even the deprived areas are ok, and my daughter is lucky enough to have grand parents that want to pay for her to go to a really good school,which is fine by me!!!!



hmmmmm think thas me all done.....but remember............





ILL BE BACK 8)



ARNIE FOR GOVENER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hmm. I have some bones to pick with the gov. Gray Davis - yet tend to feel at the same time he was strong armed into doing some of the things he did. I don't think it all was a cast right winged conspiracy like he claimed a month ago, but I do think he did have his hands tied. And his latest political move involving drivers licenses for illegal immigrants... done out of sheer desperation imo. Now with the recall we've got everyone from Larry Flynt (he's still on, isn't he?) to Gary Coleman to... you know. nearly a hundred others but all we're hearing about are the celebrities, which is really confusing because this distracts the public from seeking people who may be more up to the job. This is the farthest thing the public needs. California's got real issues here, and I think people are too caught up in which celebrity is running rather than focusing on who really is the right man/woman for the job. We've got a high rate of unemployment, a high cost of living/inflated costs all around, floudering public schools - all this while people are still living and spending on credit like it's 1999. All this in the wake of an entire state about to go bankrupt... I can't say whether or not someone like Arnie is up for the job, he's had his eye on politics for a long time now so his running is really no surprise. Where he stands on a lot of popular issues regarding gay marriage, abortion, etc. is very moderate but he still hasn't come out and given a decent proposal for any kind of long term economic growth package which will benefit all Californians. Fence politics. This fence sitting has irritated both the right and the left - then again, sitting on the fence - or being moderate - means compromise, usually, and perhaps that is what's needed to right (or left, ;) ) some of the wrongs that's put California in the position its in.



As of yet, I am unsure of who I will be voting for. I do like Cruz Bustamantes platform, but I am still undecided right now.



chem'd up, I agree that $87b would go a long long way to benefit other causes that have a possible good outcome that would benefit all mankind. If anything because as far as AIDS, world debt and hunger are concerned.. well, no country has ever been truly philanthropic so maybe we're just being too optimisitic or idealistic or whatever. It's very hard to see a light at the end of this tunnel in regards to Iraq. And if there is any good possible outcome in the future, for all parties involved, god willing we'll live long enough to see it.



OK so maybe I wasn't done.

i have a cure for aids. WEAR A FUCKIN CONDOM!!! thats cheap AND affective, as for Bush, he sure acts stupid sometimes and IM an american, but its not like they payed straight up cash for this stuff, they dont just donate MONEY to pay for these weapons, and another thing, how many people are gonna want some guy to spend money of something for other countries like "world debt". He shouldve done something about OUR country and stopped worrying about those other countries who cant protect themselves(like Canada, damn canadians and your only export, beer) but Bush has done somethings for this country, i cant name any, but he's done things like...like...ummm...ill get back to you on that one ;)

LOL - my friend Alex complains about the price of condoms. ;)

Also, I don't want to hear anyone say that Canada can't defend themselves; we've won over 90% of all wars we've fought and beat the U.S everytime we fought 'em. Ah, whatever. its all in good humour.