Cardinal Francis Arinze, who's considered a possible successor to Pope John Paul II, has denied Jesus is the only way to heaven. In a recent interview the pope's spirited 66 year-old deputy for outreach to other religions was asked, "So was Jesus wrong when he said he was the way, the truth and the life?" Arinze responed, "If a person were to push what you said a little further and say that if you're not a Christian you're not going to heaven, we'd regard that person as a fundamentalist...and theologically wrong. I met in Pakistan a Muslim. He had a wonderful concept of the Koran. We were like two twins that had known one another from birth. And I was in admiration of this man's wisdom. I think that man will go to heaven. There was a Buddhist in Kyoto, in Japan. This man, a good man, open, listening, humble--I was amazed. I listened to his works of wisdom and said to myself, 'The grace of God is working in this man." The interviewer then repeated the question, "So you can still get to heaven without accepting Jesus?" "Expressly, yes [he laughs with the audience]." (Dallas Morning News, 3/20/99)
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OT: May The higher Power be with him
#41
Posted 06 April 2005 - 6:55 PM
i hope they go with the African guy as the new pope.......he sounds like an open minded individual....that is what the world needs. A more open minded religious icon. check it:
#42
Posted 06 April 2005 - 9:14 PM
equinoxe24If You said:
If only it were that easy. As thesouphead mentioned, I can't buy beer on Sunday b/c of Christianity. If I lived in Saudi Arabia, I couldn't buy beer anytime b/c of Islam. Now, beer isn't exactly a reason to discontinue all religions. If they outlawed premarital sex, that would be a different matter altogether..... Oh wait, damn.....
Seriously, why on earth would anyone stop (moderately) indulging in things that make them happy? Religious institutions (no matter the religion, although I think Western religions are worse) seem to seek a monopoly on misery. I have nothing against being religious, but religious people need to do it on their own time, in their own space. If I want to forsake my eternal salvation, let me snort coke out of the asscrack of an underage Thai hooker. The only thing getting hurt is my deviated septum (and the underage Thai hooker, but that's another story.).
And that's my overgeneralized, underthought rant of
Seriously, why on earth would anyone stop (moderately) indulging in things that make them happy? Religious institutions (no matter the religion, although I think Western religions are worse) seem to seek a monopoly on misery. I have nothing against being religious, but religious people need to do it on their own time, in their own space. If I want to forsake my eternal salvation, let me snort coke out of the asscrack of an underage Thai hooker. The only thing getting hurt is my deviated septum (and the underage Thai hooker, but that's another story.).
And that's my overgeneralized, underthought rant of
If only it were that easy. As thesouphead mentioned, I can't buy beer on Sunday b/c of Christianity. If I lived in Saudi Arabia, I couldn't buy beer anytime b/c of Islam. Now, beer isn't exactly a reason to discontinue all religions. If they outlawed premarital sex, that would be a different matter altogether..... Oh wait, damn.....
Seriously, why on earth would anyone stop (moderately) indulging in things that make them happy? Religious institutions (no matter the religion, although I think Western religions are worse) seem to seek a monopoly on misery. I have nothing against being religious, but religious people need to do it on their own time, in their own space. If I want to forsake my eternal salvation, let me snort coke out of the asscrack of an underage Thai hooker. The only thing getting hurt is my deviated septum (and the underage Thai hooker, but that's another story.).
And that's my overgeneralized, underthought rant of the day.
#44
Posted 07 April 2005 - 4:34 AM
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
Darkstarexodus Escribi�:
Now, beer isn't exactly a reason to discontinue all religions.
BLASPHEMER![/b]
Yeah, you're right. But I didn't want to risk offending any teetotallers (WTF kind of word is that, anyway?).
You're talking to a guy who has tried 137 types of beer since August 2004 (and is geeky enough to keep track of them on a spreadsheet... hard to remember what beer to drink when you're already drunk!). Trust me, beer is worth most sacrifices. If religion has to go, religion has to go.
#45
Posted 07 April 2005 - 6:14 AM
Darkstarexodus Escribi�:
toomuch'stash Escribi�:
Darkstarexodus Escribi�:
Now, beer isn't exactly a reason to discontinue all religions.
BLASPHEMER![/b]
Yeah, you're right. But I didn't want to risk offending any teetotallers (WTF kind of word is that, anyway?).
You're talking to a guy who has tried 137 types of beer since August 2004 (and is geeky enough to keep track of them on a spreadsheet... hard to remember what beer to drink when you're already drunk!). Trust me, beer is worth most sacrifices. If religion has to go, religion has to go.
Hey, monks drink beer so it must be OK!!!
So, what's your favorite beer? We're gonna have to stock up for Coachella!
I like good ales and hearty stouts, but I prefer a nice lambic. The Belgians got it right! It sounds girlie but I like a frambroise or a peche lambic. They have a nice texture and finish and the perfect bubbly fizz that reminds me of champagne. I also tried a banana lambic once and it may sound gross, but it was damn tasty. Next to impossible to find, though.
be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle
#47
Posted 07 April 2005 - 3:49 PM
best thread ever!! starts off as a respect to the pope, mutates into an all out funny (justified)assault on backward christian beliefs, some good rhetoric and discussion, ends up as a beer appreciation thread. Oh, for the record, my fav are: 1Corona, 2Tiger, 3Heineken.
see u guys in hell..
see u guys in hell..
#50
Posted 07 April 2005 - 6:34 PM
Hard to say what my favourites are, they really change quite often. Right now I've been more budget-conscious, so I've been drinking decent domestic beers lately. Usually, anything Belgian will suffice, regardless of style. Pilsner Urquell (Czech), Leffe Blonde (Belgian), Tuborg (Denmark), Niksicko Gold (Serbia), Newcastle (England) are among the consistent favourites. Any Belgian abbey beer and most German wheat beers will do quite well though.
Honestly, after over 60 consecutive hours on the bus, you can put MGD in front of me and I won't complain too much.
Honestly, after over 60 consecutive hours on the bus, you can put MGD in front of me and I won't complain too much.
#53 toomuchstash
Posted 07 April 2005 - 7:27 PM
Jeanie Escribi�:
Funny how this thread gor fro, the POPE to BEER.
Hmz
Back in the middle ages, no one knew why beer fermented. They didn't know what yeast was. They just knew it worked. Their name for it was 'God is good', or whatever the belgian equivalent of that is...