Aw, thanks Jeans. You're the best. :)

And it's good that you haven't -completely- said never. ;-) That would just be no fun.

Recovery time does get longer, the older you get.

It's also easier to over-do it if you're trying to keep up with your younger self. I'm not 24 anymore and my body isn't what it used to be.

I love a good time and I'm usually OK at self moderating, but I don't like losing control and it's come to that a few times which can be embarrassing. Jeanie has heard me on those late-night/early morning transatlantic calls where I am a complete moron teetering on the edge of losing control, and can barely talk. I've also not picked up a phone or got on the line to talk because I was not in a state I'd want to be remembered by. And I hate that cracked out feeling on the comedown - it affects not just your mood but can affect your relationships and it's not good to be doing that all the time. Not to mention the devastating effects it can have on your health... or how drugs can exasperate a pre-existing condition. Moderation, and having at least 1 person in the party be somewhat of a reality man to keep everyone in line and from overdoing it. Or something.

I think the worst drug I've ever bared witness to first hand is meth. What a horrible, horrible drug with a long quick drop on the downward spiral. That, and GHB is really really bad (I've gone into that here before).

I don't lose control practically ever which is why I can withstand doing a fair bit. The only things that ever put me to a point where I warn ppl ahead of time that I might act a bit embarrassing are DXM and ketamine and I only do those at friend's appartments, not while out.

I've been clubbing on acid (right after the peak, on my first time trying it) and I've never had a bad trip of mushrooms.

I don't get fucked up off M's, coke, or booze (although the latter will eventually make me blackout before it will make me sick... but I don't drink to anywhere near that level anymore).

Compared to the majority of my friends I hold my booze and drugs extraordinarily well and am the "reality" person even when I'm on 8 or 9 caps.

It just gets a bit boring and tiring after a while which is when I take a break. Like how I'll sometimes not listen to the Chems (or ) for a few months and then come back with fresh ears.

Spend 3 years doing meth every single weekend, start friday night, go to sleep sunday, and repeat, for three years.

Basicly, meth makes every other drug, including crack cocaine, feel like drinking a Redbull too fast. If you can maintain a casual habit like that to one of the most addictive drugs in the world, then quite cold turkey, you have my permission to take as many other kinds of drugs as often as you want. I swear, a gram of Prince Charlie and I can go to sleep 2 and a half hours later. It's like weak tea compared to crystal.

I suppose this is where we part paths on the issue. So if a candy addict weighs in at 400 lbs, loses weight, they'd then "have permission" to go and stuff their pie holes non-stop with greasy junk food because it's not as bad as devouring pure sugar?

I don't see how that logic applies to everyone.

no no no, if a person weighs 400 pounds because all they consume is 12 pounds of pure pork fat every day, then they stop and lose the weight, they're allowed to have as many In-N-Out burgers as they want, because they've learned their limitations.

Basicly, if you can control a meth habit for 3 years, not end up dead, in jail, bald or with teeth missing, there's no other substance out there that can control you.

But you're right, that logic, does NOT apply to everyone. I'm not everyone. I shouldn't have suggested doing the things I've done, to ANYONE, because, frankly, no one's as smart as I am (at least no one I've ever met) when it comes to the subject of drugs. The fact that I'm even capable typing this (at 90wpm, btw) after all the things I've put my central nervous system through proves that.

heh, although I've never done meth (though based on my suspicions about the caps I popped last weekend, that remains to be seen... regular supplier is in Cuba right now), I can relate in terms of coke. In the winter/spring, I would be fast asleep within a half-hour of my last line. It was guaranteed, in fact. Once I wasn't high anymore, I slept. Period. Or ate. My nose was never really jacked and I never got all that egocentric while on it either. It agreed with me rather well. Doesn't agree with the wallet though, which is why I stopped.

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T-minus 1 hour to shroomery and utter fuckwittery. Grabbed an ounce of mush yesterday. Going to have fun tonight on my own. Need to go rent a trippy movie (A Scanner Darkly maybe?), buy a pack of smokes, and pick up some pot.

Tomorrow is Canada Day so I have the day off (going to the beach), the weather is beautiful out (+29 C and sunny), and there's a lot of nice bike paths and riverbanks for me to go walking on tonight. Time to commune with nature on the astral plane. :)

Can't wait to watch the sun go down.

fuck finally found the thread. yeh treated to the max atm. just fanboyed all over milco2forum. but yeh finally get to make a proper appearance in this this thread after taking care of my good mates after a night out. always last man standing i am. but with free internet access and plenty of time to correct spelling mistakes. love is all.

Level of drunk: sufficient.

Description of tonight: fun.

Locations: Cocktail party at a friend's place, then over to the Castro for more drinks and a chill vibe. It's surprising to have lived in SF for more than three years and not to have gone to a gay bar...

Must make an appearance here, I guess. Completely deserving of this thread, well before the night began in earnest I suppose.

HALLO peeps!

was clean for the last one year - then acid every weekend ( a few candy flips) for the last 3 months continusly - now on a break again since the last 20 days - still got stamps n pills lying somewhere in my car, but i'm taking another year's break. the last 3 months were gorgeous.

alcohol - totally off for almost 6 months now, except a bottle of wine here n there, gonna open one tonight - got nice chicken curry cooking on the stove.

p.s. - did some coke also over the last few months, n while regular cokeheads i know were tripping their balls off, it somehow just was too mild a feel good for me, hence decided coke n me don't go together. i've never had the comedowns problem either - never on heavy doses of e also, the only problem i find with e is i can't stop till i finish all of em.

My drug experiences have been in complete moderation. There was one time where I did E twice in a 45 day time span, but other than that it's been about twice a year for the past three years. I haven't taken anything else while doing E, with the exception of my first time where I had downed a bunch of vodka and Red Bull. I wasn't the smartest 21 year-old...

When the fuck did I post in this thread the other night? My god I made some sloppy nonsensical Facebook posts near 7 AM and then went to a house party AFTER that.....

Ugh... Not house. Must avoid typing under the influence.

haha, good night though, if more than a little out of hand.

Felt this one deserved a bump.

Ketamine is fun. I bought more of it this week than was prudent. That is all.

That's one I'd like to try. Not the easiest thing to come by...

Yeah, that's why I ended up buying three grams...

It's so so interesting to do. Almost impossible to describe to someone who's never done it.

I'd like to just hoover up a half a gram and lay back in the K-Hole.

Wait, no I wouldn't. I keep forgetting that my subconscious is a dark place that looks like it was carved from obsidian.