This thread has nothing to do with the Chemical Brothers but i think its interesting.



This evening in the pub me and my mates were talking about unexplained weird things such as the Loch Ness monster and Yeti's. Can anyone give and explanation or there thoughts on if these exists?



My thoughts.......



Lock Ness Monster: Nice story and would be cool if it was true. Possible a massive congar eel that a few people have spotted or a large sea creature that came to far inland and then surived the ice age. However how would the species live in Loch Ness without a large group of them, there is also evidence that it was a massive glacier for long periods of time. Maybe a big tourism stunt just for the cash.



Yeti: A really ugly fucker or a large freak polar bear or a dude with big boots on hence the big foot prints.



Big foot: Simular to Yeti, possibly a reject of society or just something invenjted for harry and the hendersons.



UFO's/Aliens: There def something out there, the universe is so so big we would be silly to think that theres no other life out there. Maybe they are more advanced than us. UFO's could be down to a number of factors but i feel mainly reflecting lights. During the cold war the Americans were rumored to be developeing there own flying saurces as use for spying.



What do you think guys, im not just thinking about animals/creatures what about heaven/hell or the Bermuda triangle? Its all very strange 8)

- Aliens definitely exist. I hope they find living organisms in the ice on Mars to prove it. All those UFO sightings around the world... And what's happening in Area 51? I betcha they are probably dissecting aliens right now.

- Bigfoot? Nope. That one is a hoax. I remember a program on the discovery channel that had two guys admitting they did it and explaining how. I believed it.

- Yeti. Dunno, could be a large ape that got used to the barren landscape. It's not the first time animals did it. It's called evolution.

- Illegal Aliens: that's something entirely different!

Big Foot- Nah

Aliens- Of course

Loch Ness Monster- 50/50 chance, who knows

Yeti- I dunnow

I love talking about random shit bordering on the philosophical when I've had a few drinks! ;)



Big Foot - I think it's a hoax.



Yeti - Hmm. I don't know enough about it to make a comment.



Loch Ness Monster - nice legend, it rakes in some tourism (my parents even went to Loch Ness) and it's something I think we'd all like to be true. Just because it's so out of the ordinary. I think people claiming to have seen it wanted so desperately for the monster to appear. If you believe something enough, if you look hard enough for whatever it is, I think you will find it, your eyes will see it - but proving it is another thing. I've seen a few programs that discredited the creature as well as the famous photo. There were even scientists who went out there with sonar and detected nothing of the size of the Loch Ness Monster. And also, after all this time, don't you think more photos (that weren't doctored, would've come out?



Extraterrestrials - the truth is out there... in the Twilight Zone. ;) Area 51 is a strange strange place. Even today it's not like you can just walk on in and have a look around. The logical side of me thinks the whole alien thing is little more than a front for top secret American government goings on. If you think about the history of Area 51, it really didn't exist until the Cold War. The U.S. during the Cold War, especially in the beginning when we were exploring space, fearing nuclear attacks from the Soviets... it was interesting times. Strange flashes of light reported near the area have turned out to be nothing more that natural atmospheric disturbances - think Aurora Lights and such. Or those lights could've been nuclear testing, that would make sense. On the other hand there's places in Peru where there's these huge, scientist baffling ground "drawings" or Nazca lines, are only visible from the air, and nobody knows why they are there or what they mean except there's theories they are ancient signals to the gods or perhaps beyond.



And then to throw something else out there. How about ghosts, poltergeists, and the rest of that stuff in the spirit world that cannot accurately be explained, but must be experienced in order to be believed.



It's easy to be logical, it's become easy to have scientific proof of why things are. But it takes imagination or something even a life altering experience to believe in these sorts of things. But I think the earth will be forever filled with such oddities that we cannot explain through science. I'm the type of person who really likes to have answers, but there are some things that are best left unexplained and up to our imaginations. Keeps life interesting and it's good for conversation.



Wow, I could use a drink now.

whirlygirl Escribi�:

And then to throw something else out there. How about ghosts, poltergeists, and the rest of that stuff in the spirit world that cannot accurately be explained, but must be experienced in order to be believed.

That was a massive response whirly, thank you. As you have pointed out theres alot more that can be thrown in such as ghosts.



I think ghosts and sprits do exist. If they do it can explain alot of strange happenings. I have never seen one but i have felt a pressence when in old buildings. Alot of ghosts are harmless and just like having a laugh.



One think thats happened with unexplained things is people bullshitting just to make money.

What kind of pub talk is that! My conversations usually involve the folling subjects:

-> The greatness of alcohol

-> The greatness of our pub

-> What we are going to drink

-> School days

-> Ladies



I think that's all you need. Anything more intelectual than that will get you thrown out!

iguanapunk Escribi�:

What kind of pub talk is that! My conversations usually involve the folling subjects:

-> The greatness of alcohol

-> The greatness of our pub

-> What we are going to drink

-> School days

-> Ladies



I think that's all you need. Anything more intelectual than that will get you thrown out!

don't worry iggy we mentioned all of them, we were talking alot about brixton 19th aswell.



What do you guys think about ghosts?

ACIDCHILDREN, have ever seen Most Haunted on TV? I'm still trying to work out if it is all real or a hoax.



I believe in ghosts but am not always convinced the alleged beings on this programme actually exist.

mc marsh Escribi�:

ACIDCHILDREN, have ever seen Most Haunted on TV? I'm still trying to work out if it is all real or a hoax.



I believe in ghosts but am not always convinced the alleged beings on this programme actually exist.

Was that repeated on channel 4 recentally when they did the thing when they speak to spirits? Is so yes i didnt think it was real.

iguanapunk Escribi�:

What kind of pub talk is that! My conversations usually involve the folling subjects:

-> The greatness of alcohol

-> The greatness of our pub

-> What we are going to drink

-> School days

-> Ladies



I think that's all you need. Anything more intelectual than that will get you thrown out!

X-D How men are different than ladies. When ladies talk about men in public places, it's usually done in the toilets out of earshot! That's why they all go in large groups, see. ;)

whirlygirl Escribi�:

It's usually done in the toilets out of earshot! That's why they all go in large groups, see. ;)

And there's me thinking it's because you have big lesbian orgies in the toilets, you've shattered a life long dream of mine Whirly *shakes head*

X-D Aww. Sorry iggy.



So anyway, onto the spirit world.



I feel strange for admitting this here, but yes I believe in that weird, other dimension that makes for good campfire stories. I've been subjected to some unexplainable weirdness over the years that's hard to explain, without coming across as a loon. I also think we have a lot more intuition than we give ourselves credit for, but as logical thinking and rational human beings, we're sometimes in conflict with ourselves when we experience something that seems to be so true in our gut, yet our brains are telling us otherwise. Maybe not flat out seeing ghosts floating around in hallways but something as simple as getting a strange feeling or vibe off a place and you don't know why. You know, when your gut is telling you something and your logical brain is going, "wait a minute, that's not possible, how can that be?"

Uh... I'm quite surprised, because a c�ouple years ago, I'definately read somwhere (and I mean in several places) that the loch ness monster was a little hoax by a bored guy thatr went out of control and the guy just recently admitted it.



But maybe this was a howax about it being a hoax, and so it is not, but I really think it is a hoax (unless it is some double hoax thingie. then maybe we could start a hoax about the hoax about the hoax?)



Well anyway.



As far as aliens are concerned, it is statistically very likely that there are somebody out there, but physically (I mean, considering Einstein relativity theory) very unlikely that they have the technology to reach us.



On the other hand, expecting a communication from aliens via electromagnitic waves is probably just as ethnocentric as looking for an italian restaurant around Alpha Centauri.



IMO, consciousness could arise as long as you have a way to stock, organise and exchange information, so one could imagine "conscious" gas clouds or nebulas or planet cores or whatever. "Life" as we know it is probably just a tiny sample of a physical support of information and consciousness.



I've got another interesting theory : statistically, it is porbable that there are aliens somewhere in the universe. statistically, it could be possible that their civilisation started really earlier than ours (planet "ready" sooner, faster evolution), so the only reason such civilisation didn't reach us by one way or another, (beside, the obvious fact that light or waves we recieve from outer space are actually million years old) is that :



-statistically, every civilisation blows itself up before they have the technology for space travel/communication



I mean, space travel or communication involves manipulating a lot of energy, which means you cannot invent such thing without the technological evolution also involving weapons (think that our space rockets are based on the nazi V2 missile...), so basically, before they manage to evolve such technology, they just blow themselves up with some big war.



Or maybe the time needed to achieve suche technological evolution is too long, regarding that geological crisis (such as the one kiling all the dinosaurs) happens statistically every XX millions years.

TryptaJunk Escribi�:

Uh... I'm quite surprised, because a c�ouple years ago, I'definately read somwhere (and I mean in several places) that the loch ness monster was a little hoax by a bored guy thatr went out of control and the guy just recently admitted it.



But maybe this was a howax about it being a hoax, and so it is not, but I really think it is a hoax (unless it is some double hoax thingie. then maybe we could start a hoax about the hoax about the hoax?)

I thought that the story of the monster went back hundreads of years :-? There is evidence however that photos that were considered to be real at one point where hoax's. I love the way you used 'hoax' so much ;-)

If there is a loch ness monster it'll eventually die and then it will go the same way as all fish and float to the top. Simple solution.

I'll tell you one thing that's strange. When the aliens abduct Billy-Bob from his Arkansas trailer and bring him back, there's always an empty bottle of Jack Daneils next to him and hours that he can't account for.



Explain that one!

oh yes this topic rocks !! i love the unexplain things talk more talk more.!!!



i�m recently watching TAKEN on fox and is good i also love the X-Files. and the T.zone

The Mongoose of Death Escribi�:

If there is a loch ness monster it'll eventually die and then it will go the same way as all fish and float to the top. Simple solution.

Unless it is like a turle and comes inland during certain seasons of the year, so it could be dead as seen. The Loch leads to the sea so it could of just been a creature that swam in there then out again.

robot.mx Escribi�:

oh yes this topic rocks !! i love the unexplain things talk more talk more.!!!



i�m recently watching TAKEN on fox and is good i also love the X-Files. and the T.zone

Im glad you like this topic mx :)

that most haunted show is a complete utter toss. they pretend that there ghosts and the fact that they want to hear something so any noise means a spirt is there. bloody hate that show

TryptaJunk Escribi�:

-statistically, every civilisation blows itself up before they have the technology for space travel/communication

That's an awesome statement.