What kind of chocolate. Can't beat a Walnut Whip, i'm getting sweaty just thinking about it

I had to make do with Hershey's. :P But hey, to a woman there's times when it doesn't make a difference what kind of chocolate it is! Although Hershey's hardly resembles chocolate.



The little Indian/British market where I get my ooey gooey Cadbury's from wasn't open last night when I was fiending.

Hehe Cadburys rock! At least when u'r broke n can't afford all the fancy shiznat.;)



Bout the album, finally came out in my third world country yesterday, and I must admit it was pretty much a turn off the first listen. That?s the problem with worshipping and following a band. U'r always like WTF (most of the times) when u hear something new they'r tryin to do. On first listen last night, I actually didn't even like Spitfire much, except for Juliette's TRIPPY SEXY vocal sample the song starts with. To anyone who uses Reason, U could see exactly where Liam was coming from on this disc. It's like a genius kid suddenly discoverin the joys of junkin all his hardware n freaking out with Reason. It actually sounds like he wrote most of the structures and layers and ideas in one night. It's the best Reason demo/ tutorial anyone could ask for, but then it certainly doesn't stop at that.

Today morning, I changed my perspective totally around, tried to forget whatever he's done in the past and hear it again without any prejudice. Strange, but it did sound much better already. Think it'll grow on me, and no, I'm not gonna form an opinion on the album for at least another 10 days. It needs that much time to sink in. For it's certainly not conventional prodigy though there are streaks of punky funky liam all over.. Hardhitting as ever. At least he's trying. But I just could not find that HUGE punch in the face of a Jilted or a FOTL.. Or the insane genius grooves and darkness of my fav Prodigy.. the genius genius Experience. This one sure doesn't send my brain to another dimension. Not yet anyway.



I'll reserve further comments till a week. There was a time when I worshipped the Prodigy almost as much as the Chems, but I think time has shown what a different level the Chems are. They are the fuckin' Einsteins of music. They'r not human, period. Liam on the other hand is still just havin fun. ;)

Btw, I LOVED his version of Nirvana's Love Buzz. I just hope this album grows and has staying power. I have doubts right now, but I'm not givin up on Mr. Howlett yet. He sure has the brains to fuck ours'. I really wish he'd spent some more time with this album. It's almost like he wrote the whole thing on Reason in one sitting. Except for a few samples, the rest just don't have that hard hitting machine punch Liam was so famous for. They'r way more software to me. Lets see how it goes over the weekend. Will be back. :)

Ok, can I just clear this whole Reason thing up. Liam said he wrote the tracks in Reason, and THEN brought them into Protools and used real synths and hardware to record the track. He wrote the song in Reason, but produced the sound with real hardware. It's really easy to go "yeah well he used Reason so it's shit" because Reason is regarded in a similar way as Fruity Loops. I personally hate software synths, cause most of them sound like shit (Reason does nasty things to samples when you load them in, and the synths all sound pretty thin to me). But just cause he came up with ideas for songs using software doesn't mean it's going to sound like software, just like if he's using a Roland W30, pen and paper or Logic Audio (what the chems use) doesn't mean it's going to sound a certain way. Yeah, if he used Reason to write AND produce the tracks then it'd sound like Reason. But he didn't. You can even hear different synths in songs (like a Prophet 5 in Girls doing a synth line between sections), and you can't even record audio into reason (you have to record it externally then bring it in as a wav or aiff).



I guess the point of this rant is to say put the Reason thing out of your head and listen to the album objectively. What stopped me from liking the album for a while was that I kept comparing it to FOTL. Listen to it a couple of times like it's his first album and you can respect where he's coming from, and hear it in itself, not compared to something else. I know I had to do this with 'Come With Us' when it was released, and now it's one of my all time fave albums...

I totally agree with every word up there. Too much work no time to post right now, but all i was trying to say is the songwriting and the sounds etc are very very Reason! Of course he didn't produce it thru Reason. Even as an amateur I can't dream of producing thru Reason. But I really doubt him really using too many hardware synths this time.. it lacks that hardware sound somehow. Will come back once I hear it more. Have heard it just twice till now. THE TWEEKEND STARTS HERE!! :D

All right, here's my honest assessment/opinion of Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. I got my copy yesterday and gave it a listen today.



When I heard it a few weeks ago at work, it sounded really kick ass. Actually, a lot of things sound better at work to me, it has to be the high stim environment in which I work - then I get the record home and listen to it on my own time and my mind changes. But now, I don't know... I really don't know if I like this record even enough to let it grow on me. That makes me sad and disappointed. I am so glad I didn't have to spend the money on it. Thank god for promos.



I realized for the first time today, that Spitfire, though I'm sure would make an excellent song for a video game or tune to drive on a deserted road to, is far too long. It never ends. I stand by my previous statements that Spitfire sets the tone of the whole record. It is exhausting to listen to all the way through. Memphis Bells... don't like that broken-toy-piano type sound, it's grating. Girls is a standout track and the song with Juliette Lewis surprised me in a good way considering her efforts with her own band have been nothing more than mediocre.



By the second half of the record approached, I was exhausted. I don't know if this is a good thing - I suppose I am used to being spoiled by artists whose records have peaks and valleys, high points and low points, and allow some breathing room in the mix. Maybe I'm mellowing with age. This record is a migraine inducing head pounder straight through to the end and the screaming really gets on my nerves.



The overly loud repetitiveness and the break downs aren't a whole lot to write home about. There is no depth to the layers within the music and the production, while decent to better than a lot of shit I hear, manages to be bombastic.



I'm sure if I heard this record back when I was listening to nothing but industrial music 9 years ago, it would've been a boot stomper for sure. But maybe I'm just mellowing with age and expect more of artists who take 7 year hiatuses. AONO sounds like it's trying so very hard to be angry, it lacks innovation and soul, and quite frankly it seems as though it's trying to outgun (no pun intended) Fat of the Land... if that can at all be possible. I can't say I've been waiting with bated breath for this record and I'm not a massive fan, but I've enjoyed Prodigy in the past and hoped the long wait would be worth it.



To sum up: I know there's a lot of Prodigy fans here and I don't want to offend anyone with my opinionated ramblings. I know how important and personal music can be. So if I did, I'm sorry.



But to the rest who are curious and unsure of whether or not this would be a good purchase, I highly advise you borrow a copy from a friend or somehow in some way give this a good solid listening before purchasing. At face value, it seems like a dirty slick record that would be good driving music, but I think I'm gonna take this back to work and see if a coworker can get some good use out of it.

man I wana listen to this album.

Their new webiste is looking amazing, here's a song from the new sitehttp://www.theprodig...spacehopper.mp3

I think the new album rocks. You know it took me a little while to really get into it, but after a few repeat plays it really grew on me. Interested to hear how it sounds live.



Also, if anyone hasn't seen the cool new Prodigy media player, check it out, it's interactive:



http://www.hyfntrak....rodigy/AFF8063/

I wanna know what the diehard fans of Prodigy think of the album. Personally i think it has it's highs and lowes > i would give it a 8/10

I visited the forum today, I noticed a lot of negativity which is a shame.

I also posted this, tell me what you think, so far the people i've spoken to agree with me, i've discovered something amazing, like Christopher Columbus, your kids will be learning about me in their history class...maybe

http://212.67.202.86...opic.php?t=1785

That's too bad that so many Prodigy fans are really slagging off the new record.



For me (a mild Prod fan who's enjoyed the music in the past) to say I didn't care for the new record is one thing. It's another to see people who are big enough fans to join their messageboard, and post negative comment after comment after comment and slagging off the band members/Prodigy in general. I just skimmed through some of the threads and yes, there's a lot of hostility there - the horse is beaten!



iggy, they still show Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoons here in the States. (and I saw the first movie in the theater... under somewhat similiar inebriated circumstances you experienced with the Turtles) I can't bear to watch the cartoons, I just feel so cheesy inside and my son's not into them - so I have no idea about the comparisons you drew. ;)

One more thing I forgot to add but realized the edit button will never work on this site...



Maybe the Prodigy fans will warm up to the new record like a lot of people did with Come With Us, or Charlatans "Wonderland." I think out of anyone, the die hards would give Prodigy the benefit of the doubt and grant a few more listens and let the record grow on them.



I hope so - just for the band's sake. I gotta hand it to Liam who's vowed to start fresh from the beginning, like... sort of reinvent himself with AONO. He's taking a big chance that a lot of artists aren't willing to take.

I really don't think he's re-inventin or anything like that. This record is a bunch of crap coming from a genius who gave us those last 3 records. I spun it a few times the first few times, and have given up after that. Totally agree with what whirly said. It's lacks soul. No depth. Hardly any layers.. hardly any of the genius keys of experience, hardly and crazy grooves like experience or the latter stuff. It still sounds like a very amateur one night effort from someone whose tryin to prepare a Reason demo.

I don't think I can even spin it enough to give it a chance to grow on me or any such thing. I don't mind hearin this record if someone's playin it once in a while, but it's nowhere close to what Liam was, and is capable of. To me, he's sadly lost the plot. He's taken his fans for a frikkin ride.

Spun it again over the weekend... really sad but this album really does suck overall.

It's got a few decent covers.. the thriller thing, the lovebuzz song towards the end.. also a couple of other songs that i can spin a few times a year.. i like medusa's path a bit.. but most of the rest is crap. It's just another average record. Nothing prodigal.

Hmm, I've listened to album a bit more now, I quite like it, but there is some duff songs on there. Rough ratings (relative to the album):



Spitfire: 4/5

Girls: 5/5

Memphis Bells: 5/5

Get up get off: 2/5

Hotride: 3/5

Wake up call: 3/5

Medusa's path: 2/5

Phoenix: 1/5

You'll be under my wheels: 4/5

The way it is: 4/5

Shoot down: 2/5

I was down the gym today, getting naked in the mens changing room and a 70's disco track came on that had an effect very simular to Girls by the prodigy. Anybody know what it is?

what about More Girls ??? 5/5 X-D

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